JimF-LowBari Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 (edited) the only way that show will fill the stands if Beiber himself is there "BATHROOM BREAK"..... Actually a good topic, too bad my knowledge of current music stopped a loooong time ago. But at least I got some of the Lady Gaga references on "Simpsons" last night.... Edited May 21, 2012 by JimF-LowBari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim K Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 One poster said that popular music is the domain of high school and college marching bands, but that's a generalization at best. A point I did find interesting was the Boston Pops reference. I subscribe to the BSO and usually attend a Pops performance a few times a year. I agree that some, though not all, of the popular arrangements of the Fiedler years can sound dated today and the same holds true with the Williams years. The current Lockhart era arrangements are good, but they too will sound dated in the future. The same holds true for drum corps. People loved the Kilties 1975 version of "Beethoven's 5th/Roll Over Beethoven" at the time but it would never work today. Trooper's 1979 "Aquarius" though fun and part of one of my all time favorite shows, sounded dated when it was performed, especially when it is compared with other works in that show. Some popular works of yesterday could still work today. A few that come to mind would be Blue Devils "My Heart Belongs to Me," 27th's "Greatest Love of All" or North Star's "Sir Duke" (without the whipped cream pie). As far as an argument as to whether Top 40 or popular music can work in drum corps, "My Heart Belongs to Me" was in the Blue Devil's 1979 show which was their third DCI victory. In more recent days, many believe that "Empire State of Mind" which was a Billboard chart topper is a potential beloved anthem for the corps. Popular music has and can be effective. However, the works have to be engaging, which brings me back to the Boston Pops. I once took my class of seventh graders to a school concert at Symphony Hall. The kids were able to ask questions that were answered by performers. One young man asked a violinist whether he enjoyed the symphony or Pops better (the Pops at the time was made up of all but the principals of the BSO). He diplomatically said it did not matter as long as the music was engaging. This may be the key. The music of a drum coprs has to impress judges and should be appreciated by the audience, but it also has to be engaging for those who perform it. You can tell when a corps is bored with its show, so my thought is that when a corps selects music, whether popular or not, the arrangement has to be challenging and engaging to perform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Boo Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 ...I once took my class of seventh graders to a school concert at Symphony Hall. The kids were able to ask questions that were answered by performers. One young man asked a violinist whether he enjoyed the symphony or Pops better (the Pops at the time was made up of all but the principals of the BSO). He diplomatically said it did not matter as long as the music was engaging. This may be the key. The music of a drum corps has to impress judges and should be appreciated by the audience, but it also has to be engaging for those who perform it. You can tell when a corps is bored with its show, so my thought is that when a corps selects music, whether popular or not, the arrangement has to be challenging and engaging to perform. And for drum corps, it has to be engaging to listen to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastknight Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 And for drum corps, it has to be engaging to listen to. Boo... I agree that it should be engaging to listen to, but many "successful" shows of the last decade were plenty forgettable from a music standpoint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Boo... I agree that it should be engaging to listen to, but many "successful" shows of the last decade were plenty forgettable from a music standpoint. that trend has slowly been turning. let's see what the new sheets bring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glory Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 ... let's see what the new sheets bring Conceptual aural vision! HH 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glory Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 (edited) ...As far as an argument as to whether Top 40 or popular music can work in drum corps, "My Heart Belongs to Me" was in the Blue Devil's 1979 show which was their third DCI victory. In more recent days, many believe that "Empire State of Mind" which was a Billboard chart topper is a potential beloved anthem for the corps. Popular music has and can be effective. However, the works have to be engaging... Right. But the criteria needs to be "engaging." Engaging and popular aren't necessarily the same. From 1979, when BD was playing "My Heart," here's the Billboard Top 10: 1. My Sharona, The Knack 2. Bad Girls, Donna Summer 3. Le Freak, Chic 4. Da Ya Think I'm Sexy?, Rod Stewart 5. Reunited, Peaches and Herb 6. I Will Survive, Gloria Gaynor 7. Hot Stuff, Donna Summer 8. Y.M.C.A., Village People 9. "Ring My Bell", Anita Ward 10. Sad Eyes, Robert John That's the measure of popularity. Which of those is engaging enough? Meanwhile, in 2009, ESOM wasn't in the top 50. While it was popular at No. 62, it's obvious that popularity isn't the best basis for choice (Black Eyed Peas "Boom Boom Pow" was No. 1 for 2009). I don't mean to sound as if I'm beating on TimK like some disco drum. I think he has a point. It just needs to be refined out of the realm of popular, which works better in marketing than music. Engaging works. It worked for ESOM and My Heart. It also worked for Hymnsong of Philip Bliss (Holsinger), The Lords Prayer (Miklos) and many more from less "popular" genres. HH Edited May 22, 2012 by glory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeD Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Right. But the criteria needs to be "engaging." Engaging and popular aren't necessarily the same. From 1979, when BD was playing "My Heart," here's the Billboard Top 10: 1. My Sharona, The Knack 2. Bad Girls, Donna Summer 3. Le Freak, Chic 4. Da Ya Think I'm Sexy?, Rod Stewart 5. Reunited, Peaches and Herb 6. I Will Survive, Gloria Gaynor 7. Hot Stuff, Donna Summer 8. Y.M.C.A., Village People 9. "Ring My Bell", Anita Ward 10. Sad Eyes, Robert John That's the measure of popularity. Which of those is engaging enough? Meanwhile, in 2009, ESOM wasn't in the top 50. While it was popular at No. 62, it's obvious that popularity isn't the best basis for choice (Black Eyed Peas "Boom Boom Pow" was No. 1 for 2009). I don't mean to sound as if I'm beating on TimK like some disco drum. I think he has a point. It just needs to be refined out of the realm of popular, which works better in marketing than music. Engaging works. It worked for ESOM and My Heart. It also worked for Hymnsong of Philip Bliss (Holsinger), The Lords Prayer (Miklos) and many more from less "popular" genres. HH My life would be complete if I heard Regiment include "My Sharona" in their show. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeN Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Also depends on your views on modern pop music, which I can't stand (Party Rock is not legitimate music) Yes it is. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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