camel lips

Nailed it! Sad part is I feel certain Hopkins has a bunch of sock puppet accounts and uses them to glorify himself on these social media sites and forums and he has lackeys that do his bidding for him that think just because of the creativity he created that THAT is what they believed in and followed is WHY they want to follow him into the hounds of hell.

I had forgotten about that stunt. How crazy was it to think they could just gloss that over and pretend like it never happened?? Sorta like all these sock puppet accounts and dreamers that think that somehow belive that they keep on victim shaming the victims they are going to worm GH back on the podium or in a position of leadership at DCI? I could totally see once he gets off probation that he becomes a ghost writer. BOA, DCI Winter Gaurd you name it. Butnif it was ever found out who the real author was those units would either get black balled or pay a heavy price . Or not. It's a fickle industry that's hell bent on self destruction apparently.

Makes me wonder how he squirmed his way into DCA and how he stayed in DCA for as long as he did with Cadets2 ? We will probably never know the details of that.

So what is the educational model? What is the one for TSA and how do they differ?

Its what is done in the corporate world . They hope to lower the damages at trial by demonstrating to the courts that they separated themselves from the employee that instigated the lawsuit. In this case DCI separates itself from The Cadets demonstrating to the courts that they are no long affiliated with The Cadets and no longer condone that behavior and hope to get off with a slap on the wrist.

So many organizations have had their fair share of perverts in leadership capacities. Hopkins and Vogt were both Authority figures the same as any of these other staff members that have been accused/convicted of misconduct and sexual perversion with minors but you gotta admit being in the director's seat and carrying as much weight,clout and light that was shown on them as they had sure made The Cadets that Corps that will ultimately be associated with what goes wrong with sexual abuse/perversion. No iff ands or butts about it.

I mean at this point for them what does it matter really? They are bitter and sour and taking their ball and going home and at this point really don't care one way or the other who they offend. Its done and over for them and they are not coming back from it. One would think they would consider the victims in this and consider the future they have professionally moving forward with other organizations but in the moment that does not always translate when you are so passionate about what you have spent years pouring your life into to. Perhaps that was not the intent but it is what it is I suppose.

Sex offenders yes. I understand. But how deep are they diving into these background checks? Are they excluding people from the activity with say non violent felonies such as tax evasion? Low level drug offenses ?

He is named specifically on line 36 of the Complainant Westenberger Lynn Vs The Garfield Cadets. At least the amended version. I have read other versions where its on different lines. But you get the point. He is named specifically. I would post a link but I doubt it would stay up for long. Google is your friend here.

I think most people see these top units in the public eye . SCV , CADETS [INSERT NAME] And think because of the polished appearance on the field, the flashy costuming and they large amount of field presence in terms of personnel, props and amplification that they have it together behind the scenes. Truth be told many of them [most] of them are holding on by a thread , thrown together in a blender and if examined under a microscope would be jailed and fined tomorrow.

Yes, he was the Catalyst

Maybe not

The G7 Vision coming to life ?

https://www.wkrn.com/news/national/i-was-just-doing-my-job-alabama-band-director-says-about-football-game-arrest/?utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_source=facebook.com&fbclid=IwAR1knsXHpyA_6k3BKZOC1Kls3NgBLzndNS8xhhK2EE0JT6wZRl3nrYOqnk8 This guy is my hero! Party on Garth

While I totally agree with you... you are never going to get people to change their way in thinking on this. Even at the DCI level you have lot watchers that don't even make it into the gates till the top 5 units hit the field or till their unit hits the field. The years I was at DCA I saw a bunch of this as well at finals. Steve Rondinaro and Dennis Delucia were guilty of trumping up the top 5 Corps when the shows were on at the theaters big time. The way they would phrase it was that there was a clear level of execution difference when you reach that top 5 Corps. I heard them say this time and time again. While I tend to agree with their analysis that there IS a level of execution difference in those top 5 corps over the other competing units (and the scores reflected it) it also served to speak down to the lower units to say your not deserving and to the fans to say those units are not worth watching. So in the end. It is what it is.