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and at my funeral someday. The Old Irish piece cited to St. Dallen using the Slane melody has given birth to many choral works and versions. No less than Wikipedia has a page of artists who have adapted it as their own, some with some very interesting takes. With "diversity" and multi-culturalism now the big "educational" buzzword, going back to the 1990's-early 2000's several BOA bands did it at GN (getting by their school boards by calling it by the Gaelic name Rob tú mo bhoile.) But that's not what the announcers called it, ha, ha.

Type Rutter in the search bar at http://www.dcxmuseum.org/index.cfm and a page worth of corps and reps cite a number of John Rutter's pieces used by many corps besides Green team.

Cavaliers did Rutter for several seasons in the '90's.

must be a Paris vs. New York "dif-pher- Ahnce."

I was referring to the $60K (up) to build and transport; as of last month they supposedly had not been re-sold to anyone. A lot for a corps budget to eat.

To any reading this thread: You'll note that no Cadets' alums criticized or challenged what either Mike D or I posted in response to Cixelsyd and there are over two dozen usual posters who are Cadets alums. DCP in its protocol limits the discussion of personal religious beliefs, disparaging person's reputations, or presenting rumors as truth. This is why I have ended my discussion of the matter as I do not disagree with anything Dave Shaw and co-authors published but do not see it as infallible papal statements. I have pm-d a several page response to the Cixel and others who have posted attempting to explain my academic research and how these conclusions were reached. At this point, the "discussion" is much more appropriate to the "historical junior corps" forum. I certainly never said I was the cause/source/or otherwise for the new relationship between the parish and corps, neither with which I am currently affiliated nor am I currently affiliated with any corps. If anything, it has been Deacon Thomas (Scotty) McGarry, Ph.D. (Fordham) who has been the main energy to keep the parish and corps in positive relations. His presentations at The Cadets Corps History nights during Spring Training and in liturgical matters for the corps at the parish have been outstanding, a real example of the excellence the corps seeks to personify. Former Cadets Director Joe Cinzio, his wife Sophie and their family, who are past and current members of Most Holy Name and who was the director who first affiliated me with the corps share with many alums the impetus which has brought the Cadets, in the words of the current pastor Msgr. Reilly, "home." Because much of what is involved in those years also pivots on people’s reputations, individual’s religious practice, corps’ reputations, and matters of conscience… all topics which DCP protocols strictly forbid discussion when it is not specific to a given corps at the present time (such as the GH problem,) neither MikeD or I enunciated further aspects which you seek as “facts.” Others may share their personal conversion routes. That’s not my job. You may not accept assessments, interviews, educated opinions as facts. (Most of my written records and citations were destroyed when my house was damaged by Hurricane Sandy in 2012 and then by the devasting house fire the following year.) The only criticisms of what I posted have come from those outside the corps history and family. I consider the matter of my posting in defense of MikeD to be closed and I will not comment further on this. Have a blessed Christmas, Chanankah, and new year.

Then again, there were the 2019 Cadets.

adding to audition nerves for callbacks, it'll be Friday the 13th! Cadets: Character always, even when stressed.

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Frank was special and not just in name. So often he was bigger than life and yet in his own often quiet or colorful way. I remember one time I was invited out to Cavies' winter camp. Adolph told me Frank would pick me up at O'Hare Airport. My plane arrived late in snowy Chicago and I walked out of the building to the appointed spot. I was used to seeing Frank in tee shirt and shorts (summer tour gear.) There he was in his police uniform with his police cruiser. He put me in the front seat (to make sure no one had the wrong idea.) But in the short ride from one side of the airport to the Rosemont school, an alarm came across the police radio about an attempted bank robbery. As Frank's was the nearest car, he turned on the siren and the bubble light and off we went. He had me cowering under the dashboard when we drove into the bank lot as he exited with a drawn gun. No shots were fired, but I didn't need any bullets. He had much fun sharing with the corps after camp how I was cowering for a false alarm. May St. Peter grant him a special seat in the heavenly convoy and may he have the reward of all his great deeds for the Cavies, his family, Rosemont, and so many others. We lost a very good man.

Hey, you didn't even mention the other ball in the air in the juggling which is mentoring those student teachers who live with Matt and his family while they all teach at Avon High. Can you even imagine what the energy must have been when Kevin LeBoeuf lived there?!?!?!?

