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Unorganized recaps up.... Looks like BD swept all but Vis performance by a tenth to cavies.

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And in first place with the most hosed recaps of the year.............DCI Denver!!

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I can tell you one thing, the spread at San An, will be huge, Unless all the scores re-adjust again because there all gonna be there

Actually, it's usually immediately following San Antonio that the scores start to level.

Here are the last five years' winning San Antonio scores, along with the date of the show, and then the Finals winning score and date to help show what I mean:

2008:

S.A. 7/19 92.375

Finals 8/9 98.125

2007:

S.A. 7/21 91.350

Finals 8/11 98.000

2006:

S.A. 7/22 92.550

Finals 8/12 97.200

2005:

S.A. 7/23 91.775

Finals 8/13 99.150

2004:

S.A. 7/10 87.875

Finals 8/7 98.700

So, for a 92+ to occur would take BD (as the example) another 4-5 points in one week to get up to the level the winning score has been at the last few years..

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How is there a 1.1 point difference between two different judges on the same panel judging the same corps 24 hours later?

Just another example of how subjective this activity really is, and also how far apart the judges can be in terms of what they listen and look for in each caption.

It shouldn't be this far apart if they are judging consistently, but different sampling can cause this too happen on a smaller level. It would have to be drastic for a swing like this in one night.7-8 tenth swing maybe, but not 1.1 total swing from the previous night, just not consistent judging from the green shirts.

It basically says they are not in the same league based on the value of a tenth and that is obviously different from the previous judge. The question is, who will ending up being the opinion the judges take from here on out. History says Cavies but who knows?

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Just another example of how subjective this activity really is, and also how far apart the judges can be in terms of what they listen and look for in each caption.

It shouldn't be this far apart if they are judging consistently, but different sampling could cause this too happen at some level, but it would have to be drastic.

7-8 tenth swing maybe, but not 1.1 total swing from the previous night, just not consistent judging from the green shirts. It says they are not in the same league based on the value of a tenth and that is obviously different from the previous judge. The question is, who will ending up being the opinion the judges take from here on out. History says Cavies but who knows?

Maybe the Cavaliers had an off night last night in brass?

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Just another example of how subjective this activity really is, and also how far apart the judges can be in terms of what they listen and look for in each caption.

It shouldn't be this far apart if they are judging consistently, but different sampling could cause this too happen at some level, but it would have to be drastic.

7-8 tenth swing maybe, but not 1.1 total swing from the previous night, just not consistent judging from the green shirts. It says they are not in the same league based on the value of a tenth and that is obviously different from the previous judge. The question is, who will ending up being the opinion the judges take from here on out. History says Cavies but who knows?

Exactly what i was thinking. .5-.8 of a point, can be expected. One brassline could have had an off night while another had the night of it's life (while appealing more to the other judges ear.) But over a point in less than 24 hours... It almost screams bias towards SOMETHING in the category. (Not suggesting a love for one corps over another, but maybe one type of arrangement, or one lines technique over another that the judge prefers.)

I don't know. It's just a little weird to me...

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July 2008 Denver CO

1 Blue Devils 87.150

2 The Cavaliers 86.625

3 Phantom Regiment 84.350

4 Santa Clara Vanguard 82.750

5 Blue Knights 80.000

6 Madison Scouts 73.475

7 Troopers 73.250

8 Mandarins 69.125

Scores are up across the board for the Corps competing for that 12th spot. However the glaring difference is Troop and Colts are better than Madison this year (so far). Watching the show live tonight on fan network really showed how dirty Madison still is. Drill wise, Madison has a VERY long way to go. The looked much sloppier than Colts and Troop. Also for having 36 guard members, you would never know it. Guard is a complete non factor. They need new flags, new drill and a complete re-write of almost every aspect of the show. Seriously, did anyone even notice there guard? I sure didnt!!! Musically, Madison has some cool moments, but MAN...IT JUST DOESNT FLOW. I am as big of a Madison homer as there is, but im telling you now, if there isnt some MAJOR changes in Madisons show, Semi's is as far as they will go. :thumbdown:

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Just another example of how subjective this activity really is, and also how far apart the judges can be in terms of what they listen and look for in each caption.

It shouldn't be this far apart if they are judging consistently, but different sampling can cause this too happen on a smaller level. It would have to be drastic for a swing like this in one night.7-8 tenth swing maybe, but not 1.1 total swing from the previous night, just not consistent judging from the green shirts.

It basically says they are not in the same league based on the value of a tenth and that is obviously different from the previous judge. The question is, who will ending up being the opinion the judges take from here on out. History says Cavies but who knows?

:thumbdown: Lost! Throw us a bone here! :huh:

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