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  1. A slight from DCI against the TOC corps? Might I suggest that the very existence of TOC is a slight against the entire activity as a whole.
    14 points
  2. I don't know how it will impact scores, but here's what I suspect will happen: Blue Stars Tensions will erupt when the brass judge is accidentally stuck by a pin meant for a voodoo doll. After some sort of spell is cast, he will recover and go on to judge brass for the rest of the night, much to the relief of Crown fans. Spirit of Atlanta Partway through the show, an actual raid will occur and the entire corps will be taken away except for one mellophone player who was the designated driver. He will give an intoxicating performance and save the day. Blue Knights As a last minute addition, BK will include the scene from European Vacation where Chevy Chase can’t get out of the traffic circle. They will be rewarded for linking their past English show to the endless circle theme. Boston Crusaders Boston will be heavily penalized by visual judges who don’t realize they are on the field until they reveal the red uniforms. They will get most of it back from GE judges who thought they were performing underground before rising. Madison Scouts The percussion judge will be injured by a stray bullet he had assumed was just a sound effect. Inspired by the show, he will ‘soldier’ on to judge drums the rest of the night, much to the disappointment of Crown fans. The Cavaliers The Cavies will shock the audience by breaking their secrecy to reveal the answer to one of the world’s most enduring questions, namely, what happens to all the odd socks that disappear in the dryer. Bluecoats In an attempt to bolster the parade theme, Bloo will add real horses to the field. This will not be appreciated by the corps yet to perform. Phantom Regiment In an impressive feat of fluid dynamics, an actual moat will be added to fully highlight the castle formation. Triumph will turn to tragedy when VK’s shark resurfaces to eat the heroine. Santa Clara Vanguard In an effort to enhance the Les Miserables experience, Vanguard will add a voice sample of Hugh Jackman singing. Disaster will ensue when they accidentally use Russell Crowe. The Cadets Looking to add a small ensemble feature, Hopkins will ask his staff to shop for a quartet by Barber. His instructions will be misunderstood, and the show will end up with a barber shop quartet. In a thematically appropriate reaction, George will be beside himself. Carolina Crown Not providing the answer that his lover hoped for, John will get slapped into the middle of next week, thus proving that time can be altered if sufficient energy is amassed. Blue Devils In an attempt to save the sacrificed maiden who dances herself to death, the Devils will reprise their 2005 show and have her dance backwards until she comes back to life in their newly titled show, “Yowsa, what a Riot!”
    12 points
  3. Hi all, I wrote a post for my company's blog that I thought might interest you, so I decided to share it here. Check it out: http://brandwarepr.com/2013/the-drums-of-change-roll-in-media-distribution/ I'm interested to hear your thoughts, I know it's a very polarizing issue. Keep it civil, please. :)
    8 points
  4. Answer: Because to any non-percussionist, as long as the battery is whacking and banging in some sort of pulse, the non-percussionist will move on to judge (what they consider to be) the real music.
    6 points
  5. I'm 100% positive that BDB was not spitting. They clapped. I was on the field. You, my sadly mistaken friend, are the one who is classless.
    6 points
  6. Just curious, shouldn't Crowns weakness in percussion be affecting their ME and MA scores? It seems obvious that guard performance affects visual effect and visual analysis, shouldn't it be the same for percussion in relation the music captions?
    5 points
  7. Maybe the judges in those captions feel their percussion section works with the music, while the percussion judge is not pleased enough diddle-parachesseum-wing-dang-doodles are rammed through the drum heads.
    5 points
  8. Didn't see this thread started and since I know the kids read this, I think they deserve it! What a cool show! :thumbup:/> Congrats to BDB and Genesis placing 2nd and 3rd respectively also! Congrats to the rest of the Open Class Field, thanks for the wonderful 2013 season!! Looking forward to 2014 :smile:/>
    4 points
  9. 4 points
  10. I've been reading (and occasionally) posting to DCP for several years now. This is not the first "forum" of this type that I have participated in over the years, on a number of topics. I have NEVER seen such consistent MEANNESS in any forum other than DCP. There seems to be a huge number of nasty posts, which range from showing a lack of respect to outright cruelty to a previous poster. Sometime I gasp out loud when I read some of these mean comments. I just can't believe that people are so nasty, much less that they are willing to put it into writing in a medium where it will never completely disappear. What is it about this forum that brings out such lack of common courtesy? such downright rudeness? such nastiness? Don't tell me it's because it's a competitive activity and that people have a lot of passion for it. Other activities are just as competitive, and inspire just as much passion as drum corps, and the fans don't attack each other. Just because I'm a (Fill in the Blank) fan doesn't mean it's okay for me to totally slam someone else just because they like (Not "Fill in the Blank"). I'm passionate about my college team but I don't consider our rival's fans EVIL, and I don't say nasty things about them just because they happen to like a different university than I do. I just don't get it. . . I just wish we could all respect each other, and feel free to discuss our opinions without the fear of being personally attacked. (I fully expect people will respond with comments that say I am wasting DCP bandwidth with this topic, that I'm an idiot, that I'm naïve, that I obviously haven't ever been on another forum, etc. I think that's sad. . . )
