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    Spirit of Atlanta, Bluecoats
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    Bluecoats
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    2015 Bluecoats
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  1. This year in particular there seems he have been a severe trend in design toward "tricking" the viewer into thinking that there is more going on than there actually is. That is, when taken as a whole there is music and motion happening at the same time, but frequently not from the same sources. Among others, the SCV mic'd brass ensemble playing while the rest of the hornline executes visual maneuvers is a prime example of this; unless you are looking for it, you hear brass and see movement and think "oh, they are moving and playing", when in reality the players are not moving and the movers are not playing. On a related but slightly different level, BD featuring the guard while the brass stands still and plays their butts off is another example; the eyes are dazzled, the ears are astounded, and it seems like there is both visual and musical demand. However, the demand exists discretely, where the visual and musical demands do not overlap, and so the individual demands are significantly lower than if there were simultaneous demands. Lets use two examples from Jagged Line. Toward the end, there is a very fast, visually impressive double snake drill; the marchers are not playing, but soloists are, so it seems as though music and visual are occurring at the same time, when the responsibilities are split. Now compare to earlier in the show, when the hornlike is doing a similar follow-the-leader, but this time they are playing a difficult hocketed rhythm (at the end of their opener). This is what true simultaneous demand looks like, compared to later where it is cleverly designed "fake" simultaneous demand.
  2. Carolina Crown 2017

    Very salient. I agree with basically everything in this post.
  3. I haven't been to Indy since 2015, but when I was there I ate and drank at Granite City brewery. I enjoyed it quite a bit, the bartender was super chill and their burger was delicious.
  4. Aww, you mean my Jagged Line manifesto won't be enough to win the judges' hearts?
  5. I would argue that uniform dance work, such as the opening choreography, also must be "clean", without individuals popping out. I would also say that even in the individualistic moments, they need to be individualistic in ways that serve the gestalt, and don't simply stroke the ego of the individual. Otherwise it is unstructured chaos, which should not be rewarded (although it is for certain other corps...).
  6. Ironic, he would pitch a fit at their show this year.
  7. I may have channeled a bit of good ol' Brutus as I was writing this...
  8. I think that it's less about finding satisfaction solely from numbers and placement but rather about being recognized for the excellence that is being produced on the field. When fans look at the product and demands being put out there by one corps, and then see that that corps is not being rewarded like another corps is for perceived similar or lesser demands, or for similar or lesser design, a certain righteous indignation emerges. Of course, having the strongest fan reaction is great, and having a memorable show is nice, but in a competitive activity people are wont to desire acknowledgement, both compared to others and for their own sake.
  9. You are correct, shotgun mics are directional mics. They also have a huge range, which is why proximity isn't necessary to amplify with them.
  10. Cadets 2017

    GE Vis is more about how the visual program ties in to the advertised effect of the show: does the visual design reflect what the show is being sold as? Does the visual package marry well to the music, reflecting what we're hearing with what we're seeing? The Visual caption evaluates the visual book demand and execution independently of the music and overall effect. That is, regardless of how the visual design marries with the rest of the show, is it composed to challenge the performers? Are the performers demonstrating excellence in a variety of demands and executing them well?
  11. The Cavaliers 2017

    It certainly seemed to work for them back in 2000-2006; the Green Machine was stunning to watch and was also highly rewarded. 2010 was also a banner year, and they used a similar visual approach. Part of the reason why I've fallen out of love with the Cavies lately is that they've strayed from the amazingly crisp and refined designs that won them titles. Recently I've felt that they are trying to reassert their identity, but they are mistaken in what their identity is. It's not just having a Y-chromosome, it's being mature and powerful, while still being under tight control. That is the Cavies I love, not this pastiche of testosterone.
  12. When I went to bed last night, I wasn't sure what this thread would turn into. I'm glad that it's more or less what I expected. It's really obvious who did and didn't get to the end; I sort of wrote it with the idea of making it more and more difficult for people to keep reading if they weren't inclined to like "deep explanations" of shows to begin with (or for that matter the Bluecoats in general). Regarding a few points that have been mentioned, my personal taste is neither the unconnected presentation of musical material of old, nor the overly-abstract highbrow message-sending of new. I like shows to have a simple theme, to use music and visual design to communicate that theme, and sell the theme with every aspect of the show (e.g. 2006 Cavaliers, 2008 Phantom, 2014 Bluecoats, etc). I can understand "deeper" shows, but I don't prefer them, and neither I think do most fans, casual or otherwise. As for my true thoughts about 2017 Bluecoats? Well, aside from just being high energy and fun, I think that there is a study of compare and contrast (left/right, high/low, front/back, greyscale/color, black/white, hearing/seeing, etc), but beyond that there isn't much in terms of depth. Certainly not the over-analyzed nonsense of the OP.
  13. I think everyone has their short, medium, and long explanations. Personally, my short explanation is "pro-level marching band"; gets the point across without diving into details they don't care about. My medium explanation is along the lines of "a cross between high-level marching band and visual theater". This is a bit more accurate and invites some questions if they want to learn more. The long explanation starts with "so back when militaries would use drums to communicate..."
  14. More than "great", Prosperie is THE judge. If he gave us 4th, then we deserved 4th. My only comment is that he was in the box, and in the box certain exposed gimmicks are more easily read than more subtle nuance that can only be read on the field.
  15. The Cavaliers 2017

    What bothers me about the Cavies visual design is exactly the disorganized, chaotic approach that people are mentioning. Yes, it takes some doing to be chaotic in a directed manner, but it has a far lower standard of excellence than a controlled and unified visual design. This is why I say that the Bluecoats have a better visual design; their floor for excellence is higher, and their ceiling is higher. The Cavaliers have hit their floor for visual excellence, but because of their design approach they may be close to maxing out.