xandandl Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 1 minute ago, BlueStainGlass said: Or maybe the guards are inconsistent night to night and judges are actually judging what's upfront of them :o the veracity of your observation still does not negate the truth of my suggestion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCI-86 Posted July 27, 2017 Author Share Posted July 27, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, BlueStainGlass said: Or maybe the guards are inconsistent night to night and judges are actually judging what's upfront of them :o I think that would be true if they were all doing the same thing / or we still had the tick system - so that any one night one group would jump and then drop but that is not the case. They have vastly different books/staging/concepts and the judges are judging them in vastly different ways (IMHO) Edited July 27, 2017 by DCI-86 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mingusmonk Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 (edited) 49 minutes ago, DCI-86 said: Most WGI judges steer clear of judging DCI! Of the 35 judges that worked DCI finals week, 19 are currently listed on the WGI.ORG judges pages. This does not account for those that have judged WGI in the past but are not on the current roster. Of course some DCI judges are not allowed to be judging WGI because they are teaching groups in WGI. Edited July 27, 2017 by mingusmonk updated numbers. Missed one WGI judge. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mingusmonk Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 (edited) Documentation. https://www.wgi.org/judges-perc.php https://www.wgi.org/judges-winds.php https://www.wgi.org/judges.php General Effect 1: Michael Gray & Mickey Kelly General Effect 2: Mark Waymire WGI & Glenn Fugett Visual Performance: Juno Orefice Visual Analysis: Ken Giese WGI Color Guard: Michael Lentz Brass Performance: Ronnie Rios Music Analysis: Randy Greenwell WGI Field Percussion: Jeff Prosperie WGI Ensemble Percussion: Todd Fox WGI Chief Judge: George Olivero WGI World Championship Semifinals — Friday, August 12 General Effect 1: Ted Wemhoff WGI & Mike Stone WGI General Effect 2: Nola Jones WGI & Darrin Davis Visual Performance: Michael Turner WGI Visual Analysis: Sal Adamo Color Guard: Michael Thompson WGI Brass Performance: Paul McGarr Music Analysis: David Carbone WGI Field Percussion: Jeff Ausdemore Ensemble Percussion: Alan Dunn Chief Judge: John Phillips World Championship Finals — Saturday, August 13 General Effect 1: Lee Carlson & John Howell WGI General Effect 2: Caleb Rothe WGI & John Bell Visual Performance: Bret Mascaro WGI Visual Analysis: Frank Miller WGI Color Guard: William Chumley WGI Brass Performance: Wayne Dillon WGI Music Analysis: Gary Markham Field Percussion: Mike Leitzke Ensemble Percussion: Gifford Howarth WGI Chief Judge: John Phillips Edited July 27, 2017 by mingusmonk Missed Randy Greenwell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjordansc Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 All I know is if Robert Solomon is judging, I am taking the over on the BAC and Blue Stars guard scores. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCI-86 Posted July 27, 2017 Author Share Posted July 27, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, mingusmonk said: Documentation. https://www.wgi.org/judges-perc.php https://www.wgi.org/judges-winds.php https://www.wgi.org/judges.php General Effect 1: Michael Gray & Mickey Kelly General Effect 2: Mark Waymire WGI & Glenn Fugett Visual Performance: Juno Orefice Visual Analysis: Ken Giese WGI Color Guard: Michael Lentz Brass Performance: Ronnie Rios Music Analysis: Randy Greenwell WGI Field Percussion: Jeff Prosperie WGI Ensemble Percussion: Todd Fox WGI Chief Judge: George Olivero WGI World Championship Semifinals — Friday, August 12 General Effect 1: Ted Wemhoff WGI & Mike Stone WGI General Effect 2: Nola Jones WGI & Darrin Davis Visual Performance: Michael Turner WGI Visual Analysis: Sal Adamo Color Guard: Michael Thompson WGI Brass Performance: Paul McGarr Music Analysis: David Carbone WGI Field Percussion: Jeff Ausdemore Ensemble Percussion: Alan Dunn Chief Judge: John Phillips World Championship Finals — Saturday, August 13 General Effect 1: Lee Carlson & John Howell WGI General Effect 2: Caleb Rothe WGI & John Bell Visual Performance: Bret Mascaro WGI Visual Analysis: Frank Miller WGI Color Guard: William Chumley WGI Brass Performance: Wayne Dillon WGI Music Analysis: Gary Markham Field Percussion: Mike Leitzke Ensemble Percussion: Gifford Howarth WGI Chief Judge: John Phillips Great research but this discussion is about judges who judge guard not other captions. Edited July 27, 2017 by DCI-86 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mingusmonk Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 (edited) Just now, DCI-86 said: Sorry. The discussion is about judges who judge guard not other captions. OK. 2 out of the 3 judges for the week judge WGI. The one that does not cannot because he teaches WGI. Edited July 27, 2017 by mingusmonk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xandandl Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 1 minute ago, DCI-86 said: Sorry. The discussion is about judges who judge guard not other captions. Chumley, Thompson, Lentz does Onyx. Gray certainly involved in WGI guards. Ditto on Kelly whose Skylarks even started the thing. I take it you judge T&P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCI-86 Posted July 27, 2017 Author Share Posted July 27, 2017 Just now, mingusmonk said: OK. 2 out of the 3 judges for the week judge WGI. The one that does not cannot because he teaches WGI. What week are you talking about? Because that is not true of this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mingusmonk Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Give me a few minutes and I will do a more comprehensive guard-only look at the official DCI 2016/17 season judge listings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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