2B or not 2B Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 I wonder if more Corps from Europe might be getting a little more interested in joining DCA. It seems United Kingdom and Germany did VERY well in DCA, (also Japan across the Pacific). Maybe some of the Dutch Corps might be interested now with the New Rules Changes. (Remember Kingsgrove MADE FINALS both Years.) I am sure more than one of the Dutch Corps could do that also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) I wonder if more Corps from Europe might be getting a little more interested in joining DCA. It seems United Kingdom and Germany did VERY well in DCA, (also Japan across the Pacific). Maybe some of the Dutch Corps might be interested now with the New Rules Changes. (Remember Kingsgrove MADE FINALS both Years.) I am sure more than one of the Dutch Corps could do that also. "Joining" DCA is not an option, inasmuch DCA is solely for "North American" corps---thus any corps' not from North America, do not qualify. Although, one North American corps will be bumped from a top 10 performance slot at the championships to accommodate---it's happened to Sky, Bush, Carolina Gold and the Kilts since 2002. Edited March 25, 2015 by bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2B or not 2B Posted April 4, 2015 Author Share Posted April 4, 2015 I don't know the exact DCA way they do things. BUT, DCA has indeed had International LISTED as members. First The "Inspires" from Japan. They did very well. Closer to the TOP than the bottom, Then came the "Kidsgrove Scouts" from Great Britain . Who were also not a bottom Corps either. In Open Class. And lets not forget "Heartliner" from Germany. They were Class A., and they indeed did not make finals. Think about coming all the way from GERMANY, and being one spot out of Class A Finals. I believe they all DO have an Evaluation, before they come. Just like the North American Corps do. It is the DCA "WORLD" Championships. If they are NOT. It should Change the name to: "North American Championships". I know it is sad that a Corps like the "Kilties" missed out getting a Score. But They DID get to be seen on the Field at Finals. They are one of my Favorite Corps and was glad about that. Oh and by the way. If you go to the DCA Site. The "Kidsgrove Scouts" ---> ARE LISTED as a MEMBER Corps, Photo and all on Member Corps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 I don't know the exact DCA way they do things. BUT, DCA has indeed had International LISTED as members. First The "Inspires" from Japan. They did very well. Closer to the TOP than the bottom, Then came the "Kidsgrove Scouts" from Great Britain . Who were also not a bottom Corps either. In Open Class. And lets not forget "Heartliner" from Germany. They were Class A., and they indeed did not make finals. Think about coming all the way from GERMANY, and being one spot out of Class A Finals. I believe they all DO have an Evaluation, before they come. Just like the North American Corps do. It is the DCA "WORLD" Championships. If they are NOT. It should Change the name to: "North American Championships". I know it is sad that a Corps like the "Kilties" missed out getting a Score. But They DID get to be seen on the Field at Finals. They are one of my Favorite Corps and was glad about that. Oh and by the way. If you go to the DCA Site. The "Kidsgrove Scouts" ---> ARE LISTED as a MEMBER Corps, Photo and all on Member Corps. No opinion was ever expressed, rather---simply the facts. DCA is an association for North American corps and four corps (Sky, Carolina Gold, Bush, Kilts) since 2002 have not performed, at one time or another, within the 10 Open Class finalists positions while international corps' have. Each of the four corps finished in 11th place; 10th place amongst the North American corps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamarag Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 You're confusing being a member of DCA with being a VOTING member of DCA. There is a huge difference. Only North American corps that compete regularly in the circuit can become voting members (based on placement at DCA Championship Prelims). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 You're confusing being a member of DCA with being a VOTING member of DCA. There is a huge difference. Only North American corps that compete regularly in the circuit can become voting members (based on placement at DCA Championship Prelims). There is no confusion; "in joining DCA" are the last three words in the opening sentence of the original post---to which was referred to (and highlighted) in my initial response---nothing more. An international corps is simply limited by geography alone and, if I recall correctly, by bylaw as well---in regards to "in joining DCA". DCA has extended a wonderful courtesy to international corps with allowing performances/appearances and (also) a potential performance opportunity within the finalist format, that's all good for the activity as a whole. You don't see that type courtesy anywhere else in the drum corps activity on a worldwide basis. With that being said, a geographically (amongst other things) qualified North American corps may not (as occurred four times in the past) be a part of the finalist performing group at the championship; because of the said courtesy. Nothing was ever mentioned as to whether it was deemed right or wrong, fair or unfair, good or bad, etc.----all that was mentioned was a clarification of the actual facts, starting with "in joining DCA". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamarag Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 DCA has extended a wonderful courtesy to international corps with allowing performances/appearances and (also) a potential performance opportunity within the finalist format, that's all good for the activity as a whole. You don't see that type courtesy anywhere else in the drum corps activity on a worldwide basis. Well, except DCI does it as well. Many international corps have competed at DCI World Championships over the years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 (edited) Well, except DCI does it as well. Many international corps have competed at DCI World Championships over the years. If I recall correctly, international recognized corps are presently allowed to compete at only the DCI Open Class level at the championships itself, and only if following the DCI competitive rules. Edited April 5, 2015 by bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamarag Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 If I recall correctly, international recognized corps are presently allowed to compete at only the DCI Open Class level at the championships itself, and only if following the DCI competitive rules. Close, but not entirely correct. International corps compete in Open Class (by definition, like DCA, a class for any corps to compete in). International corps are given a bit of leeway with the rules (age and instrumentation, as well as timing). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 (edited) Close, but not entirely correct. International corps compete in Open Class (by definition, like DCA, a class for any corps to compete in). International corps are given a bit of leeway with the rules (age and instrumentation, as well as timing). The reference to international was made to the DCI Open Class "championship"; scroll to the bottom of the below linked page and read the final several words of the final sentence---within the International Class category (one of three DCI Classes---World, Open and International): http://www.dci.org/corps/ Whatever DCI chooses to do within their model, has nothing to do with DCA................returning to the original point "in joining DCA"--is simply not possible under the present, from what I recall, bylaws. It is geographically impossible as the association is the standard for all-age North American drum corps. As previously mentioned in another post, it is a wonderful courtesy with DCA allowing a non North American corps a finalist position, it's a positive for the activity as a whole. Although, it still does not negate the fact a geographically qualified North American corps will not take their place within the finals competition at the championship---because of the courtesy extended to a non North American corps. Edited April 5, 2015 by bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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