The Kids work hard, but I still don't like it.

[MikeD]

Please do not feed the animals

But I'm hungry!

[Mellofello01]

TooMello,

When you left early, had you seen all the corps, or did you leave sometime before?

Just curious since you did not mention the timing of your departure.

Edit: added an i.

Edited August 10, 2010 by Mellofello01

[WestCoaster]

I don't think I've everheard these in an elevator

How the West Was Won

Magnificant 7

The Bucaneer

Victory at Sea

Silvarado

American Salute....oops not film per say

But of course I only ride modern elevators that play selections depending on how many floors you move

Which is why I wrote "sometimes it enhances a movie quite a bit".

[soccerguy315]

You know up through last year I felt that the hornlines were losing volume over the years from when I had marched.

But this year I went to Allentown for the first time with my new hearing aids and I have to say it wasn't the hornlines that were losing volume, it was my ears that were losing the ability to hear the hornlines.

The hornlines of today are just as loud as when I marched, and for all those older FMM's who think otherwise you might just want to go and get a hearing test cause it might just be your ears and not the hornlines that have declined.

[The Other Mike]

Which is why I wrote "sometimes it enhances a movie quite a bit".

Sorry I missed that point, in my rush to rant my stupidity sometimes beats my senility to the finish line.

On the other hand..................I've heard Fist Full of Dollars / Hang um High and The Good The Band and The ugly way too many times on elevators..........................

Or is this the right post to reply this to ?

[perc2100]

I'd like to hear of others. Movie scores are an interesting one, but unless you're actually talking about a musical music is clearly ancillary to what a movies primary focus is (acting/storytelling). Sometimes it enhances a movie quite a bit, sometimes a little, oftentimes it's nothing more than elevator music between scenes.

I'd say that if you need to resort to movie score comparisons to drum corps, you're clearly stretching to find some evidence you can work with.

Darnit: exposed my not-so-great-at-times typing

Regardless, I'm curious as to what you're trying to say. My point (that you didn't quote; did you read it or see the music...er movie score and immediately think that was unfounded and then start your psuedo-rebuttal that honestly contains nothing more than a half-handed disagreement) was to compare one medium that utilizes music to enhance a visual (movies) to another medium that uses music to sometimes enhance a visual, and vice-versa (drum corps). It's the most simplistic comparison I could think of.

And I don't know how much you actually know about the production/writing of movies, but I can guarantee that the majority of the time a director has specific music in mind when constructing a scene, and will often edit scenes with that music in mind. For example while writing/shooting/editing Star Wars George Lucas had a lot of Wagner, Brahms and (obviously) Holst's The Planets. Spielberg (another director I originally mentioned) ALWAYS has specific music in mind when shooting/editing a film, and is VERY explicit with John Williams on what exactly is 'needed' for the scene to work. The same can be said for almost everyone who is directing a major Hollywood movie. Conversely, kind of, Martin Scorsese has VERY specific music in mind when he's shooting/editing a scene, though it's typically rock or blues (i.e. not usually classical, though when he shot his last film, Shutter Island, he was thinking of some classical composer I can't remember at the moment). Typically Scorsese has rock/old pop/etc songs in mind: see Goodfellas, Mean Streets, Departed, Casino, etc. Same can be said for Tarantino, though his tastes are typically wildly different/varied (take the soundtrack of Pulp Fiction, almost entirely older rock tunes, compared to his latest Inglourious Basterds, where he utilized Morricone's Spaghetti Western scores).

If you think that music soundtrack is typically ancillary, you are greatly mistaken. Even taking away the work of legendary film directors and composers, more often than not have a certain composer and/or classical score or other source music in mind when composing/shooting/editing a scene. That's why when they screen movies in the test phase they use temp music that most represents what the director wants from the soundtrack.

Just because the finished product is, in your opinion, "nothing more than elevator music between scenes" (though is that what you really think?!), doesn't mean that's not the intent. A lot of times the idea is conveyed well, sometimes it's not. Just like drum corps (oops, another drum corps/movie score reference)

[perc2100]

Sorry I missed that point, in my rush to rant my stupidity sometimes beats my senility to the finish line.

On the other hand..................I've heard Fist Full of Dollars / Hang um High and The Good The Band and The ugly way too many times on elevators..........................

Or is this the right post to reply this to ?

I must not ride enough elevators: the only thing that comes to mind is Girl from Ipanema, but I think I only think of that because of the end of Blues Brothers

** I truly am a movie nerd **

[Tekneek]

I'm sorry, but try to do what?

The answers you seek are contained in this thread.

[TooMello]

I'm amazed at some of the comments. Automatically, if you disagree with current drum corps styles, you are a "dinosaur". I disagree. I went to be entertained. I expected to be "wowed" right out of my seat by somebody or something at some point. It was a drum and bugle corps show after all. For all the education, technique etc. that these young people are acquiring these days, I expected a lot I guess. It's suppose to be so much better than year _ _ _ _. The shows were boring. Period. I wasn't the only one who thought so, and I wasn't the first one to leave early.

I'm the paying customer. You're doing this stuff for the customer, right? You're suppose to be entertaining the customer, right? I'm saying, I didn't find it entertaining. I can appreciate the hard work and effort, but it is not entertaining. Why should I feel like I have to analyze the show and what they are trying to convey to me? Why are you musically inept if you really just wanted entertainment? To call someone musically inept because they don't like the show is ignorance. Drum corps have always done somebody else's music. So why can't I recognize it anymore?

I don't believe I have to be politically correct and all "warm and fuzzy."

You know, if somebody keeps telling you you're wonderful, if you hear it enough, that's exactly what you will think you are... but it doesn't make it true.

[WestCoaster]

If you think that music soundtrack is typically ancillary, you are greatly mistaken.

an·cil·lar·y   [an-suh-ler-ee or, especially Brit., an-sil-uh-ree] Show IPA adjective, noun, plural -lar·ies.

–adjective

1. subordinate; subsidiary.

2. auxiliary; assisting.

–noun

3. something that serves in an ancillary capacity: Slides, records, and other ancillaries can be used with the basic textbook.

How is that not the definition of music scoring for movies? It's auxiliary, it assists the story.

In drum corps, it's prominent. One might even say it's the whole point.

As far as the movie argument is concerned, think of it this way...if Tarentino had selected entirely different music for Pulp Fiction, do you think it would've affected the box office much one way or the other? Compare that to the idea that he selected an entirely different script.

See what I mean?

Just because the finished product is, in your opinion, "nothing more than elevator music between scenes" (though is that what you really think?!)

Oftentimes, yes.

Oftentimes doesn't mean always. That's why I wrote it that way (along with also writing "sometimes it enhances a movie quite a bit", why'd you skip that part?).

In any case, I stand by what I wrote. Having to bring up movie scoring in order to make the point that music isn't "all that" in drum corps is a stretch. Comparing corps to something closer to the same genre (ballet, perhaps...opera, interpretive dance etc...) would make more sense to me.