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What he said. I've said for years that the ONLY person I could ever see being able to handle The Cadets would be him. Now BD gets him instead...congrats to them.

Fusion had a Bari spot as of 2 weeks ago. No clue if its been filled or closed, as it is nearly Labor Day... I'm not associated with the group...just heard it from a friend who is. Good luck either way!

What evidence do you have that lines in G play "lower" on average, with longer soundwaves? The horns may be in a lower key, but the absolute pitch is about the same. G hornlines play in C, D, and G a lot, whereas Bb Horns play in Bb, Eb, F, and Ab a lot. If anything, corps playing on G horns actually play HIGHER relative to the key of their instrument, since their tonic / lowest overtone is a minor third lower. In other words, its way easier to play a high C on a sop than on a trumpet...because its actually a lower note on the sop. I realize almost everyone here knows that, but still....

It was indeed 85. I've heard 2 reasons. The most common is that the corps was marching so many odd meters that it didn't really matter which foot was 'normally' supposed to lead, as it changed every 3 sets anyway. The second part is more heresay. Apparently the corps was getting a little too comfy / sure of themselves after having won 2 in a row, and sully wanted to change things up / do something new

At the bucs camps i've been to, the members piled into their cars and went out for lunch. Showdays or DCA weekend could be different though

I believe they are back there on saturday / sunday. Is that the same site we used last year? Because I remember folks saying it was, so that would make sense...

Exactly. I Did research BDs show this year (watched their show design videos), whereas I did no research on crowns show, other than what i've read here. Crowns show still made more sense to me (not that I disliked BD either). On top of that, if you showed those 2 performances to someone you grabbed off the street in indy, i would bet they felt the same way. Again, i did like BD's show, but implying that Crown is at the same level as them in terms of "WTF show design" is just...wrong.

I had this exact discussion (more or less) with some friends last night. First of all - I loved crowns show. I was at finals, and I also managed to watch a video of it (sshhhhh!) 4 times in 24 hours. This coming from a cadets fan, who is more than moderately annoyed at times that they have basically owned my corps for the 5 of the past 6 years. I've never bought a thing from them, and they've never had my favorite show of the year....until now. As far as "getting the show"...understand this. There are some people (and I talked to some like this last night), who will never be able to accept spoken voice in drum corps. They hear counting, or narration, or whatever, and their brains immediately go into lockdown mode. I first heard of this phenomenon from Hrothgar back in 2004 / 2005 or so, and its an unfortunate affliction that many people still deal with. I cant say I agree with it, but at least I understand that it has been, and always will be, a huge turnoff for some people. And....if you are the kind of person inherently bothered by it...well, you wont make it even 1 second into crowns show. Nothing anyone tells you, or explains to you, is going to change that... To the point of crown "becoming BD" to beat them... really?!?! I mean come on. Did they take a step or two in that direction? Sure... But I could have watched or listened to that corps in rehearsal clothes playing just a minute or two of their show, and I would have known for sure who they were. Its not just the hornline SOUND, but the way they write the book. Add their brand of body movement (not something I'm a huge fan of), and their propensity for happy, uplifting themes...well, it was just obvious. Crown did exactly what they needed to do. They got a little bit more cerebral, designed a smarter drill (and uniform) that was cleanable, but still the hardest thing on the field, and did just well enough in all the captions to win. Simple as that. To be honest, i'm looking forward to the next step. Not just for them as a corps, but for their fans. Cavies got the complaints from 2002-2006. Cadets from 2005-2008, and of course its been BD lately. It will be interesting to see Crown go from being almost universally loved to...well, who knows...

Well thats a 180 from everything i've ever heard.... at least as far as having to stay at a hotel in general Truth? Or not...?

Statesmen are at Lake Forest HS, in Delaware tomorrow. Home of my last Chapter IX TOB championships a decade ago! :)

Hmm...he doesn't look that different from when I knew him

Many of whom probably dont even need a hotel in annapolis.... I know I could be involved with cadets2 (distance wise), but wouldn't bother with a hotel if I was going to the show. Certainly not for 3 or 4 nights anyway. Plus, i'm guessing a lot of them are college aged...or older (yes, I saw plenty of 14-17 year olds as well in the corps) So yeah, they probably will follow the "Reading" model sometime in the near future. Personally, I cant imagine DCA without the hotel experience, but thats just my personal preference. With them being responsible for so many kids, I can understand why they dont want to do a hotel situation though. You get into some awkward situations with a corps that is pseudo - "youth based", yet has members as old as 25....all sleeping behind closed doors - and drum corps aren't set up like HS bands in terms of Chaperones.

I know a lot of you guys dont read facebook, but this very thing was already suggested as one of the first comments. C2's logic, apparently, is that they dont quite have the following, or the alumni base (duh), of a corps like the bucs, so they would have no real chance of staying at a school, and selling off the rooms. I'm sure they would love to be able to do that....just not able to yet.

I marched in that line...for a rehearsal or two. Couldn't do DCA this summer though. And we were certainly louder in 2010. And yes, on G bugles then, and still now. Be kind of silly to buy new horns for the corps' last year.

This is ALMOST exactly how I feel. I'm not even sure I could go this far though. I wanted to write a big long review of finals weekend, from sitting on the 50 yard line in the highest section - and of course that would have included a nice long section on the constant BD debate. But...i dont have time right now That said, i do often get the impression that BD's brand of different often equals "better" in the judges' minds. I wont even go as far as to say its easier, although i do personally think it is sometimes, but I sure as hell am not qualified truly judge all of that. I also disagree with folks that say it is in the bottom end of the top 12 in terms of difficulty. Maybe 3rd or 4th hardest, if I was pressed to give a number. There is something to be said for the 'judge-ability' and exposure of complex flag exchanges and unified drill moves, vs a flag exchange where equipment is just tossed onto the field and picked up later, or a drill that is largely unreadable with some scattered exceptions where they say "SEE! We can do this too!" Again - I dont hate the Blue Devils, and I didn't hate this show. I actually liked it, and found myself defending it to other folks in my group. My favorite show from them since 2010...in fact I may like it more. Without really knowing the source material well, I could pick up on a few themes, and I even took the time to watch their mediabox show design stuff - something ive never done for them, and didn't do for anyone else this year. I dont think they are death to drum corps, and I dont think it was the easiest show on the field. I also dont think their show design is going to somehow ruin drum corps. I just think that, in general, they get a tiny bit too much credit for doing certain things...thats all. In fact, I think 2nd place is exactly where they belonged this year, so no major complaints there. Just a general opinion over the past 6 years of dominance.