    4 points
  11. I think the question should be 'Does DCI scoring work?'
    4 points
  12. RAMD wasn't completely bad. I found my lovely bride there. Garry in Chicago (at the in-laws)
    4 points
  13. I'll hold my tongue about BDB. Vanguard is a class act, always has been, and way to go V cadets! You deserve this win! Maybe it's an all around Vanguard year!
    4 points
  14. Like anything, it's a tradeoff. If you average 3 panels, you won't have any one judge calling the champion or distorting the outcome too far. On the other hand, you'll never again have a Phantom 2008 or SCV 1999 where a red-hot finals performance takes a championship. You can also easily get a situation (as happens all the time with caption trophies) where the winner is mathematically inevitable after semis. Given how exciting it was to be there in 1996 or 1999 or 2008, I'd prefer that finals alone decides the winner. If you're really worried about That One Judge, I think it'd be reasonable to double all the captions for finals rather than just GE.
    4 points
  15. The winner of the 2013 DCI World Championship has already been decided and it is without a doubt the Troopers. They may not even get to perform on Saturday night, but what they have brought back to DCI with this years show has won over so many new fans as well as helped keep some old timers around that in my book they are the real champions no matter what placement they get. Congratulations to the members and staff of the Troopers for a job well done!
    4 points
  16. And the results are in! The wining post of the dumbest thing on DCP goes too……………….. “Santa Clara's Flag Code Disrespect”
    4 points
  17. I think the top four in 1989 where the best ever, but I admit to probably being biased because that was the first year I was introduced to DCI
    3 points
  18. Wow... a six year old thread bump. Nice!
    3 points
  19. honestly, if anything moves it'll be between BD and Crown, and then SCV and Cadets.
    3 points
  20. C2, win championships? Really? You see them at Downingtown as compared to what MBI and the Bucs offer? Sorry. Any theoretical C2 "best run" will fall short to those programs. They also are rehearsing and improving. And really, the Cabs program is also a very solid package as well from the effect triad standpoint. I still put it ahead of the C2 package. In terms of coordination/overall package, the top 3 right now have that element covered in spades over C2. It would take a lot more than they have now. Miracle? Possible. I can keep open to something like it happening. But I don't put it at a very high level of probability.
    3 points
  21. Drum corps desperately needs something like VK or Bridgemen. It needs this badly. But of course, no corps who takes this artistic approach will ever be a champion. Bridgemen perhaps could have won a title in 1980; that was probably the closest any of them have come. Under the current scoring and judging regime, no comedy-based show could possibly win Finals. (In fact, you probably couldn't end up in the medals, or qualify for G7. No corps director would take that approach today. It would be tantamount to suicide.)
    3 points
  22. I would rather have them promote Open Class who they don't give near enough coverage. The poor wittle TOC can do without one article...thumbs up to DCI for covering Open Class first.
    3 points
  23. Just incase you didn't know, the Govenaires will be hosting the biggest drum corps party EVER! (well maybe not the biggest ever, but lets not let the facts get in the way of a good story) The party starts when the scores are announced. Come to Patrick's for a night of drum corps vids, friends, drinks, food, and all the storys/bs/spectulation you can handle. Some say this is where the real critique happens, so come buy a drink for a judge because it will be worth 5 points;-) yup, I said that.
