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  1. A gentleman on my row left some merchandise he purchased when he hurried out after Finals night. As soon as we realized we tried to run after him and locate him, to no avail. I would love to be able to find the owner. I already contacted the corps who the items were purchased from and am awaiting a response, but this young man seemed as though he was definitely in the know on drum corps stuff so I thought he might come here too. So if you left something behind please contact me and tell me the items you purchased, from which corps and your seat location to verify it's yours. I know I would be so disappointed if this happened to me since we all know souvie's are NOT cheap!
    5 points
  2. Top 10? Come on, son, this is DCI. Here are my Top 12 favorite shows... 12. 1991 Star of Indiana - Roman Images 11. 1990 Star of Indiana - Belshazzar's Feast 10. 2000 Cadets - We Are the Future 9. 2013 Carolina Crown - e=mc2 8. 1989 Phantom Regiment - From the New World 7. 1993 Phantom Regiment - The Modern Imagination 6. 1993 Star of Indiana - Music of Barber and Bartok 5. 1993 Cadets - In the Spring, at the Time When Kings Go Off to War 4. 1995 Madison Scouts - A Drum Corps Fan's Dream (A Day in the Life of a Bullfighter) 3. 1999 Santa Clara Vanguard - Inventions for a New Millennium 2. 1994 Blue Devils - My Spanish Heart 1. 2008 Phantom Regiment - Spartacus
    4 points
  3. They had a great finals runs. The members did a great job. The show was nice, lyrical, well-paced, smooth and kind of boring. Not a great show nor a bad show. I’d really like a punch in the face next year with better music; heavy, bombastic classical. Spoke with a member after finals and they had a fantastic year, enjoyed it, were very positive and sold on the corps which really is all that matters
    4 points
  4. Will be at the show tomorrow and am excited to see Alliance's complete show and how far CV's come in cleaning/refining. Also a good opportunity to see Gold again as well as Cincinnati and Sun Devils for the first time. It will be interesting to see how CV scores relative to others who are putting up big numbers in the NE. I know scores aren't the be-all, end-all, but it's still a way to see how they're perceived in the standings. Should be an excellent evening!
    4 points
  5. "You and me baby. We got it!"
    3 points
  6. I don't do predictions, and I won't start here...at least with specific placements. I will however place an opinion out there... I think it is going to take a 93 at finals to get into the top 5 and a 96 for the top 3. What a great year it has been for this, the 50th anniversary of DCA. Good luck to everyone on the final push to Rochester. See you all in a couple of weeks! Dan
    3 points
  7. I neither know enough about drum corps and haven't been around the activity long enough to have a proper opinion about the OP's post.
    3 points
  8. Ladies and gentlemen, I would like to introduce you to the longest sentence in the history of sentences:
    3 points
  9. Oh, I'll give it a try. So difficult to do a top 10 when you've been watching this activity since 1978 (live since 1979). 1. Garfield Cadets 1987 - Still my favorite show of all time, and maybe one of the more beautiful and well designed shows of all time. 2. Madison Scouts 1988 - This is straight-up drum corps with a bit of sophistication in the opener. The closer is to die for, and it's a legendary show. 3. Phantom Regiment 2008 - One of my gold standard shows. I knew they were going to be good at the beginning of the summer, but what they turned that show into was one of the best I've ever seen. 4. Santa Clara Vanguard 1985 - my favorite opener of all time, great staging and marching, and I love the music. This is quintessential drum corps. 5. Blue Devils 1982 - I listen to this show maybe as much as anyone...just for the music. Some of the best music ever put on the field. What a BRASS LINE!!! 6. Star of Indiana 1991 - A monster show with monster brass and percussion, sweet drill by THE Master, and the best end-of-show move of all time. 7. The Cadets 2000 - The Disney Millennium show is one for the ages for Cadets. So much variety, awesome drill, great music, staging, you name it. This show had it all, and what a closer. 8. Blue Devils 2014 - I might have put BD 1997 here (a fab show), or BD 1988 (also a Fab show) but this new 2014 program already makes my top 10. I can listen to it, hum it, and boy did I love the total show LIVE. One of the best performing corps I've ever seen. 9. Madison Scouts 1995 - The baby-throwing show of all baby throwing shows! Great solos, great arrangements, powerful music, killer brass, and about 6 standing ovations at finals. I've never seen a crowd react to a show like this one. 10. Carolina Crown 2013 - E=MC2 has definitely passed up a few of my favorites. Amazing brass, outstanding show design, music that I just love, and this one just gives me goosebumps every time I see it. Other notables: Garfield 1984, Blue Devils 1988, Blue Devils 1997, SCV 1987, Madison 1997 & 1999, Star of Indiana 1990 & 1993, Phantom Regiment 1989 & 1996, Troopers 1986, Sky Ryders 1986 (Wizard of Oz) & 1987 (West Side Story), The Cadets 2011 (Angels and Demons), Cavaliers 2004 (James Bond), Cavaliers 1992 (Gavorkna Fanfare, etc.).
