glory Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 2 hours ago, cixelsyd said: At one point, there were six corps under the YEA! umbrella. No room to retain staff talent? No one in the history of the activity has ever had more room than that! At one point? As in ancient history? YEA has had but a single DCI corps for more than a decade. Even when Crossmen were part of YEA, the scoundrels around here were squawking daily about preserving the separate identity and ... yes ... staff of Crossmen. The point being: Cadets senior staff was as consistent as nearly any in the recent drum corps past. Last year was the exception, not the rule. In fact, if what's been reported here is is correct, most of the Cadets senior staff will be back again this year. HH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xandandl Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Mods, Could this be one of those threads that would be split, between talk about Cadets and the talk about bandos, GH hate, and other peripheries? Thank you. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim K Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 24 minutes ago, xandandl said: Mods, Could this be one of those threads that would be split, between talk about Cadets and the talk about bandos, GH hate, and other peripheries? Thank you. I agree this thread has gone off topic, but I would say a split thread is not the answer if it is going to be a spew more venom on George Hopkins. Critiques are one thing, especially where GH puts himself out there so much on social media, and in some cases the anger may be justified for those who love the Cadets and are concerned about what they see. When it comes to a board with more authority, business folks advising, and allowing the creative team to create, I agree, but some comments are pretty off base, and in a few cases I wonder if they know all that much about the director or corps. This is not unique to the Cadets threat or DCP, it is what happens when we can comment anonymously on the Internet. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cixelsyd Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 42 minutes ago, glory said: At one point? As in ancient history? YEA has had but a single DCI corps for more than a decade. Even when Crossmen were part of YEA, the scoundrels around here were squawking daily about preserving the separate identity and ... yes ... staff of Crossmen. Yet, the Crossmen staff had a complete turnover anyway. Point remains, if anyone has ever had places to nurture and retain staff, it would be the Cadets. They still do today (Cadets2). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HockeyDad Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, xandandl said: Just like DCP posters assert past scores having nothing to do with tomorrow's performance, past dislikes of Hopkins should not have anything to do with the current stance toward 2018 mms. If one is fair and not revengeful. Some people can understand comments directed toward GH and/or his behaviors are not directed at mms. Edited October 17, 2017 by HockeyDad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glory Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 25 minutes ago, cixelsyd said: Yet, the Crossmen staff had a complete turnover anyway. Point remains, if anyone has ever had places to nurture and retain staff, it would be the Cadets. They still do today (Cadets2). You're not serious. Instead of joining staff at Crown or Bluecoats, they should aim their career instead at a DCA corps. No. At best, thoughtless stupidity. At worst, more of the slanderous, negative double standard that permeates this thread and this board. HH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xandandl Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 8 minutes ago, HockeyDad said: Some people can understand comments directed toward GH and/or his behaviors are not directed at mms. Are you stalking my comments again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barneveld Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 1 hour ago, xandandl said: but that supposed umbrella was so short lived that most folks don't even remember it coming out of the umbrella stand. There's a difference between reality which persists and something that exists only in one CEO's fantasy kingdom. Just like DCP posters assert past scores having nothing to do with tomorrow's performance, past dislikes of Hopkins should not have anything to do with the current stance toward 2018 mms. If one is fair and not revengeful. xandandl - I believe the response from Fran Haring accurately describes the feelings of most DCP'ers and addresses your concerns (highlighted above) about the 2018 mm's. On 10/13/2017 at 8:28 AM, Fran Haring said: I don't know of anyone here... or anywhere... who is rooting for the Cadets to go under. Some folks are rooting for a change in administration... which they feel will actually help the Cadets grow stronger. Big difference between "hoping a corps folds" and "hoping a corps makes some changes." 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cixelsyd Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 1 hour ago, glory said: You're not serious. Instead of joining staff at Crown or Bluecoats, they should aim their career instead at a DCA corps. No. At best, thoughtless stupidity. At worst, more of the slanderous, negative double standard that permeates this thread and this board. HH Your derisive attitude towards the Cadets2 program (and DCA corps in general) is where the thoughtless negativity is found. The three other organizations who run a second corps have all identified/developed/retained key staff by having them work with that second corps program. Cadets2 presents a similar opportunity for the YEA! organization. Nothing slanderous about that. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Dixon Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 On 10/16/2017 at 10:02 AM, Jeff Ream said: ok so then a question....why arent the Cadets doing more to keep that talent at home? Oh like out bid BD? I'm guessing you know the answer to that question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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