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31 minutes ago, Stu said:

Here is the humor in this chatter:

When all judges come from the same academic/DCI/MB experiencial mold, have the same training, the same musical and artistic value sets, look at the sheets in the same way (which is what DCI desires), the adjudicating results will be consistent; but then they are looked upon as slotting corps and/or in collusion with one another...... On the other hand, when qualified judges come from different experiences outside of academic/DCI/MB (say the commercial side), are trained differently, have different musical and artistic value sets, look at the sheets differently, and score differently from the cookie-cutter crew, they are deemed incompetent. So much so that if Wynton was secured as a guest judge, but scored brass differently than all other DCI Brass judges, even he would likely be deemed incompetent. But such is life in the bubble called the marcing arts.

 

Judge with zero experience would do a bad job judging. Both surprising AND hilarious. 

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One of these years:

The "Olympics" judging proposal:  Every caption will have six judges with the lowest and highest scores thrown out.  The others are averaged.

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3 hours ago, Ghost said:

Normally, but B uses a 24 hour clock he picked up in England.

 Big Ben. Man, it was heavy too.

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If the proposal to increase the number of corps making Finals to 15 were to pass, I wonder what the price increase for Finals tickets would be.

Finals tickets are already pretty pricey for any seats between the 10s, let alone if there is a 25% increase in the number of corps performing that night.

Would we see Finals tickets close to $200 each for any worthwhile seat?

Also, wouldn’t the cutoff for the number of corps in the theater broadcast on Thursday night have to change as well?  What would be the price increase for those tickets?

Not to mention that unless you allow all corps to make Finals (or no corps to make Finals), you are always going to have someone feeling slighted.  Instead of the 13th place corps being upset and possibly crying foul, now you will have the 16th place corps being upset and possibly crying foul.  Then when they vote to increase Finals to 18, you will have the 19th place corps being upset and possibly crying foul...

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39 minutes ago, jeffmolnar said:

If anything, less corps should be making finals these days given how few corps even exist.

 

 6 will never happen.

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23 hours ago, mingusmonk said:

 

Judge with zero experience would do a bad job judging. Both surprising AND hilarious. 

Within DCI there has never been a judge secured with zero experience. There have been judges with opinions that differ from the cookie-cutter norm, and they have been deemed incompetent; but they were still experienced professionals. And that is my point; judges who think alike, act alike, judge alike, which is what DCI desires, will automatically 'slot' alike. And those who see things differently, though experienced, will be deemed incompetent because they do not slot corps in the same order as the cookie-cutters. That is the marching arts bubble.

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3 hours ago, Stu said:

Within DCI there has never been a judge secured with zero experience. There have been judges with opinions that differ from the cookie-cutter norm, and they have been deemed incompetent; but they were still experienced professionals. And that is my point; judges who think alike, act alike, judge alike, which is what DCI desires, will automatically 'slot' alike. And those who see things differently, though experienced, will be deemed incompetent because they do not slot corps in the same order as the cookie-cutters. That is the marching arts bubble.

 

Human Resources doesn't go looking for people that aren't qualified and cannot meet the job description. This is for a reason. I'm in IT. If somebody can run circles around everyone as a Java programmer, that doesn't qualify them to be an enterprise Microsoft Exchange administrator. Both IT. But not nearly the same job. People with commensurate experience are hired to match a job description. And even after that, they are trained to do the exact job properly. 

 

This is what you are describing as some kind of issue. How is that a problem?  You want a different judge approach? Rewrite the sheets.

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1 hour ago, wigwam said:

So when will there be a decision on which changes, if any, will be adopted?

Winter Meeting and Rules Congress is Jan 5th - Jan 7th at Hyatt Hotel in Indianapolis. 

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