    2 points
  10. Good point... this very well could be one of those "not everything's set in stone after Prelims" years.
    2 points
  11. Yep. I'm hoping for big helping of no-story, take no prisoners bad###ness.
    2 points
  12. A lot of people don't like early season shows...but I may be perhaps in the minority...I like early season stuff as it was originally intended before it is changed for whatever reason...
    2 points
  13. They can't be good in the rain. Instead of keeping the water off their heads it looks like they would catch it there and fill up like a bowl. If you are going to do that, make them clear and add a goldfish.
    2 points
  14. The quality in DCA continues to rise. I expect prelims to be a real dogfight, and then depending on how that shakes out, finals will have serious intrigue as well
    2 points
  15. Take this in the positive spirit in which it’s intended please, but … No one noticed you were missing. Quite the opposite, what we noticed were giant crowds – fans squeezing in from end zone to end zone – from Nashville to Atlanta to Charlotte to Philly to Indy (and probably plenty more cities I didn’t see with my own eyes). And they weren’t down on the Bluecoats bending the pitch with something other than embouchure. No, they were too busy loving it, praising it. No, there were more than enough people buying tickets and more than enough applause to matter. DCP can split hairs, spill milk and cry all it wants, but the OP is right: We loved drum corps this summer and cared not a lick that some of our favorite shows were powered by something more than talent and imagination. It wasn’t just Bluecoats either. Blue Knights were transcendent, using voice in tandem with music to deliver a moving program. Electricity enhanced the visuals too; the clock’s flashing lights might mark another new era. It is a new era for drum corps - an era in which we eagerly bought tickets to shows where electronics were obvious. We can quibble whether fans were actually jumping up in acceptance. We can’t quibble about the acceptance. HH
    2 points
  16. The Cabs are the corps to beat this year. I posted a couple years ago that they really seemed on a roll. Looking back at my beloved MBI championship, there is something incredibly energizing to an organization when they come close like Cabs did last year and MBI did in 2010. I won't be surprised to see Cabs on top this year and it makes it all the more impressive what the Buccaneers have accomplished over the past decade. It is a challenge to be the standard bearer and target. All of this is great for DCA. I think MBI will be a challenger. So are a few others who are scoring well. Let's keep this going and get a centrally located mid season show where all corps can compete together. We have been blessed to sponsor DCI Minnesota which for a couple years was the first head to head competition for the top corps in that circuit. (Outside by the way, which is how it should be but that is my personal bias). Wouldn't it be great if we continue to have close competition and then add in a mid season all corps show? I understand the hurdles. But dream big. My hope is that instead of focusing on why not, people will focus on how we can make this happen.
