redhowes Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 I was listening to Anaheim 74 and could hear arranging and drop two voicings in their jazz concert section that to me became Blue Devils' thick chord sound. Wayne perfected this more and more over the years. We do not need to talk about just the previous statement but all evolution of brass favorites and the techniques used to create such great chords and voicings! If you are an arranger or a judge of brass, please share your experiences! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigW Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 There were a lot of pretty advanced concepts being worked with in the 60's in DCA- Listen to the Cabs with their arrangement of "Cherry Pink and Apple Blossom White" and you'll here some really advanced voicings. Also some nice writing with the Selden Cadets and St.Rita's Brassmen in period. The best arrangers in period were really beginning to delve into those issues in that era, and things began to evolve through the '70's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhowes Posted March 25, 2016 Author Share Posted March 25, 2016 Great writing and for one valve, a rotor or slide. Chromatic tensions and dissonance as well. To get intonation on paper. No Midi virtual Finali back then.Tweak the show at camp! Different times! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironlips Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 Today s "arrangements" are really orchestrations. It's a valid skill, but very different from figuring out how to voice tunes for instruments that were not chromatic. Some of the real geniuses of old were Emil Pavlik (Kilties), Rip Bernert (Audubon), Jim Donnelly (Sky), Joe Genero (Cabs), Hy Dreitzer (Sky, St. Rita's...etc), Truman Crawford (Royal Aires...etc.) Whether they know it or not, all of today's arrangers owe them a significant debt. Words are insufficient. Listen to the recordings. Fleetwood Sounds has re-issued many of them. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhowes Posted March 27, 2016 Author Share Posted March 27, 2016 74 Kilties ! Great brass! In Eli's Coming, the arranger had to static modulate the melodies between the baritones and sops. Two diatonic close related keys to keep the line in tune. That guy could write! Off to check out St. Ritas! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhowes Posted March 27, 2016 Author Share Posted March 27, 2016 (edited) Cabs and Brassmen! Got the hair standing goose pimples! Now off to the NY Skyliners. Edited March 27, 2016 by redhowes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhowes Posted March 27, 2016 Author Share Posted March 27, 2016 Imagine arranging Copland's Third Symphony,but for G bugles in 1969. Chromatic but still range, tessatura limited to the valves. A great study for arranging chords! Harmony history. In awe here. St. Rita's Brassmen Brooklyn!!! I am sure every brass player remembers their favorite chords. Even the warm ups on the starting line. That hurricane force sustained wind 60 horn power hype! Don Hill would point to each one of us and raise or lower your note at a quadruple fortissimo. Dissonance then consonance. What a sound! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Drum Corps Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 You started this conversation with Anaheim Kingsmen. Mike Duffy is a genius at voicing, but did not write 1974. You forgot to mention Jim Ott. Ironlips nailed it with some of his mentions. Some people that cannot be left out of this list. Don Angelica, Corky Fabrizio, Red Windsor, Larry Kirchner, Tony Yaklic (sp), Jim Wedge et al... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirdValvesAreForWimps Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 You started this conversation with Anaheim Kingsmen. Mike Duffy is a genius at voicing, but did not write 1974. You forgot to mention Jim Ott. Ironlips nailed it with some of his mentions. Some people that cannot be left out of this list. Don Angelica, Corky Fabrizio, Red Windsor, Larry Kirchner, Tony Yaklic (sp), Jim Wedge et al... Truth! Al "Corky" Fabrizio was the best arranger and brass instructor I ever had. Jim Elvord was amazing too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucbari Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Ken Norman....Kilties 68 blew me away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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