    3 points
  24. I saw it live up top...and yes, live it did come across as fitting the overall package better. I changed my opinion. Simple has nothing to do with it...and yes, I looked at the sticks...you dont get points for trying something, and IMO, all of the constant hand motion changes do NOTHING to set the kids up for success. Remember, the sheets are based on the derived achievement method of adjudication......in order to gain maximum credit for content, achievement must be there. And with the gaps between content and performance, it's obvious until achievement happens, the bok numbers won't get love. Now...is the book, per the field sheet, as hard as some others out there? No. Yeah, they have hefty physical and evironmental challenges, but so do most of the lines at the top. But after seeing it in rehearsal as well as live in the show, some of whats written will never get clean. it's written dirt. Sure it may help upstairs because the ensemble holds andit maximizes effect, but for the field sheet, clarity of articulation is a killer. several snares often times don't have the same consistent approach to the drums. If you want to be a top line in August, you don't blow the attack playing 8's in the lot. Here's the big thing too.....numbers management. Music judges with a brass background willalmost always keep things tight. It's the old "don';t want to get yelled at" approach. You see it in DCA, BOA, TOB, etc. Drum judges have balls, and aren't afraid to throw out a spread, and don't care about the total package or placement, they care about their sheet. You can see this in avariety of circuits as well. Look back to 2010...Phantom was what 6th overall? Going on in the middle of the show? And the percussion judge at finals went 99/98. he left some room yes, but Phantom was so ###### good based on the criteria, he gave em the love. You rarely even see a guard judge do that.
    3 points
  25. I disagree with those that are arguing that Crown's percussion isn't affecting the bigger picture. Having seen the show a few times throughout the season, there have definitely been times when the lack of clarity in the battery was completely apparent from up top. You can bet money that an out of tune brass section would be called out on an MA tape. Why not an obviously dirty triplet roll? I don't say any of this to slam Crown or their show. I just see a pretty obvious disparity in the numbers. Crown's percussion section is clearly not as strong as their brass, or as strong as the rest of the top 6 percussion sections. When its that apparent, there should be an effect on the MA scores.
    3 points
  26. So you are saying percussion is not as important to the overall package as brass and guard?
    3 points
  27. Bucs 92.80 Cabs 89.55 C2 86.50 Fusion 85.75 Bush 83.50 Sabers 81.10 Sun 78.00 I dont think Bucs will be as far ahead as some say. No way C2 passes Cabs. Fusion will close on C2 a little. Bush hanging in there. Sabers get back on track a little. Sun makes a nice jump after 2 weeks.
    3 points
  28. The guard community would presumably include a sea of judges... who've had BD's guard on top at the majority of competitions since 2009. So who do you mean?
    3 points
  29. Good grief!!!! The response from BDStaffAlum is not anywhere close to being homophobic; it was just a comment about the excessive, crazy, and silliness concerning the overdone movements on the field. Want proof? Webster's Dictionary definition of 'Fruity': relating to, made with, or resembling fruit; having the flavor or aroma of ripe fruit; extremely effective, interesting, or enjoyable; sweet or sentimental especially to excess; crazy, silly. The bold represents what many consider is being performed on the DCI field, and nowhere does Webster's indicate the word is to be considered effeminate or less-than-masculine. By the way; what flavor is your hat?
    3 points
  30. I would change how judges are recruited. We need to bring in a lot more music professionals, not just music educators. Music educators are important, to be sure, but not when there is an overabundance of them judging. We need folks who have written, produced, and performed in non-drum corps productions. People with Broadway, Las Vegas, and touring shows. Theme park musicians. Military band guys. Rock musicians. Session guys. Professional dancers and choreographers. If we could reduce the music educators and "drum corps guys" to about 50% of the judging pool, it would go a LONG way towards rebuilding the activity as a whole.
    3 points
  31. My son and I went to our first ever DCI event this year (Allentown) and we were completely blown away with the awesomeness of it. Beforehand, I thought that would get sick of "marching band" music (I know they're not marching bands) but we sat through 2 days with 10-12 groups each day and at the end of it, I wanted more. I have never been more entertained by a show than I was by what I saw and heard at Allentown. I don't have a history with DCI so I can't comment about the changes that have happened but I know what they're putting out now is absolutely terrific. They people around me in the stands seemed to enjoy it quite a bit too. And in any case, if you don't like what you're seeing: don't complain loudly during the performances!!! No one came to hear your negative comments, we came to watch the show! (we had a loud guy behind us on Saturday complaining nonstop during performances about what he didn't like - and he didn't like a LOT of things).
    3 points
  32. The French guys are going to be offended - declare war on SCV - and surrender. Still a non-issue.
    3 points
  33. "Hmm, what non-issue can I ##### about today?"
    3 points
  34. Newark, NJ. Number 1 unfriendliest city in the world. http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/07/travel/unfriendly-cities/ Based on the comments from that nutcase, Reason1, I can see why they won that poll.
    2 points
  35. Great Review and some beautiful picture one could not ask for more ,hopefully DCI will relize what they have here in open class and give them there due .But for now it is what it is ,
    2 points
  36. I have no problem with that at all. Heck, I've commented multiple times about how cool the $5 Barnum Festival tickets are. if Florida Sun was really serious about complementing the show, he could easily have done so without the...wait for it...lame pot-shot...at the Reading home show. But he didn't.
