yeah with that show, I'm sure it took a while
Posted 14 May 2012 - 02:44 PM (#21)
yeah with that show, I'm sure it took a while
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Posted 14 May 2012 - 05:12 PM (#22)
Posted 14 May 2012 - 05:22 PM (#23)
I don't believe since the inception of DCI this has happened. I guess it came close with Madison in 1976(?).
I dont think we can really compare the current DCI to the past drum corps in this regard.
Back when it was "latin jazz song, stop. Other latin jazz song, stop. Drum solo, stop, latin jazz closer, stop", overcoming large gaps simply with better execution was possible.
In the current incarnation of drum corps, its a lot harder to recover from a bad design or from a design thats not intended to win in the first place. In other words, A corps that knows they are going to place in a certain range stays very self aware, and design a program appropriate for their program, and no matter how well its performed, the criteria alone would keep it from the top of the pack. Or if a design team simply "Sh**s the bed" on their design effort, they can tweak all day and night and make it BETTER, but still not enough to climb from 11th, to 8th, to 5th, to 1st.
Posted 14 May 2012 - 07:10 PM (#24)
In 1987, the Garfield Cadets started out below Spirit Of Atlanta (who placed 10th that year) and.......they ended up WINNING. Want to see an example? Here is an early show where Spirit of Atlanta THREE POINTED them.
Sunday June 28, 1987
West Chester PADCEPositionCorpsScore
1Spirit of Atlanta 77.000
2Garfield Cadets 74.900
3Suncoast Sound 70.300
4Dutch Boy 63.400
5Florida Wave 62.200
7Malden Diplomats 47.200
8St. Francis Xavier Sancians 39.800
And then even as late as July 7th, Spirit was still beating them with Suncoast Sound trailing them...
Tuesday July 7, 1987
1Spirit of Atlanta 80.100
2Garfield Cadets 79.900
3Suncoast Sound 76.300
4Florida Wave 65.600
And THEN....even once the Cadets DID finally pull ahead of them....only a FEW DAYS BEFORE FINALS...Spirit was STILL trailing the Cadets...
Sunday August 9, 1987
1Garfield Cadets 91.600
2Spirit of Atlanta 90.500
3Sky Ryders 84.700
4Dutch Boy 79.500
And then for the final results...
Saturday August 15, 1987
Madison WIDCI World ChampionshipsSTADIUM: Camp Randall Stadium - University of WisconsinDCIPositionCorpsScore
1Garfield Cadets 97.900
2Santa Clara Vanguard 97.800
4Blue Devils 94.400
5Phantom Regiment 94.300
6Madison Scouts 90.400
7Star of Indiana 90.000
7Velvet Knights 90.000
9Suncoast Sound 88.800
10Spirit of Atlanta 87.600
12Sky Ryders 81.900
I don't know what you consider "starting out slow"...but to start the seaon in the area of 10th place and then win it all, I'd say that is pretty remarkable. You can go to the following link for more examples.... http://corpsreps.com...orpstype=Junior
Accept the score from July 7th is wrong. According to Fromthepressbox, Boston scored the 79.9 to SOA's 80.1 on July 7th in Orlando. Also, other than the early season show on June 28th, where else did SOA beat the Cadets that summer? By the way, they must have an off night brass show that evening. Florida Wave beat them by almost a point in brass GE.
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Posted 14 May 2012 - 08:01 PM (#26)
Great shows, great performances, but I believe there was better execution by other corps those years.
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Posted 14 May 2012 - 08:23 PM (#27)
Spirit also beat Garfield July 1 in Cary, NC (fromthepressbox has this one reversed) and July 7 in Winter Park, FL.
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Posted 14 May 2012 - 10:50 PM (#29)
I have no words for this, that won't anger the Madison Trolls that crawl out of the woodwork and make you sound like a member of Al Queda for suggesting anything bad about MS.
But, food for thought, DCI never used that finals format again after 1988, with due reason.
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