    2 points
  17. I believe Prelims and Semis have hosted the eventual champion every year as well! (Sorry, send evil glares my way now, but I couldn't resist)
    2 points
  18. Sorry, but the Blue Devils won the Stanford show in 2013. Crown was 2nd.
    2 points
  19. The minor league baseball team complained to the city that PR's march to Lucas was blocking fan access to the stadium. They have made this trek with a police escort for 6 years. The compromise made was to leave 6 minutes later than scheduled the night of the finals. They were in constant communication with DCI staff and were not to rush or break routine. Most members did not know they were a little late until it was mentioned at their breakfast banquet the next day.
    2 points
  20. I just can't get enough of this show and it will go down for me at one of my all time favorites. The whole show, start to end is amazing and that closer, well does it get any better? That nasty hit right at the end of the pitch blend before the final chord is freaking awesome. Congratulations indeed on a show you didn't have to try making sense of, it just plain worked!
    2 points
  21. Doesn't matter what judging panel you get it's the access by certain corps get to them to threaten err.. indoctrinate them on what is good and bad. Judges IMHO should be impartial and not have any association with ANY corps. Wanna fix part of the problem go back to a build up tear down system. Field judges can easily do a tear down whereas judges up top can do build up.
    2 points
  22. Pretty much most of them. I marched with Andy too. How in the HELL did Bluecoats beat Cadets?!?!?!?! I'm just kidding. I've watched this show over and over and they are incredible. I can't wait for the APD or the Blu-ray to come out. I will be blasting that show for the rest of the year. I watched the finals performance on the Fan Network and that crowd reaction at the end of the show was so loud I had to take off my earphones. CONGRATS BLUECOATS!
    2 points
  23. \ This is exactly the problem: corps directors (i.e. DCI) have agreed to certain rules, and the format for judging. Some kind of addition needs to be made to more highly value demand and risk-taking, to value real over simulated demand, such as drill vs. staging. Also, a rule that bans amplification to augment brass lines should be passed. Most importantly - GE should have more sub-captions, more guidelines for what constitutes GE. No one knows what the heck it refers to - how much 'effect' a run and gun drill and simultaneous playing generates? (not anymore). Or how well risk is managed, body movement is integrated, and how cleverly a 'production' is 'staged'. (dominant today). I'm sure other rules need to be passed. What do the experts and fans on this board recommend?
    2 points
  24. Kinda OT, but I have always thought that DCI should start some kind of travel endowment fund to help make it more possible for groups to travel West (and for Western corps to travel East, for that matter). It would take a few years, ok, maybe a decade, but once enough $$ was in place, corps could be "financially encouraged" to travel more without risking the farm.
    2 points
  25. Said by a friend (who knows nothing about music: "But saxophones are brass. right"?
    2 points
  26. flammaster drunk posting on dcp...
    2 points
  27. Maybe you misunderstood what he posted... he said he would leave if and when the woodwinds come in, as for him he believes it would be time to go if it ever came to that. Why not just respect his choice if it comes to that, and let it be, and for perhaps others to replace him as a fan if it comes to that point ? Why scold him on what he prefers to enjoy as a paying customer to an entertainment show event ?
    2 points
  28. Poor little thread, it never had a chance.
    2 points
  29. The only Endorers I know of are the Ewoks. Sorry, I'll show myself out.
    2 points
  30. I think On Day One by Pat Metheny would be a killer opener or closer for the Crossmen to attempt next year. It's something new, challenging, interesting and could potentially propel them back to top 8 next year. http://grooveshark.com/#!/profile/Pat+Metheny+Unity+Group/26481899 There are other tunes on that album that would round out the show, but I would love to hear this song put on the field by them. I know Michael Klesch has other obligations but I wouldn't mind if they had him arrange it.
