BlueRevo Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 THANK YOU JOHN!!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Drum Corps Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 Either way...this isnt tha place for unfounded accusations. Donny 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robot Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 But there all true. Don't be fooled DCP this man is a professional liar. Ive seen first hand, I experienced it. If we don't want this to happen again this must be stopped DCI MUST step in and take action. There are plenty of corps going thru finical issues but no members stranded in parking lots wondering how there going to get home. That's unsafe and it neglects the duties of the people placed in charge to protect these members. I'm not accusing I'm making a statement. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garfield Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 But there all true. Don't be fooled DCP this man is a professional liar. Ive seen first hand, I experienced it. If we don't want this to happen again this must be stopped DCI MUST step in and take action. There are plenty of corps going thru finical issues but no members stranded in parking lots wondering how there going to get home. That's unsafe and it neglects the duties of the people placed in charge to protect these members. I'm not accusing I'm making a statement. Mods, (I'm nobody, but...) this thread has descended into VERY personal attacks that can seriously hurt the corps' ability to heal itself. Again, I'm nobody, but I'd sure like to see this thread, and the other on the same topic, shut down and the poster reminded of the DCP policy on personal attacks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetman1287 Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 I don't trust this post, right up to the poor grammar. The line that really got me was the kids who are not loyal to perform can find their own way home seems fishy. You could use that as a threat to perform but any paying kid deserves the ride back especially given the communication issues. Why wasn't the bus company completely settled before the trip to Indy? Still unanswered questions here. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianDirector Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 After reading the entire thread, it would seem that perhaps things are not as bad as first reported....however, as someone who has been involved in drum corps, marching bands and the business world, it seems there are some serious communication issues between the management and the staff and definietely the parents. I am glad that the explanation appears to resolve the major issues, and anyone who has travelled with a charter company, understands there are huge challenges in regards to how drum corps travels and the senior citizens on a a day trip to a casino. But there is obviously still some management issues to be resolved. When all are home safe, and the tempers have cooled I hope that everyone will have their say, and a resolution will be found that will create a positive outcome for the future of Revolution. And some say that this forum may not be the place to air dirty laundry, but if you are a parent 'protecting' your child and others any place to say your peace becomes fair game. BUT everyone must stay level headed and look at ALL the factors before making a snap decision, perhaps the issue that has caused all this discussion could have been better resolved if 1. the parents spoke directly to the corps director/management and 2. the corps director/management have a more accurate/efficient way of informing the parents and especially if someone other than the person in charge is responsible for the ride home. Just my 2 cents but when the dust settles it seems that the situation may not have been as dire as reported, BUT this is one of those lessons that anyone in management can learn something from....communication is key, all the time to everyone involved in the organization, perhaps that would have clarified a few issues before it blew up on dcp. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrumManTx Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 The only problem I have, is why the director didn't come to the corps and tell everyone what was going on, like sit everyone down, and brief the whole group on the situation in person. I know communicating through other people can not get the point across. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeN Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 Saturday morning I get a call saying that the percussion staff had left cause they were fired and the battery decided it would not do the parade. I did tell Bryan that the parade is a required performance and anyone not willfully participating would have to find their own way back since the average age of the battery was 20 I was not going to let that defiance ruin the trip back because if they did not follow directions here I did not want Bryan to have to deal with their behavior on the ride back and give the younger members reason to ignore the rules. As stated the pit members who had no loyalty to caption just their tech decided to step up and complete the parade. Mike 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrumManTx Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 Mike I didn't catch that.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MaestroBen Posted August 15, 2011 Popular Post Share Posted August 15, 2011 Clarification: Saturday morning I get a call saying that the percussion staff had left cause they were fired and the battery decided it would not do the parade. I did tell Bryan that the parade is a required performance and anyone not willfully participating would have to find their own way back since the average age of the battery was 20 I was not going to let that defiance ruin the trip back because if they did not follow directions here I did not want Bryan to have to deal with their behavior on the ride back and give the younger members reason to ignore the rules. As stated the pit members who had no loyalty to caption just their tech decided to step up and complete the parade. John R. Dear John, As a new parent who has just moved to San Antonio, I have been thinking a lot about where my daughter could march in 15 years or so and this caught my eye. You admit that you would force members of their corps to "find their own way back" 1000+ miles from Indianapolis to San Antonio. This is morally irresponsible. You made a covenant with the marching members and their parents to transport them on a tour. For you to strand them 1000 miles from home (even if their behavior was not acceptable...I'm not arguing that it was right for the battery to refuse to march the parade) is reprehensible. Even if the entire battery were over 18, your corps still needs to make sure that they can get home, whether it's on your buses, or another corps's buses, or through alternative means. They should not be in a position to have to do that themselves on no notice. Being dismissed from the corps is plenty of punishment for their actions. During my marching career, I saw exactly one member of my corps be dismissed from the corps before the end of a season. That member was driven by the corps director to a Greyhound station and provided with a ticket home. And, even this decision was only made by the corps director, the staff, the member in question, and the member's parents. -Ben Carlisle 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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