corpsband Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 3 minutes ago, Liahona said: That is fine and no disrespect taken...I've just about had it with all the lies from certain individuals...perhaps I've blown a gasket and need a time out...but so many posters who were not in the room as you've alluded here...keep pouring onto these forums a bunch of hooey that is just flat out false...opinions are fine...but outright falsehoods spread IMO are not. as far as i can tell, your posts are entirely: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liahona Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 7 minutes ago, Jeff Ream said: Well you're doing a fine job of playing the victim card here Mr. Kraft. So they they were butt hurt. I'm sure 27 danced when George and Peggy went to Garfield. Know how to get em back? beat em. On the field. Make them need you. Don't #### and moan on DCp. That's how you win. Remember just oust a few years ago, 7 corps tried to hijack dci, with one of them truly leading the way. Did the other 16 directors come here crying? No. They got their #### together and made sure the others couldn't do it without them. howd that standalone tour of champions thing working out anyway? You've made some valid points IMO...I think the politics of drumcorps is better suited to be debated on this forum...street justice can take place on the competitive field...the G7 actually set precedent of the strong willingness to commit the aggrieved behavior towards the supposed irrelevant corps...I'm very happy that the tour of champions is a huge success...I go to local ToC shows all the time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corpsband Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 (edited) So...to summarize. Some corps (NOT in the G7) 1. Performs a show mocking the G7. 2. Comes into some cash. Actually a lot of cash. 3. Hires away staff from two G7 corps. Pays ..ahemm.. generous wages to new staff. 4. Tries to hire even more of their staff but were told to #### off. 5. Celebrates how awesome these hires were publicly. 6. Staff from one of the corps convinces 20 caption-winning kids to jump from a medalist corps to the one that squeaked into finals by offering considerations of little-to-no fees having to be paid. 7. Cries foul when logistical issues offer said G7 corps a reason to skip a show. 8. Cries foul when members from one of the corps owe money to the original corps and said corps tries to collect said debt. 9. Cries foul when any talks mean about them because they are innocent of everything. 10. Cries foul when it's pointed out to them they're just playing the victim card. OK -- got it. Anymore crying? We should get that all out of the way in one place. Have there been any more evil acts inflicted upon the victim? Or is it time to get down off that cross? Perhaps it's time to... Edited February 6, 2017 by corpsband 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRASSO Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 1 hour ago, Jeff Ream said: Not every scholarship at D1a is a full ride, even for athletes. ' Never said otherwise.. ( never took a position on it, either ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRASSO Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 (edited) 14 hours ago, Jeff Ream said: however if the kid owes the school money, they may do the exact same thing. Athletic scholarships.. of any amount ( full or partial )... need not be paid back to the school by the recipient athlete. As a matter of fact, the NCAA prohibits the school from billing the athlete in the future for scholarships offered as an incentive by the school to go to that school and play the sport there. Any college athlete that incurs other school related costs not covered by the terms of the scholarship naturally is responsible for those costs. Websters dictionary even defines a " scholarship " as something separate from other payments that is unique in the sense that the " scholarship " need not be paid back. Corps that utilize the phrase " scholarship ", might be well advised reinvent another phrase other than " scholarship " in their contract language, particularly if they envision any attempt to future recover monies on the part of the Corps with " scholarship " recipients. Edited February 6, 2017 by BRASSO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Lancer Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 3 hours ago, LabMaster said: That's your spin. New game. Anytime someone says "spin," everybody has to take a drink. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeN Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 50 minutes ago, corpsband said: So...to summarize. Some corps (NOT in the G7) 6. Staff from one of the corps convinces 20 caption-winning kids to jump from a medalist corps to the one that squeaked into finals. Paul Rennick when he moved from Phantom to SCV, right? Decimated Phantom's drumline. Oh wait. Non-G7 corps. Right. Cause the big guys never do that. Mike 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corpsband Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, MikeN said: Paul Rennick when he moved from Phantom to SCV, right? Decimated Phantom's drumline. Oh wait. Non-G7 corps. Right. Cause the big guys never do that. So Phantom had medaled the previous season and SCV was a 12th place corps? I missed that part. Sorry. Edited February 6, 2017 by corpsband Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRASSO Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, corpsband said: So...to summarize. Some corps (NOT in the G7) 1. Performs a show mocking the G7. 2. Comes into some cash. Actually a lot of cash. 3. Hires away staff from two G7 corps. Pays ..ahemm.. generous wages to new staff. 4. Tries to hire even more of their staff but were told to #### off. 5. Celebrates how awesome these hires were publicly. 6. Staff from one of the corps convinces 20 caption-winning kids to jump from a medalist corps to the one that squeaked into finals. 7. Cries foul when logistical issues offer said G7 corps a reason to skip a show. 8. Cries foul when members from one of the corps owe money to the original corps and said corps tries to collect said debt. 9. Cries foul when any talks mean about them because they are innocent of everything. 10. Cries foul when it's pointed out to them they're just playing the victim card. OK -- got it. Anymore crying? We should get that all out of the way in one place. Have there been any more evil acts inflicted upon the victim? Or is it time to get down off that cross? Perhaps it's time to... " Carolina Crown offers no scholarships ".... the story is " BS ".. ( says Corpsband last week ). Please provide proof of a " Scholarship conversion to payment on demand " punitive clause to former CC marchers that have gone to Boston it was demanded. Everybody here remember that ? proof WAS demanded, right ? . So... proof WAS provided that turned the narrative that it was a " BS " story on its head, demonstrated the story was accurate and so now Corpsband is spinning like a spinning top as if its Boston is the aggieved party when in REALITY it is a currently cash strapped Carolina Crown Corps that is agressively shaking down ITS former marchers from last season because these former CC marchers had the temerity to simply decide to march a Drum Corps other than Carolina Crown. This is too funny ( lol!!). Craiga mentions CC's shake down of monies from its former marchers, and Corpsband goes into a fictionalized Memes frenzy of Boston claiming victimhood, when in REALITY, it is desperate, cash strapped, Carolina Crown Corps forced to turn on its own former marchers from last season for needed cash now. ( lol!!) Boston... is... no..... victim.... here ( lol!). Boston does not claim victimhood, and never has with this ( lol!). Stop the spin !!. Somebody stop Corpsband with this silliness ( lol!!), as its adding another layer of embarrassment to a Carolina Crown Corps that doesn't need any more PR embarrassments with this. This is essentially a CC issue of a financial payments dispute between CC and its former marchers. THATS the essential story here. Boston is thus a third party to that public spectacle that is taking place between CC and dozens of its former marchers and their parents over " scholarship " monies that CC claims its former marchers going to the Boston Crusaders owes THEM ( CC )... The bill claims CC is the" victim" now of non payment of debt from its former marchers that helped CC become very good competitively on the field of competition. Oh the irony of it all ( lol!!) Edited February 6, 2017 by BRASSO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corpsband Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 4 minutes ago, BRASSO said: " Carolina Crown offers no scholarships ".... the story is " BS ".. ( says Corpsband last week ). Please provide proof of a " Scholarship conversion to payment of on demand " to former CC marchers that have gone to Boston it was demanded. It WAS demanded . So proof WAS provided that turned the narrative that it was " BS " on its head, and so now Corpsband is spinning like a spinning top as if its Boston that is the aggreived party when in REALITY it is a currently cash strapped Carolina Crown Corps that is shaking down its former marchers from last season because they had the temerity to simply decide to march a Drum Corps other than Carolina Crown. ( lol!!). This is too funny. Craiga mentions CC's shake down of monies from its former marchers, and Corpsband goes into a fictionalized Memes frenzy of Boston claiming victimhood, when in REALITY, it is a desperate for cash Carolina Crown Corps turning on its own former marchers for needed cash now. ( lol!!) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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