    1 point
  31. Despite being on the west coast having to enjoy only early versions of shows, except '07, the show at Stanford has been host to the eventual DCI champion in EVERY year's show since it's inception in 2007. We've been lucky in that aspect that, by chance, a corps decides to go west for a tour ends up winning. Aside from TOC shows or other major shows, are there any other shows out there that has hosted the eventual champion since its inception/first-ever show? 2007: Blue Devils 2008: Phantom Regiment 2009: Blue Devils 2010: Blue Devils 2011: The Cadets 2012: Blue Devils 2013: Carolina Crown 2014: Blue Devils Sure, I may be reaching here, especially since BD has been pretty dominant, but still--it's pretty neat. What are the chances of the three non-BD corps deciding to come west to end the season as number one? Basically, I am BEGGING all you midwest and east coast corps to come to Stanford on a regular basis. It's not easy for some of us to venture eastward.
    1 point
  32. And of course, that gets right to the question: is DCI treating World Class corps differently from Open Class corps as requires show length requirements? I'm surprised this subject wasn't raised during the previous three years when Open Class corps at Prelims were being scored on World Class sheets, but as often as was the case this year, had short shows. Someone should do the math to work out where O.C. corps with short shows for 2011-2014 really would have placed if this rule was enforced.
    1 point
  33. It did last year: #5 -- 93.750 -- Cadets2 #3 -- 96.650 -- Minnesota Brass And in 2010: #5 -- 93.963 -- Hawthorne Caballeros #3 -- 96.700 -- Empire Statesmen And in 2009: #5 -- 94.238 -- Hawthorne Caballeros #3 -- 96.200 -- Empire Statesmen And in 1990: #5 -- 94.000 -- Rochester Crusaders #3 -- 96.200 -- Hawthorne Caballeros But in no other year do both of those conditions seem to have been satisfied, so it would indeed be unusual.
    1 point
  34. You can't have a thesis like "DCI and the triumph of the Simulacrum" and then say that huge parts of DCI are also not a part of it. You cannot take the most important parts of DCI like music selection and program choices and ignore them and then say that DCI as a whole embraces the simulacrum. That like saying "yeah they are playing big band jazz music but don't you see how perfectly staged the trumpets are!? Simulacrum apologists!!" You can't simply say that because DCI uses electronics and cares about "staging" that it suddenly is a part of the Simulacrum. Is staging and electronics such Hallmarks of the simulacrum that everything that utilizes these things is suddenly inferior to things not in simulacrum? Look if you want to say championship shows don't have as much demanding drill as they used to you can say that. If you want to say that "where" things take place on the field is more important that "how" they happen that's fine too. And you can say that electronics do not have a place in modern drum corps... whatever! But why wrap this all around some convoluted philosophical idea?! Can we just call a spade a spade please?!
    1 point
  35. Bluecoats were one of the few corps to generate a standing O at Rutgers...AKA "Borg Country" to you... prior to their final chord. That includes long time corps people sitting all around me. No, you personally don't have to accept anything...but it appears that lots of the general audience liked what they saw and heard, from reading about other crowd reactions all over the country.. I've never had a Bloo show at the top of my list, until this year, and not just the ending. That just nailed down their total show IMO. Oh...I only saw BK online...but they had an incredible show this year too. (IMO of course).
