cube Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 I've been looking at some pretty complicated shows with very complicated horn books and I'm wondering what the hardest or most complicated one is. For me I'd have to say Carolina Crown 2013 or 2014. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cappybara Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 I've been looking at some pretty complicated shows with very complicated horn books and I'm wondering what the hardest or most complicated one is. For me I'd have to say Carolina Crown 2013 or 2014. I wouldn't call Crown 2013 complicated... in terms of crazy technique 2014 definitely comes to mind. I'm sure there are some Cadets books that rival that of Crown's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quad Aces Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 (edited) Carolina Crown 2012 - there's a reason there aren't too many recordings of Bertrand Moren's Dreams (the original brass band piece, that is). Edited September 29, 2014 by Quad Aces 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.E. Brigand Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 I've been looking at some pretty complicated shows with very complicated horn books and I'm wondering what the hardest or most complicated one is. For me I'd have to say Carolina Crown 2013 or 2014. What do you mean by complicated? Would unusual key signatures and chords be a part of hardest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cube Posted September 29, 2014 Author Share Posted September 29, 2014 Anything that would be considered hard to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
84BDsop Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Do yourself a big favor and go farther back than the last few years....Star of Indiana 1991 comes to mind right off..the mello book specifically.Keep in mind that a complicated book is far more than just "ramming notes." You also have to consider how the various parts weave together. 88 BD has some of those moments as well. Playing as many notes as fast as you can is difficult...but it's not necessarily complicated....the 2 terms are actually very different. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjeffeory Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 (edited) This topic comes up almost every year. I'm not going to add my opinion right now because I want to see what gets named this time. A lot of the time it boils down to 3 or four corps through out DCI history, and 2 distinct styles of arrangement camps; one is the harmonic difficulty camp and the other is the melodic difficulty camp...... There is 1 corps in the harmonic difficulty camp who plays jazz or jazz-like stuff. The other 3 corps that are mentioned a lot of the time in threads with this topic have "breathed Dah" in their histories and some brass trophies. I'm sure we can all figure out the corps. Edited September 29, 2014 by jjeffeory 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packetslave Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 93 BD had some really interesting and intricate multi-meter brass stuff going on, if you want to go back that far. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
84BDsop Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 93 BD had some really interesting and intricate multi-meter brass stuff going on, if you want to go back that far. Heck....go farther back to 27th Lancers in 82 playing Niner-Two....and not just the all-too brief clip BD did in 93. Marching one tempo while playing another...ballsy. Go forward to 2003 and Renegades playing it...watching the DM conduct with a different meter in each hand always gave me the willies. Pretty much ANY Don Ellis is going to be a complicated bear to play, especially on a first read...I don't think he knew HOW to write in 4/4! SoCal Dream was supposed to play the 82 version of Strawberry Soup. I never counted it out...I had to play by feel (and my memory of the Madison version). Same thing when I used the 83 version for my DM conducting audition...conducted the feel, not the time sig. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KVG_DC Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Heh. My H.S. freshman year we marched his Time for a Change in 9/4. (1-2, 1-2, 1-2-3, 1-2. With a drag step for the three). Fast forward to my senior year and our local rival's jazz band played an arrangement of it in 4/4 sitting down. We enjoyed the final outdoor non-competition concert that year yelling, "Yay! Now play it in 9! And march!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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