rancidrolla Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 why doesent anyone use bach horns? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow_7 Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 why doesent anyone use bach horns? Because Bach isn't what it once was. And their marching brass is more student model-ish. The same could be said about King up until recent history. Except back when King actually did G bugles. I don't think Bach even offers a full line of marching brass either, they only have select sections iirc. No french horns, only convertable tubas or sousaphones, etc... When I was in the army(mid-90's) we ordered some bach 16's and one of them had a bell stamp the severly warped the bell. But that didn't stop them from sending it to us anyway. And I've seen a lot of recent stuff in other forums over the newer bach mouthpieces having some quality control issues. Kind of a shame, they used to be a standard of sorts. Shadow_7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rancidrolla Posted September 25, 2005 Author Share Posted September 25, 2005 a school in my area got a full line of bach marching horns 4yrs ago when it was built Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMBob Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 Also, the Bach horns, from what I have seen, are carbon copies of the Yamaha models (pre-Cadets and Cavies innovations) but with longer valve throws. No reason to buy them when you could get the "new" version of the same horn from Yamaha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mafields627 Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 I do believe that Bach marching brass was made by Yamaha. I don't know if that has changed or not. The quality of the trumpets is very inconsistent. Some horns play poorly, others play ok, others are a dream. Better off with Yamaha where you can trust a whole lot of instruments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein On The Beach Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Bach horns are crap, whether it's marching or pro "legit" horns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofjabba Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Bach Mercedes Marching Brass in the 1980's were direct copies of the olds marching brass. They bought the tooling from olds for marching brass, and Low brass when olds closed in 1979. The newer stuff has been redesigned, and oddly enough does look like yamaha. I don't know why the did it... I always thought you don't fix what ain't broke. Bach's better idea. I Guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newterak Posted October 2, 2005 Share Posted October 2, 2005 Bach horns are crap, whether it's marching or pro "legit" horns. wurd... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jameseuph Posted October 2, 2005 Share Posted October 2, 2005 (edited) The current bachs are copies of the old king marching brasss (the pre-ultimate series). Bach offers a mello, bari, and sousa. Before Bach/Selmer merged with Conn/UMI the Bach line were Yamaha copies. Edited October 2, 2005 by jameseuph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow_7 Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 Bach horns are crap, whether it's marching or pro "legit" horns. For trombones, at least in the 80's a lot of pro's used Bach horns. Not because they were the best horns. But because the intonation tendancies between octaves didn't require a lot of adjustment. One of the sweetest trombone sounds I've heard was on a bach 16 and a bach 11C mouthpiece. Thinking late 80's norweigen cruise line commercial type sound. Not that the quality of modern bach horns match some of those older models. Which is what I like about Kanstuls these days. The intonation tendancies let you play more with less adjustment. And the tune any note is a sane/good idea. As a few of the groups I've played with wouldn't know the word consistency, even if it came in a pair of cement gloshes. Shadow_7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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