    1 point
  36. Cadets failed in musical selection, not electronics (or any other) execution. If anything, Cadets were one of the best examples yet of live narration. Blue Knights were a great example of recorded narration done well. DCP shows plenty of endorsements of both. Colts are an example of narration done poorly. No big deal. There were horn lines, drum lines and guards that executed poorly too. Objectively, we have butts in seats to measure acceptance of a decade of electronics. Goal line to goal line is acceptance by any objective measure. Enjoy your hot dog. Must be lonely in there. HH
    1 point
  37. http://www.bostoncrusaders.com/news/408-bod-job-listing Board Administrator Inspire Arts & Music (IAM), based out of Boston, Massachusetts, a 2.5 million dollar non-profit that serves over 19,000 students per year, is seeking a part-time paid individual to manage the administration of the Board of Directors (BOD). The IAM Board of Directors consists of over 32 individuals from across the United States. This newly created position can be located anywhere in the United States. The time commitment is expected to be approximately 10 hours per week. There is no set weekly schedule for the position as the tasks to be performed are flexible and only need to meet the expectations of the position. This allows flexibility for the individual being hired. A small fraction of the tasks must be performed Mon-Fri, with a majority of tasks independent of day of week/time of day. This position reports to the Chair and Vice Chair of the BOD for Inspire Arts & Music. Compensation is $5,000 per year, payable monthly (end of the month) at $425 per month. This is a 1099 position. There are no benefits. Once a year (October), the individual must attend the annual BOD meeting in Boston (all expenses paid). All other engagement will be through email, telephone, and video conference / webex. Responsibilities include: - Management and maintenance of BOD one page biographies - Management and maintenance of BOD mailing and e-mails lists - Management and maintenance of Drop-box/file sharing/archiving - Ensuring committee minutes, agendas and action items are captured and stored in appropriate folders - Ensure that annual/compliance documents are completed - Ensuring that on-boarding tasks for new Board members are completed - By-law distribution (DCI and Inspire) - Conflict of interest - Risk management / member interaction policy - Ensure monthly update communication (e.g., email to BOD with updates, reminders, etc.) - As needed, phone calls & emails to BOD members to help drive, interact and engage on organizations priorities/objectives - Committee facilitation – help organizing meetings, providing dial in / webex details, collecting minutes, sending meeting reminders, etc. - Preparation of monthly BOD meeting - Distribution of materials prior to the meeting (~72hrs) - Obtaining and management of ppt's, agendas - Meeting management (800 lines, attendance, etc...) - Ensure approval of monthly BOD minutes - Preparation of Annual BOD meeting (e.g., logistics, communication, working with committees on presentations) - Ensure "Downtown DCI" best practices and DCI BOD consortium information is distributed to the Inspire BOD - Management/Administration of the IAM Board of Directors Facebook page - Distribution of educational articles and books to the BOD Qualifications - Passion for the music, arts, and education of youth - Strong written skills - Functional ability with Microsoft Office (e.g., Word, Excel, Powerpoint) - Ability to successfully interact and engage with senior leaders - Previous experience in administration a plus Interested candidates should send their e-mail to: Thompson Vou, tvou@iaminspired.org. Applications must be received by August 29th
    1 point
  38. I don't think you understand the point. It's not the programs or music that's played, but how the program is designed, how much demand, how much props are relied upon to generate "GE" (whatever that means these days). This sentence from another post sums up how much simulated (demand, sound, drill, recordings) is ascendant today: "Staging trumps drill every time. WGI style > Brass theater style > DCI drill. The simulacrum wins. It's cleaner and easier to judge. It fits what the sheets ask of it." It's similar to the judging of olympic figure skating. Imagine if a quad jump that has a wobble on the landing were given less points than a "well-staged" perfectly clean triple toe loop. ​What's getting rewarded these days is cleverly risk-managed sleight-of-hand "demand". It makes me feel fooled, patronized, manipulated, not awed and inspired like I used to feel watching DCI.
    1 point
  39. Our West Coast friends have valid arguments as to why DCI should be held out West on occasion and this has come up in other threads. If I am not mistaken, I think 2016 is the last year of the contract with Lucas Oil Stadium, so discussions have to be underway about whether to renew or change venues. If DCI does not enter into another multi-year contract, perhaps traveling east for one year, Midwest for a second, west for a third would be a viable solution. Also the person who mentioned the travel endowment fund has an excellent idea which would give a variety to the corps the West Coast sees each year.
