Fred Windish Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 8 hours ago, arabica said: . . . . So where are we now? Now that several corps are eschewing the overarching "brand" of their corps proper uniform for attire tied to each year's specific production, brass and drums - like the guard before them - are no longer constrained to move in the same fashion as before. There is fast becoming a breakdown in the lines between guard, hornline, and drumline where the whole ensemble can contribute visually, in-character, to the show. This seems to be what is rewarded by judges today. . . . . Absolutely brilliant analysis of the path drum corps has chosen. We aren't in Kansas anymore, Toto! (I raise my morning coffee to you!) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfirwin3 Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Fred Windish said: Absolutely brilliant analysis of the path drum corps has chosen. We aren't in Kansas anymore, Toto! (I raise my morning coffee to you!) Can't argue with that... Except to say that it is equally rewarded by fans. Judges ARE fans. We create too much of a divide between the judges and fans... one that I don't believe really exists. Edited July 2, 2017 by cfirwin3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommynev Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 10 hours ago, arabica said: I think corps are only just beginning to explore the range of visual possibilities unencumbered by years of living their corps-specific "brand", based their use of [mostly] military-derived uniforms. Unsurprisingly, these uniforms, as well as the military roots from which the activity evolved, informed the predominant style of movement: highly-regimented marching. As the color guard activity evolved over the past 30-40 years - where once-taboo dance and themed costuming have now become standard - these same elements have gradually migrated into the visual repertoire of hornline and drumline, from simple horn and body moves at key impact points to the near-constant, highly-coordinated sequences we often see today. So where are we now? Now that several corps are eschewing the overarching "brand" of their corps proper uniform for attire tied to each year's specific production, brass and drums - like the guard before them - are no longer constrained to move in the same fashion as before. There is fast becoming a breakdown in the lines between guard, hornline, and drumline where the whole ensemble can contribute visually, in-character, to the show. This seems to be what is rewarded by judges today. And to your point - why is this difficult...why is this excellent? Well...why are there technical and lyric components to a brass audition? Why do we crave the ebb and flow of a gorgeous ballad followed by the raucous aggression of a highly-technical percussion feature? The diversity of programming creates interest and intrigue. Opening up the brass and drummmers to such possibilities demonstrates a broader range of skills that - when properly applied and mastered - raises the possible level of excellence. The problem is that no matter how much movement training the horn and percussion players receive they will never look as polished as the guard. It always comes off as slightly goofy. Name a show where the body movement of the corps outshined the drill. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarWasOverrated Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 On 7/1/2017 at 6:54 AM, Cappybara said: Good lord. Just stop. Atleast put some effort into it DCP deserves no effort. Just here on smoke breaks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxfreq1128 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 On 7/2/2017 at 9:36 AM, tommynev said: The problem is that no matter how much movement training the horn and percussion players receive they will never look as polished as the guard. It always comes off as slightly goofy. Name a show where the body movement of the corps outshined the drill. Cavaliers, 2002, "Fight Club." But ONLY because being tough was already a huge part of the Cavies' persona to begin with, and the Fight Club was just an extension of that. They weren't being graceful or anything—they were being cool. It worked. Most times, I agree, it's corny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideways Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 On July 2, 2017 at 9:36 AM, tommynev said: The problem is that no matter how much movement training the horn and percussion players receive they will never look as polished as the guard. It always comes off as slightly goofy. Name a show where the body movement of the corps outshined the drill. Star '93 I'd say the drill and movement were on par. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cappybara Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 5 hours ago, StarWasOverrated said: Just here on smoke breaks. Smoking kills, stay safe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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