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9 minutes ago, BRASSO said:

 The Crown " mod, progressive " headgear alone from last season was as " out of sync " with the 1880's western prairie theme as a fish trying to ride a bicycle. Nobody can possibly attempt to make a persuasive case that the Crown proper uniform and headgear fit last season's theme well. It didn't.  That said, we all learned to exercise our imaginations and look past that uniform incongruity, the very same way fans have looked past the incongruity of ALL the Corps " out of sync" attires over the years.. including that of the Cadets former uniform.

I didn't really think they wanted it to be so literal. You really didn't expect for them to change their headgear in its entirety to fit with the show did you? I assumed that they incorporated the colors into the headgear so that it fit with the rest of the show. The extreme analysis of their headgear is a little pedantic.

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19 minutes ago, 2000Cadet said:

I didn't really think they wanted it to be so literal. You really didn't expect for them to change their headgear in its entirety to fit with the show did you?

 No. I didn't expect CC to do much of anything with their headgear. I start from the premise that I am required to look past pretty much EVERY DCI Corps attire ( especially headgear ) regarding their chosen theme that season, as rarely if ever, do ANY of these modern day " mod & progressive" uniforms and headgear of today's Corps fit well the themes they have chosen for themselves that season. Thas why the Cadets, cadet syled uniform and headgear was never an issue for me.... and more importantly... the DCI judges agreed with me and never viewed the Cadets former uniform and headgear as an issue either.

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14 minutes ago, BRASSO said:

 No. I didn't expect CC to do much of anything with their headgear. I start from the premise that I am required to look past pretty much EVERY DCI Corps attire ( especially headgear ) regarding their chosen theme that season, as rarely if ever, do ANY of these modern day " mod & progressive" uniforms and headgear of today's Corps fit well the themes they have chosen for themselves that season. Thas why the Cadets, cadet syled uniform and headgear was never an issue for me.... and more importantly... the DCI judges agreed with me and never viewed the Cadets former uniform and headgear as an issue either.

Now THAT I can certainly agree with.

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20 minutes ago, BRASSO said:

 No. I didn't expect CC to do much of anything with their headgear. I start from the premise that I am required to look past pretty much EVERY DCI Corps attire ( especially headgear ) regarding their chosen theme that season, as rarely if ever, do ANY of these modern day " mod & progressive" uniforms and headgear of today's Corps fit well the themes they have chosen for themselves that season. Thas why the Cadets, cadet syled uniform and headgear was never an issue for me.... and more importantly... the DCI judges agreed with me and never viewed the Cadets former uniform and headgear as an issue either.

If you’re saying a corps uniform should never make or break their placement, I generally agree. If it matches the show, just icing on the cake for the fans 

But I thought Crowns uniforms fit their theme, it helped I was pre-condition by decades of the Troopers and Crown lifting their colors so it was an easy sell. In fact, I was ‘now why couldn’t Troopers have done this show’ the entire year?

With regards to cadets uniforms, they had many issues with their guard uniforms having to replace them mid-season so I’m a bit worried for them based upon past, recent examples

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2 hours ago, xandandl said:

Senior Enlisted

I almost mistook that for BD's uniform from the 80s/early 90s!

On a side note, I never got to wear that uniform. But, if I'd stayed in a few more years and become an Enlisted Band Leader or Drum Major, I'd have ended up wearing it constantly during Birthday Ball season. 

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4 hours ago, BRASSO said:

In my opinion, few, if any, of the so called  progressive costumes " fit the majority of show concepts being fielded these days ".

 For example, please explain to us how the " mod, progressive look " of the Carolina Crown Corps proper uniform of last season ( especially the headgear ) fit their 1880's spaghetti Western theme, with the 1880's western prairie stagecoach, etc and other props thematically signifying the USA in the 1880"s.

 Your turn... I'm all eyes and ears to learn something new and " progressive " today ...... so go head and explain this for us.... please...

Well the corps proper costume did encorpirate some of the coloring tying them to the guard but I agree the headgear in DCI is probably the last to change but change is coming after blue coats headgear innovation last season. 

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3 hours ago, 2000Cadet said:

I didn't really think they wanted it to be so literal. You really didn't expect for them to change their headgear in its entirety to fit with the show did you? I assumed that they incorporated the colors into the headgear so that it fit with the rest of the show. The extreme analysis of their headgear is a little pedantic.

And Crown's headgear is very nondescript. 

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7 minutes ago, Tobias said:

Well the corps proper costume did encorpirate some of the coloring tying them to the guard but I agree the headgear in DCI is probably the last to change but change is coming after blue coats headgear innovation last season. 

Do you foresee a lot of groups not wearing headgear? I've heard rumors, but curious on your thoughts.

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5 hours ago, xandandl said:

Maybe more a symptom of the cultures in which we live: throw-away babies, throw-away spouses if even that commitment level, discarded genders, revolving parents and half/quarter/flexible siblings.

Now the youth organizations become the palette for the designer making money and commissioned by the manufacturers (endorsement subsidies, travelling specialists salaried by the manufacturers, etc.)  all of them aiming for that spot being employed by Blast or Cirque.

It's no longer about the development of the character of the youthful member for whom the music and marching was an aid to character development, not a goal in itself..

Changing the uniform up is hardly comparable to throwing a baby in a dumpster, and I'm not sure it's very fair to say "the activity isn't about character development/training young folk" when the members are still (ask them yourself) getting positive experiences from it and growing as people. Even the Cadets director who's seen here as a bastion of all drum corps evil takes about an hour out of his day every camp to sit down with the corps and talk life.

 

4 hours ago, BRASSO said:

In my opinion, few, if any, of the so called  progressive costumes " fit the majority of show concepts being fielded these days ".

 For example, please explain to us how the " mod, progressive look " of the Carolina Crown Corps proper uniform of last season ( especially the headgear ) fit their 1880's spaghetti Western theme, with the 1880's western prairie stagecoach, etc and other props thematically signifying the USA in the 1880"s.

 Your turn... I'm all eyes and ears to learn something new and " progressive " today ...... so go head and explain this for us.... please...

You somehow managed to pick what is, in my opinion, one of the best examples of a uniform fitting a show we've seen for the last 5 years.

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Just now, tesmusic said:

Do you foresee a lot of groups not wearing headgear? I've heard rumors, but curious on your thoughts.

Not really. Personally it's not a good look and the ensemble looks less unified. BC last season  probably did it to emphasize the individual vs total ensemble not to mention the various head angles climbing up and going down slides would have looked messy BUT it's now an option for corps.

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