I'm in a unique position to comment on both of these posts. For one, while I was still a college and then graduate student and a drum corps and color guard judging apprentice, I worked with the Boston CYO office under Mons. Bob McNeill as a moderator in discussions between the smaller CYO/EMass/Yankee circuit drum corps and the parishes who "sponsored" them; what "sponsorship" entailed differed from unit to unit, the only common denominator is that at some point the signature of the pastor of the parish (who is also canonically and civilly an officer of the corporation of the local parish church) was scribed on documents recorded with the CYO office and the unit was allowed to use the parish or parish school name. Sometimes there was a small contribution from the parish to the unit; not always. Sometimes the unit was allowed to practice on/in parish/parish school property; sometimes the utilities used for those practices and the insurance covering the unit's practices and activities were covered in the parish budget, but not always. Some units had to pay for what they used. It differed place to place from the perspective of the unit, the clergy, the parishioners, the schools. Most units had to raise the majority of their funds apart from the sponsorships of these parishes and schools. As the demographics of parishes changed in urban areas to suburban areas, as costs of parish schools (particularly with increasing number of lay faculty who had to be paid a true salary and benefits compared to what was "paid" to the groups of teaching Sisters, Brothers, and order priests prior) the mission (statement goals and protocols to use current terms) did not always view drill teams, bands, winter guards and drum corps (of various levels) as best options for that mission fulfillment. And the mission statements of these marching units also changed during the years prior and after the formation of DCI and WGI. Sometimes it was a clash of personalities, sometimes a clash of budgets, sometimes merely a difference in philosophies and applications. The Archdiocese of Boston eventually closed a number of parishes, merged others, re-constituted or re-purposed some as the neighborhood changed (new immigrations, urban to suburban shifts, economic shifts in some neighborhoods.) Immaculate Conception and St. Anthony's, both of Revere and Blessed Sacrament of Cambridge are examples of parishes that changed greatly and the marching arts as an option saw different histories. Certainly a doctoral dissertation or two awaits for future study and publication all that went on in the Boston Archdiocese during these decades of Church and "marching arts." Believe it or not, sometimes one way I united the differing drum corps and clergy was in their joint "disdain" of having the moderator of the discussion be a "New Yawkah." Oh,when I write my memoirs... 🙂 In New Jersey, the story has an official version, several unofficial versions, much rumor, much confusion, much personality and personalities, some of them characters. I agree with MikeD, an alumnus of the corps, that the previous poster makes conclusions without all the facts. Some of those facts are only now coming to light as years pass and historical archives grant access, the Archdiocese of Newark had resumed leadership of the parish after several decades where the Franciscans, known for their vow of poverty, ministered in Garfield and where the current pastor of the church has done a yeoman's job of welcoming the corps in the dozen years he has been there; in fact he extended to the corps several levels of involvement which GH declined. A definitive history of the split, the perspectives, the hurts, and the reunions would be another doctoral dissertation that won't see the light of day until all parties have passed. But one of the five reasons given to me by Drs. Cinzio and Santo, (both alums of the corps and directors of the corps and one who raised his family in that same parish) when they invited me to be part of the corps staff was to help ease that reunion, a hope that never faded in their understanding of the corps and in the understanding of so many of the mms and alums. It is part of the reason I made a special effort to obtain and post the photos of the recent memorial Mass (10/13/19.) The corps is/was/and hopefully will continue to be more than merely singular characters whether clergy or laity. Past histories can't be undone; parishes change, drum corps as an activity has changed, and people hopefully grow. These times and people are different in ways that challenge still.

compare with the shift in teenage demographics in the Northeast (from the cities to the suburbs) and then retiring parents moving to Florida and South during that same mid-sixties to late 80's time frame. Also compare the shifting demographics post-Viet Nam and Vatican II for sponsoring Vet groups and churches (not just Catholic.)

monastic penance.

Hook 'Em let me know that Houston is to have snow this week. Is it because "Boston" will be in Texas???

Thanks for the info. Some of those so key to the show have passed on. Remember Paul Cain "....YOU may enter the field in competition!!!" ??? I know the "parade committee" people at Bristol have been seeing some retirements, ailments, and those aspects which naturally happen when a good thing ages; the replacement new people don't always have the same priorities or ways of doing things. Still a great experience and place though. I still recommend it to anyone looking for a truly American Fourth.

yes, BITD of 3 peats and 100 corps in prelims, there were never 55 people on "faculty" (one for left handed spins, one for the right drummers stick, etc.) or 20 on admin. staffs, not counting the 18 drivers and rotations.

Each DCI corps has its own traditions, protocols, history and personality/personalities. Multiple choice: 1) part of the auditioning to be a helmet-header. 2) the modern equivalent of being called out to do push-ups. 3) making a stand-out impression on the caption heads evaluating the hundreds who turn out. 4) pressuring the costume mfgrs. to bring down the price of boa plumes and headgear. 5) all of the above. Thanks Tom for being a good sport.

Regiment certainly seems to be generating the turnout as photos are from the Beloit, Wisc. audition. This is from the simultaneous Dallas audition. https://t.co/9zGREyREbm

Weather for Jupiter auditions today is a balmy 81 degrees with partly cloudy skies, a UV index of 5 (for those handicapping what their tour tans will look like.)

um, Jim, perhaps some posters and lurkers live in trailers.

and the low brass is already tagging themselves, not as Buicks or Cadillacs, but LandRovers/RangeRovers (who will do a drill!)

The Peter Bates..

It's when they abandoned teal and started wearing beige, brown, and tan that corps problems coincidentally began to go ...ugh, brown.

especially any constructive comments about how to construct the props for under $$$ if props be used in the future.