CrownBariDad Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 22 minutes ago, Liahona said: According to flomarching.com here are the ageout numbers. http://www.flomarching.com/article/61472-which-corps-has-the-most-open-spots-for-2018 "With many more people finishing out their marching careers in World Class, the average number of age-outs in World Class corps was 32. Even more interesting is that the average number of age-outs in the Finalists corps is 42, with a total of 509 age-outs between the top 12 corps." Corps # of Age-Outs The Academy 45 Blue Devils 60 Blue Knights 35 Blue Stars 40 Bluecoats 54 Boston Crusaders 36 The Cadets 45 Carolina Crown 45 The Cavaliers 43 Colts 25 Crossmen 20 Jersey Surf 20 Genesis 9 Madison Scouts 30 Mandarins 13 Oregon Crusaders 22 Pacific Crest 17 Phantom Regiment 45 Pioneer 12 Seattle Cascades 21 Santa Clara Vanguard 56 Spirit of Atlanta 25 Troopers 22 I was looking for their source for these numbers. DCP maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liahona Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, CrownBariDad said: I was looking for their source for these numbers. DCP maybe? I don't think so. The numbers at DCP have been fairly close sans cavaliers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertrat68 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 I'm not sure where they got their numbers but The Academy had 21. And yes, I'm sure of the number. Of course they also had many who aged out with other corps so that might be were they got 45 for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim K Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 The numbers are interesting, or at least I find them interesting. I'm not surprised at some, namely BD and SCV who always seem to have a number of age outs and do not have trouble recruiting talented new members. BAC and Cadets surprised me a bit. It did not look like either had that many participate in the age out ceremony, though that is a rough count at best, but I thought that with both corps, the youth was often stressed. For some of the corps that place lower, the smaller number of age outs may be encouraging, but these are also corps that tend to lose members to higher placing corps. The numbers that do alarm me are Blue Stars and Phantom. I've really enjoyed Blue Stars the past few years and hoped fewer age outs might put them in a better position next year. Phantom has been struggling a bit the past few years, so recruiting may be a bit more difficult for them, not so difficult they'll fall from finals, but will they recruit enough talent to give upward momentum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBLUE Posted September 9, 2017 Author Share Posted September 9, 2017 12 hours ago, Liahona said: I don't think so. The numbers at DCP have been fairly close sans cavaliers... 12 hours ago, Liahona said: Multiple pictures on social media as well as those posted by the Cavaliers on Facebook are showing 33. While the pics may be wrong I would find it odd the the cavaliers would post a pic captioned "thanks to all the age outs", and be missing 10 members from the pic. At finals I remember counting the number from the stands as well, and was surprised it was in the low thirties. Id attach the pic if I knew how, but it's right there on the Facebook page dated August 12th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liahona Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, GREENBLUE said: Multiple pictures on social media as well as those posted by the Cavaliers on Facebook are showing 33. While the pics may be wrong I would find it odd the the cavaliers would post a pic captioned "thanks to all the age outs", and be missing 10 members from the pic. At finals I remember counting the number from the stands as well, and was surprised it was in the low thirties. Id attach the pic if I knew how, but it's right there on the Facebook page dated August 12th. I trust your counts. Who knows where flomarching sourced their info..besides they had blue devils winning with 100 + points...haha Edited September 9, 2017 by Liahona Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 (edited) 9 hours ago, desertrat68 said: I'm not sure where they got their numbers but The Academy had 21. And yes, I'm sure of the number. Of course they also had many who aged out with other corps so that might be were they got 45 for them. You may be correct, since you may have had a child march with them, but how does a corps have "many who aged out with other corps"? A mm ages out with the last corps they marched with when they are no longer eligible to march DCI, even if they spent several years with a previous corps. Edited September 9, 2017 by Ghost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim K Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 5 hours ago, Liahona said: I trust your counts. Who knows where flomarching sourced their info..besides they had blue devils winning with 100 + points...haha In another thread, people disputed the accuracy of attendance numbers at finals going back to the 70's. Maybe Flomarching provided those numbers too. PS: Do any iPad or iPhone users have spell checks that want to change Flomarching to Florida March? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 3 hours ago, Ghost said: You may be correct, since you may have had a child march with them, but how does a corps have "many who aged out with other corps"? A mm ages out with the last corps they marched with when they are no longer eligible to march DCI, even if they spent several years with a previous corps. Since the person is defined by the organization they aged-out of, or 'retired' from, that makes Joe Montana a Chief not a 49er, and Emmitt Smith a Cardinal not a Cowboy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrownBariDad Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 4 hours ago, Stu said: Since the person is defined by the organization they aged-out of, or 'retired' from, that makes Joe Montana a Chief not a 49er, and Emmitt Smith a Cardinal not a Cowboy. And pro players will often sign a short term contract with their "old" team in order to retire on that roster. I don't think they do that in DCI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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