    2 points
  37. And to hear the same tape along with the 1995 Madison Scouts......
    2 points
  38. Gold - I saw Gold early in the season and very much enjoyed the show then. I was really looking forward to seeing the integration of the members from China and the improvements in the program. I was not disappointed - in fact this exceeded my expectations. Aided by a quality guard, the Chinese acrobats really brought home the East Meets West theme. Major goose bumps at several points in the show. High energy. Tons of fun. The original music by Scott Director very enjoyable and really enhanced the visual presentation. 7th Regiment - the show Luminous starts on Side 1 and moves across the field, moving from night to day. The corps makes full use of the field. Great equipment work, especially the rifles and the ensemble flag work at the end when the yellow flags make a big statement. The show starts and ends with pointing skyward where we find the lights. Very enjoyable show. Spartans - Always a favorite of mine, the 2013 show "Live Free" begins with chains and the guard partially covered in black over their face and various parts of their costume. Over the course of the show, the chains are gone and the black disappears. The reprise of Swan Lake at the end has a hopeful feel and left me feeling happy about the show. The show also included music from The Matrix and a piece by Philip Glass entitled Naqoyqatsi, Music City - My second viewing of this show found them to have made a lot of progress in performance quality and attention to detail. The corps brings a big sound and their "Postcards from Havana" show provides opportunity for a lot of individual expression (which I love). I found the guard to be very exciting and took note that this was the most expressive pit thus far in the show - I love an expressive pit, especially when I'm seated in the center, row 2. Genesis - The 2013 production "mOZaic" makes heavy use of music from various Wizard of Oz shows, along with other songs by Pink Floyd, The Doors, Dead Mau5, and Skrillex. Despite the other music, this is a great Wizard of Oz show - complete with Tin Man and Flying Monkey visual references. Musically and visually intense, this corps belongs in the Top 3 of Open Class. The show was very well designed, featuring some big emotional moments, including a nice company front, Vanguard Cadets - I saw this show early in the season and thought it had championship potential. "The Art of War" includes a Key Poulan original for the opener and closes with Hut of Baba Yaga from Pictures at an Exhibition. From the time they take the field, there is a sense of purpose. Early season they were on at the beginning of the shows, so it was nice to see them under the lights. At one point the whole guard (35 or so I think) was on rifles which was a great effect. Toward the end they do a huge company front stretching between the 10s. Blue Devils B - I saw this show several times in June. It is nothing like what I remembered. They have added so much visually from the drum heads, to several large arches, to tarps on the field, to uniform changes. I though the battery and pit were both excellent. I loved the soloist who gets "trapped" in a square created by the arches. He tries to bust out and then finally realizes he need to open the door and just steps out.
    2 points
  39. This topic! WOW I'll take "Who gives a ####" for $2000 Alex!
    2 points
  40. I've been asking myself this question all season. How is Crown consistently winning music analysis when their percussion scores are so low in the rankings.
    2 points
  41. murph, the TOC cup is a huge middle finger to the rest of DCI. I wouldn't cover it either, if I were them.
    2 points
  42. I think it could be an excellent learning opportunity for corps members to ensure that elements of their show wouldn't be considered disrespectful by some. Further, I am confident that the staff and members of SCV would NOT do what so many posters here are doing and simply respond by calling the OP an idiot, and even purposely insult the country in question as so many here seem to be enjoying doing. It's Drum Corps International - part of that is taking the extra effort to ensure that other cultures are treated respectfully, rather than being snarky and assuming we can do no wrong.
    2 points
  43. Brother I mean no disrespect to any LGBT. Hell, I live in Hillcrest in San Diego, and if you know anything about Hillcrest... Fruity, cheesy, nutty...these are all words that describe foods, and also tend to describe an action. Has nothing to do with sexual orientation or bias. There was another poster in this thread that used "gay" as a negative connotation and you didn't even harp on him.
    2 points
  44. Go back to moving the championships around the country. I am getting tired of Indianapolis. I love being able to drive to Indy but I liked planning mini-vacations around DCI to other parts of the country more: Orlando, LA, DC, etc. ...... but PLEASE NO MORE JACKSON MS's!!!!! That place was REALLY BAD!! If they want to remain indoors, there are plenty of indoor stadiums to choose from.
    2 points
  45. Requirement that judges recuse themselves from judging the work of their personal friends and/or co-workers at DCI, band, and WGI programs. Then again, that would require going out and replacing about half of the judging roster.
    2 points
  46. And I just disagree completely. BD has the most demand, Cadets 2nd, Crown 3rd - SCV in fourth or so.
    2 points
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