goalieguy Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Then again Goalie Guy, there was this DCI Regional in that same stadium in MN which saw tornado warnings, evacuations, thunderous rains and the eventual cancellation of the rest of the contest. Nope, no where is without it's "adventures." That's in July - in the heart of tornado season.. Labor Day is usually a different kind of animal..Besides, the MN State Fair is about 1 mile away (as the crow flies) and unless there's twisters in the area (about 3 times since Father Hennepin founded the city in the 1600's) that whole area is jumping like crazy. Plus - the Twinkies might be in town, and who knows about where the Minnesota United FC will be playing since MLS has added them as an expansion franchise..The Vi-Queens will be in their new home by 2016, so they might even be able to open those big glass windows and have the show THERE.. BTW - that DCI show will be BACK at that Stadium this July!! I'll be there as usual, hawking t-shirts and stuff for MBI Just sayin'... Pat 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2B or not 2B Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 I think they could have 3 Regional Shows. One in the Mid West. (Minn. or Wisconson). One in Atlanta area. One in North East. (NJ/NY/PA area). Then make it Mandatory that each Corps at least make the Show in their Home Region. The problem I have is : How to get as many Corps as Possible go to one Regional Outside their Home Region. That is the hardest part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamarag Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 I think they could have 3 Regional Shows. One in the Mid West. (Minn. or Wisconson). One in Atlanta area. One in North East. (NJ/NY/PA area). Then make it Mandatory that each Corps at least make the Show in their Home Region. The problem I have is : How to get as many Corps as Possible go to one Regional Outside their Home Region. That is the hardest part. The Scranton show has pretty much become the de facto Northeast Regional. As for getting Northeast corps to travel to other regions, there's one very easy, time-tested way to get it done: Pay them. That's essentially what Winston-Salem did in 2005. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 The Scranton show has pretty much become the de facto Northeast Regional. As for getting Northeast corps to travel to other regions, there's one very easy, time-tested way to get it done: Pay them. That's essentially what Winston-Salem did in 2005. how dare you use logic as opposed to forcing socialism on corps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldephard Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 The Scranton show has pretty much become the de facto Northeast Regional. As for getting Northeast corps to travel to other regions, there's one very easy, time-tested way to get it done: Pay them. That's essentially what Winston-Salem did in 2005. "Pay them" is easier said than done. So let's say there are eight corps at each of these regional contests. Just guessing, let's say the average bus bill + other travel expenses is $5,000 per corps. That's $40,000 is performance fees, plus the cost of judges, facilities, advertising, insurance, etc, etc. Now you are looking at at least $50,000, probably more like $60,000 to put on one of these shows. Typical attendance at the existing Scranton regional is probably about 2,000 on a good year, but let's use it as an optimistic guess at paid attendance. Will 2,000 people pay $25 - 30 each to see 8 corps? Seems very doubtful. The current model of show sponsors footing the bill and hoping that enough people buy tickets to cover their expenses does not allow for these regional shows to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xandandl Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 $25-30 to see 8 corps is usual for a DCI local show, not just the Regionals with almost all World Class corps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cf144 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 $25-30 would be cheap. Tickets between the 20's at PPL park in Chester, PA this summer for 7 corps is $50-125. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajlisko Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 (edited) "Pay them" is easier said than done. So let's say there are eight corps at each of these regional contests. Just guessing, let's say the average bus bill + other travel expenses is $5,000 per corps. That's $40,000 is performance fees, plus the cost of judges, facilities, advertising, insurance, etc, etc. Now you are looking at at least $50,000, probably more like $60,000 to put on one of these shows. Typical attendance at the existing Scranton regional is probably about 2,000 on a good year, but let's use it as an optimistic guess at paid attendance. Will 2,000 people pay $25 - 30 each to see 8 corps? Seems very doubtful. The current model of show sponsors footing the bill and hoping that enough people buy tickets to cover their expenses does not allow for these regional shows to happen. As the Barnum has proved the past three years, the crowd does not pay for the corps ... Individual or Corporate Sponsors do ... the only reason their crowd numbers went up the past few years is because the ticket price was lowered to $5 in 2012, then $10 last year ... and last year was a monumental concession agreement between DCA, the Barnum and the Corps to even have a show ... it will be interesting to see if ticket prices hold this year ... not sure what the lineup will be other than the Hurcs ... Edited March 30, 2015 by ajlisko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimF-LowBari Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 (edited) As the Barnum has proved the past three years, the crowd does not pay for the corps ... Individual or Corporate Sponsors do ... the only reason their crowd numbers went up the past few years is because the ticket price was lowered to $5 in 2012, then $10 last year ... and last year was a monumental concession agreement between DCA, the Barnum and the Corps to even have a show ... it will be interesting to see if ticket prices hold this year ... not sure what the lineup will be other than the Hurcs ... Sounds like the 4th of July parades around Baltimore... "And now sponsored by Mars Supermarkets... here are the....". Won't reveal the dollar amounts but 4 or 5 parades at $$$$ it was worth some Southern corps to make the trip with a busload of people. Edited March 30, 2015 by JimF-LowBari 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamarag Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 "Pay them" is easier said than done. So let's say there are eight corps at each of these regional contests. Just guessing, let's say the average bus bill + other travel expenses is $5,000 per corps. That's $40,000 is performance fees, plus the cost of judges, facilities, advertising, insurance, etc, etc. Now you are looking at at least $50,000, probably more like $60,000 to put on one of these shows. Typical attendance at the existing Scranton regional is probably about 2,000 on a good year, but let's use it as an optimistic guess at paid attendance. Will 2,000 people pay $25 - 30 each to see 8 corps? Seems very doubtful. The current model of show sponsors footing the bill and hoping that enough people buy tickets to cover their expenses does not allow for these regional shows to happen. You're absolutely right. But until someone is willing to step forward and foot the bill, there is simply no reason for the Northeast corps to travel. If you can figure out a way to ensure that travel is in the best interests of those corps, more power to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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