garfield Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 After having REPORTED "...continued growth..." in attendance back in September, today DCI announced that THEATER attendance recorded an eleventh year of growth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida Sun Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 If they had 49,000 in over 6 hundred moive Theaters ,that doesn't sound like that much .I know some theates had fewer that 20 -30 prople in them . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.E. Brigand Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 How much more do DCI's costs increase per each additional auditorium? These are the numbers of attendees per screen: 2004 -- 400 attendees/theatre 2005 -- 266 attendees/theatre 2006 -- 218 attendees/theatre 2007 -- 198 attendees/theatre 2008 -- 99 attendees/theatre 2009 -- 94 attendees/theatre 2010 -- 79 attendees/theatre 2011 -- 73 attendees/theatre 2012 -- 71 attendees/theatre 2013 -- 78 attendees/theatre 2014 -- 78 attendees/theatre So their average is up slightly the past two years vs. the previous two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garfield Posted November 12, 2014 Author Share Posted November 12, 2014 If they had 49,000 in over 6 hundred moive Theaters ,that doesn't sound like that much .I know some theates had fewer that 20 -30 prople in them . Umm... so they should stop? Just curious of your point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida Sun Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 well looking at the numbers you posted per thearte it looks each year gets less and less .l know where I live 5 theartes showed it 3 years ago this past year only 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garfield Posted November 12, 2014 Author Share Posted November 12, 2014 (edited) well looking at the numbers you posted per thearte it looks each year gets less and less .l know where I live 5 theartes showed it 3 years ago this past year only 3. . Edited November 12, 2014 by garfield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drumcorpsfever Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 How much more do DCI's costs increase per each additional auditorium? These are the numbers of attendees per screen: 2004 -- 400 attendees/theatre 2005 -- 266 attendees/theatre 2006 -- 218 attendees/theatre 2007 -- 198 attendees/theatre 2008 -- 99 attendees/theatre 2009 -- 94 attendees/theatre 2010 -- 79 attendees/theatre 2011 -- 73 attendees/theatre 2012 -- 71 attendees/theatre 2013 -- 78 attendees/theatre 2014 -- 78 attendees/theatre So their average is up slightly the past two years vs. the previous two. Aside from a blockbuster movie out there, I'd say 78 attendees per theater is pretty good. Take a head count the next time you're in a theater for movie. They wouldn't be increasing the number of theaters if the numbers didn't make sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garfield Posted November 13, 2014 Author Share Posted November 13, 2014 How much more do DCI's costs increase per each additional auditorium? These are the numbers of attendees per screen: 2004 -- 400 attendees/theatre 2005 -- 266 attendees/theatre 2006 -- 218 attendees/theatre 2007 -- 198 attendees/theatre 2008 -- 99 attendees/theatre 2009 -- 94 attendees/theatre 2010 -- 79 attendees/theatre 2011 -- 73 attendees/theatre 2012 -- 71 attendees/theatre 2013 -- 78 attendees/theatre 2014 -- 78 attendees/theatre So their average is up slightly the past two years vs. the previous two. I don't get these numbers as they look like they're down dramatically over time. Would you explain how this is good, NE, disregarding the last two years of marginal growth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.E. Brigand Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 I didn't say it was good. I asked how much it costs DCI. Presumably, as drumcorpsfever says, they wouldn't have added theatres if it was costing them more, but that's just a guess. What was the price for a "Big, Loud, and Live" ticket? Was it $18? If that's right, and assuming for the sake of simplifying the math that the price didn't change (and ignoring inflation, too), with 17,603 attendees in 2004, that works out to $316,854, while with 49,168 attendees in 2014, that works out to $885,024. But if it costs DCI, let's just say, $500 per theatre (I have no idea what the real number is), then their costs for 44 theatres in 2004 were $22,000 and their costs for 634 theatres in 2014 were $317,000. That gives a net of $294,854 in 2004 and $568,024 in 2014. Clearly worth it. If the cost per theatre exceeds $963, then (at $18/ticket), then it would be less profitable for DCI in 2014 than in 2004. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2muchcoffeeman Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 I assume Fathom Events pays theater operators for access to their screens, and the added screens means more cost. On the other hand, it's a Thursday-afternoon event that doesn't compete for prime time, so I imagine the rent is pretty cheap, and possibly made cheaper by virtue of making volume buys from the big theater operators, e.g. Cinemark. Meanwhile, ticket revenue remains undiluted by volume ($X per ticket is $X per ticket, no matter how many theaters are showing the event), so the breakeven mark per screen probably goes down with each screen added. The one screen room set aside in our local megaplex had a good crowd, bigger than the attendance at many movies I've watched in a theater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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