sarnia sam

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  1. just saw your post on the Del thread.  Mike who? Douglas?

  2. here they are at Bandfest. They played Canyon, Scheherazade and Clowns. from side 1 from side 2 Regards, John
  3. Doug Gibb Regards & Merry Christmas John
  4. Non top 12: Polish Falcons, 74, cool rifle line and guard, good show. Black Knights, 74, in the rain, Marion. Bluecoats on the comeback, 82 or 83 I think. Glassmen's drumline mid 70s. Sertomanaires, 60s, sparked this loopy journey. Regards, John
  5. oldest - Blue Saints, Pioneer, Empire Statesmen, wishes he could still march. Youngest - liked Cadets in 99, never marched. Regards, John
  6. This is exactly the tunes I would list (not necessarily in that order) as my favourites. I'd also include Crown Imperial and Oakland's Swan Lake. Regards, John
  7. Actually Toronto Optimists is where he marched. Regards, John heh, skimming through the thread for some research, saw the quoted post, made reply - then found out I already did that years ago. Don't know how to delete.
  8. I always thought Vanguard had the best snare tuning (whole line really) every year. Saw them at NIghtbeat and first thing I noticed was how lousy the snares sounded, and then how poorly they were playing them. such a disappointment. It could have been a one-off, the humidity, etc. Nobody ever tunes better than Vanguard *except in 2016. Have to add, Bluecoats snares sounded real nice, same night.
  9. as mentioned above, the problem is passports. Most Canadians have one, it's a necessity with 80 percent of our population living within 100 miles of the border; there's too much cross border business and shopping. Most of us grew up going back and forth many times a week. That doesn't seem to be the case for Americans, many of whom I know don't have passports or are not interested in getting one; so that hurdle would have to be passed before a corps could travel to Canada. Getting a passport requires some legwork and time - at least the first time around. I think by the time someone finds out they have a spot for the summer they would have to be right on to getting a passport in time for tour. All that being said, I don't know what the aversion is to just getting a passport as soon as one is able to, thereby saving panic when one is needed, or having to pass up opportunities because you can't get home without one. As to your last point, not having marching band programs in schools was never really an impediment. There were three drum corps in my home town - at the same time - and the school bands were meh. Toronto had dozens of drum corps. Kitchener always seemed to have two on the go. Dozens of smaller towns had drum corps - until the 80s when costs forced many out of the picture. However, I do think in today's atmosphere, a show wouldn't hurt for recruiting. Mostly though I think it's alumni who need to get something happening. Heck, just turning someone onto youtube videos is often all that's necessary to get a kid interested. People like Bob Thwaites, who started the Diplomats in Windsor and the Preston Scout House organization have laid some ground work for others to follow. They started with used equipment and a limited growth plan rather than jumping into a touring model right away. I also think our society as it has evolved in Ontario is too focused on business = good, all else = maybe; that and some incredibly dumb moves by our government has made discretionary spending a thing most don't have time for. I mentioned above there has been a recognition of culture and arts as being important here, and it is very important, but propping it up is mainly seen as a way to boost a flagging economy to replace our lost, rich, industrial base. I think that's why drumlines have flourished. They are cheap to organize and run (until you start to think about going to WGI) and involve 25 to 40 kids in each one. Many schools don't have a problem getting kids involved, or their parents for that matter. Turn that discussion into funding a full drum corps that has to travel though isn't easy. I was about to hit send and another thought came to mind. If Yamaha approached the Canadian band market they way they created one in the U.S. back in the 80s through latching onto great drum crops using their products things would surely improve. The explosion of drumlines in Ontario is largely due to them and Michael Beauclerc (a Yamaha clinician) deciding to create a market for their drums. I know Majestic has their sights on us now too. If only they expanded their vision to the rest of the band instrumentation beyond percussion. In the end, it boils down to someone deciding to create a drum corps out of nothing the way our parents and grand parents did back in the 50s and 60s and ignoring all the other economic and cultural factors that seem to be standing in the way - kind of what Bob did in Windsor.
  10. UH-huh.
  11. In Ontario there are music programs in high schools and some elementary schools - they just aren't oriented to marching programs (except for two schools I know of, one in Guelph and one in Collingwood) and like in the U.S. some music programs are OK, some are not, and some are excellent. There are dozens of indoor drumline programs now when ten years ago there were none and I suspect in the years to come some will evolve into bands. We never had a strong tradition of school marching bands and all drum corps except for two (Del and Michael Power Knights) were independent. I think because there wasn't a school connection, as costs to operate increased it was hard to find funding money, people just didn't feel strongly about sponsoring corps or shows. There are some new corps (noted above) and maybe one of them will become competitive eventually. There is interest, it's just not widespread. Interestingly four key people (Canadians Doug Thrower, Dave McKinnon, Jon Vanderkolff and Mike Fanning) are at the top of the game right now and all were involved in drum corps in Kitchener when there were competitive corps there - yet Ontario has only corps that are starter kits. I find the kids are interested when they learn about drum corps, hence the growth of indoor lines, which are not expensive to organize and run, but the powers that be don't get the value of music education as an important skill to develop so funding is basic and supplemented by community fundraising in some areas. Interest in arts funding in Ontario has grabbed the spotlight in recent years and many communities have incredible networks of artists, it just focused on other disciplines and not school or community music programs. It's changing, but the snails are winning right now.
  12. and Mike Fanning and Jon Vanderkolff - and we can't get a competitive drum corps going in Ontario.
  13. you ask the impossible. I don't think there is anyone who could explain (not going to use her name). Let's put it this way, she's one of a small group of people who broke RAMD. On the bright side, her actions lead to the creation of DCP, so there's that. Regards, John
  14. Diplomats, Windsor, Ontario Scout House Cadets, Cambridge, Ontario
  15. fellow who owns the store across the street from me is one of those snare drummers. I'l cast my vote for Oakland Crusaders 1980, can't bear to put up a pic. Regards, John