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  1. ironlips

    Switching from G to Bb/F instruments, what year?

    Trivial factoid: When the Blue Devils first played "Bird and Bela in Bb" in 1991, it was on G bugles. To perform it authentically in Bb concert, they would have had to play it in "bugle Eb". They didn't. It probably should have been titled "Bird and Bela in Bb, Sort Of". One assumes the other Bloo corps in 2018 is actually performing the piece in the stated key. Comparing both, I think one would find very little to quibble about with respect to intonation in either case.
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    A Look Back at 1971-1972

    1971 was a kind of baptism for me.The previous season I had been the assistant brass instructor for Garfield, under my mentor the incomparable John Sasso. When he left in the Fall to start his own company, I got a battlefield promotion and became the "temporary" caption head by default while a search went on for his replacement. As time went on, we needed music for the Revolutionary War show that John and the rest of the staff (Hugh Mahon, Bobby Hoffman, Pete Emmons, George Tuttle, Ray Cappiccile) had already planned. I took a shot at writing the "Yankee Doodle" opener. The heavies were pleased, the search cancelled, and I got to arrange the rest of what became a pretty controversial show in a year of many such productions. Having never written anybody's entire show before, I was overjoyed, but I also knew I was in way over my head. Thankfully, they hired the brilliant Larry Schillings to teach brass technique. At least he had an actual music degree. The show's strongest impact came from the fertile minds of Hoffman and Emmons, who decided that the mandatory color presentation should consist of Battle Hymn (admittedly an anachronism for 1776) with a dozen or so American flags showcased in a Peace Sign. Imagine the reaction of the Legion and VFW folks at those national 1971.
  3. A very astute analysis from FLBuzcut.
  4. ".. trying to picture a rumble between those groups. " In today's NYC, I can understand that sentiment, but in the city of the 1940s and even into the '50s things weren't always so copacetic between those groups. Both were essentially immigrants, competing for jobs, housing and other resources. Parents of many of the Jewish teens were recent Eastern European refugees who had fled Nazi occupation. There was a resentment on the part of the other groups who were slightly better established and considered themselves "true" Americans. If this scenario is beginning to sound familiar, perhaps that suggests why a new West Side Story might be rather poignant right about now. "Somewhere..." One can only hope.
  5. The World Drum Corps Hall of Fame is seeking photos of the Lancers to include in it's induction tribute to a couple of its most prominent alumni, Chick Corea and Jim Wedge. Should you have any photos, or know of anyone who is likely to, please send me a message through this forum. Many thanks. Frank Dorritie topsop Membership Chair, WDCHOF
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    Audubon bon bons

    In their prime, the Bon Bons were a perennial Top 5 Drum Corps, at the national level. It's true that their drum section was exceptional, and Rita Macey (Bernert) (World Drum Corps Hall of Fame) won the National Individual Snare Drum Championship, defeating the best of the day, some of whom went on to write for and teach other national champions. But their brass section was equally prodigious, and the arrangements, by Hall of Famer Rip Bernert (Rita's future husband), were among the most creative and skillfully constructed ever to appear on the field. There have been other great "all-girl" corps as well, like the ND-Ettes, Les Eclipses, St. Ignatius, and earlier, the Bengal Guards of Orange, Texas, but Audubon was consistently the most dominant of them all on a National level.
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    Been a Long Time....

    So many Junior Corps kids were at that show. Their seasons were over, for the most part. It was "date night". Reading won, deservedly, but the Hurcs represented the home town fans with a very strong challenge, based on superior marching, if I recall. Personally, I thought NY was best, but I was always a sucker for Dreitzer charts and Tommy and Bucky solos. No one knew it yet, but the whole world was beginning to change because Juniors were figuring out touring, with the Troopers in the lead. Once that became the norm, the old guys, who only rehearsed once a week, would eventually be eclipsed skill-wise by kids who went on the road for a month at a clip. It took a few years, but was inevitable. Still, that night, the giants still ruled the earth, and we all knew it.
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    Been a Long Time....

    Probably not. DCA was a closed club then, with a championship for just the founding members, I believe. The following year, '66, other corps, among themThe Sunrisers and Hawthorne, were permitted to compete in DCA shows, including the championship.
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    Been a Long Time....

    Good detective work !
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    Been a Long Time....

    Were there not a couple of jr corps exhibitions at that first DCA Championship, or am I lust having a hazy '60s flashback?
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    Been a Long Time....

    Ok, Andy, but for those of us from NYC, anything north of Yonkers was "Bridgeport". I think you're just attempting to steer us away from what some of the Skyliners perpetrated on Sousa's music that evening. About half the lead sops tried to play the piccolo obbligato in Stars and Stripes, and that was after several helpings of "soup", I think. Let's just say the resulting sound was something never before imagined on the field. It was positively psychedelic.
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    Been a Long Time....

    Probably just preoccupied. Were any of you present at the first DCA Championships in Bridgeport in '65 to witness the retreat fiasco, when the plan was to have all participants play "Stars and Stripes" as they marched en masse from the back sideline? Of course, few of them had actually bothered to learn the piece, so there was lots of "improvising". The result was a kind of "Charles Ives meets Sousa at Thelonious Monk's House". Indescribable chaos. A drum corps Electric Kool Aid Acid moment.
  13. JFLB, I also sent you a PM on this. FD
  14. This group completes a very impressive Class of 2018, especially when added to the previously announced Chick Corea (who marched with Jim Wedge in the Scarlet Lancers), Diane Nicholeris of the San Francisco Symphony (Sir Thomas Moore), and Erik Julliard (Top Secret). Congratulations to all.
  15. This should be a treat: the 2018 World DC Hall of Fame inductee playing first violin on a drum corps standard. West coast SCV and Cavies fans in particular will dig this scene.
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    Sync rights.......

    Robert W. Smith's explanation is spot on. It figures. He's not only a premier arranger and composer, but a highly respected music industry educator.
  17. Last chance to catch the World Drum Corps Hall of Famer before he heads to Europe for a month: Charlotte, NC • 04/17/18 Chick Corea with the Davidson College Jazz Ensemble • Duke Family Performance Hall • 8:00pm He's playing better than ever, even though he long ago swapped his soprano for a piano.
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    Star '91 Question

    George Zingali was not of this world, and his apostles were no slouches, either.
  19. We can all be justifiably proud that drum corps produces the likes of these two.
  20. Something for drum corps folks to be proud of, no?
  21. A couple of interesting facts: Diane is the sister of prominent DCI/DCA percussion adjudicator, Ted Nicholeris. Chick marched in the Scarlet Lancers hornline alongside future legendary brass arranger, Jim Wedge, who created the 27th Lancer sound.
  22. That's a pretty dynamic duo, I'd say. Massachusetts has always been a hot-bed of marching talent, starting from before the Revolution and continuing to this day.
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    ENCORPS, NJ's newest Drum Corps al, Wishing you, your staff and the corps great success. Frank
  24. 1964...World Open...Hedges Stadium in Bridgeport...Casper Troopers in exhibition... They didn't make finals, but we all knew we were looking at the future.
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    All time shows: The Colts

    Re Corps8294 comment " Absolute favorite is 1985. ": I'm kind of partial to that one, myself. Robb Muller had what was then a radical notion: put multiple trap sets in the pit and stage a drum battle during "Sing, Sing, Sing". During an era of very entertaining shows, this one ranked with the best of them. Incidentally, if you watched the Super Bowl Halftime last Sunday you may have seen some of Robb's current students. The Colts have had some real artistic successes. My favorite is the Sondheim-themed show, arranged so skillfully by Chuck Naffier.