    1 point
  40. Buccaneers 93.9 Caballeros 93.8 Fusion Core 92.9 Cadets2 92.0 Bushwackers 85.2 White Sabers 84.9 Hurricanes 84.1 Skyliners 77.8 I think Joey Pero is going to really pump up Sky. This, along with some stiff competition between almost all of the corps from bottom to top will set the stage for a lot of higher scores than we are used to seeing at the Scranton show. I'm going with Bucs by a short-hair, but I think it will come down to whoever lays down the most confident performance of their program. I think the most interesting thing going on is a two-fold question....How high can Fusion go this year and How much of an impact will a full Cadets2 have on the race? I'm still not convinced that these two corps are ready to take down Cabs, Minnesota or Bucs, but something tells me these three corps are not quite as separated from the rest of the pack as they have been for the last few years. Not a knock of these great corps, I just think that a few others have stepped up their game. So, I say to all the corps in competition on Saturday, "Who wants it the most? Who is going to grab the audience by the (your choice of noun) and demand the victory?"
    1 point
  41. But oddly enough....not a single judge.
    1 point
  42. Corps design shows that the current DCI judging community rewards, and deletes things that the DCI judging community tends not to reward. Thus, there is nothing new under the sun in this, and there are no mysteries here. We can expect lots of " pitch bend " out the Corps wazoo machines next season, and you can make book on that easy prediction.
    1 point
  43. I hope Blue Stars hang on to their staff they got ahold of last year, some consistency will do wonders for them, see Blue Devils for what staff consistency can do. Brass line was a lot stronger this year, drumline was just as good, color guard was absolutely killer, and the show design was another big improvement. 2 years of solid improvement after 2012, hope it continues. If they do, would be awesome to see them back in the top 8 again. I don't think they're going anywhere unless a huge staff change occurs.
    1 point
  44. I agree with whoever indicated that the corps are using it too much for low end. When you have 16 tubas out there, you shouldn't need to support them. Personally, I hated seeing a laptop on the field.
    1 point
  45. It has all changed so much since back in the 90s when I marched. Man that was over 15 years ago...I feel old now! Best thing to do is understand the technique the corps uses: Musically understand the technique for your specific instrument especially for percussion, Visually understand their marching style so you can adapt quickly, or be prepared ahead of time. Other than that, be prepared, teachable, positive, open-mided, and energetic, and the talent will take care of itself.
    1 point
  46. Which describes about everything used in drum corps, forever.
    1 point
  47. How hard is it to make the top 2 in drum corps? In 43 seasons of the DCI championships, there have been only 12 corps that have placed in either 1st or 2nd position: Anaheim Kingsman, Blue Stars, SCV, Madison, Blue Devils, The Cadets, Star of Indiana, Cavaliers, Phantom Regiment, Crown, Troopers, and 27th Lancers. Even more impressive is since the year 2000, only 5 corps achieved 1st or 2nd: The Cadets, Cavaliers, Blue Devils, Phantom Regiment, and Crown. The Bluecoats become only the 6th drum corps to achieve this distinction in the last 14 years. Incredible achievement Bluecoats! Congratulations! (edited for correction of the 1972 Kingsmen and Blue Stars)
    1 point
  48. THAT'S all you have to refute my proposed system, Jeff? That's not even phoning it in. I expected something more along the lines of your usual detailed, having been in the trenches insights, not "it's confusing."
    1 point
  49. For Sale: One over-sized pair of scissors. Ideal for trimming hedges or liberating marionettes. Could use sharpening. Not safe to run with.
    1 point
  50. look I get it.....I've been there. You lose to someone you don't see all year. it happens. But...and I'm a big OC fan since their days in Open Class...they took HUGE steps forward this year. The problem is so did many others! 5 years ago this show is knocking on finals doorstep. The talent pool keeps getting better every year. In no way should OC sulk. In the last 10-15 years, the only other corps not named Troopers that got so much love yet wasn't a finalist was Jersey Surf in 2012. Think about that. people noticed OC. people who usually wait til after intermission to be seated. kids that don't shut up in the stands until big names come on. You know those I mean. OC turned heads. When next season starts and BDAMinus goes back to Open Class, people will remember OC, and await what they have to offer in 2015.
    1 point
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