jeffmolnar Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 44 minutes ago, Tommeee said: Maybe you should tell us why you disagree with the subject of the thread? Just because you disagree, doesn’t mean the conversation should be silenced. Your funny bone is broken. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brassboy Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 26 minutes ago, George Dixon said: Meanwhile judges are awarding these behaviors and telling other corps to "turn it up" (meaning the brass line or the amp) and "we've got this musical thought, move onto the next" which happens in about 30 seconds of a song starting Do you have actual verification of this, or is this just hyperbole? In my 10 years instructing, I had never once heard a judge actually say a corps needed to be louder. What I HAVE heard is the need to make moments more effective by having more contrast. So if a line isn't very loud (either due to size or ability), then bring down the lower end of the dynamic range to create the illusion of actual volume. Sometimes this would be in the context of "Yes, you are not as loud as Corps B, but you can still be as effective." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluzes Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 5 hours ago, FTNK said: Brass lines these days have 3 volumes -- f, ff, and mic'd soloist (half the time with the amp volume too loud). Agree and now we have right/left/center/back balance from the speakers. R/L balance has been a life long issue for me constantly evaluating my home stereos and ears, can't go 10 feet in my house w/o running into another Bose system so I can blast my music w/o wife complaining. I help out record stores downtown when systems come in for resale. It's what I do drum corps has always been my ultimate ear test, not any more and I despise doctors but now need them for ear tests.. Was at a show last week where a nameless corps had their line arrays set up on the 30, was sitting on 47 to the left and could not hear anything from the far array even in the low points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Dixon Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 17 minutes ago, brassboy said: Do you have actual verification of this, or is this just hyperbole? In my 10 years instructing, I had never once heard a judge actually say a corps needed to be louder. What I HAVE heard is the need to make moments more effective by having more contrast. So if a line isn't very loud (either due to size or ability), then bring down the lower end of the dynamic range to create the illusion of actual volume. Sometimes this would be in the context of "Yes, you are not as loud as Corps B, but you can still be as effective." curious if you instructed DCI during the recent amplification wars? the past couple seasons things have changed dramatically & corps are hearing a lot of feedback on mic solos, "reinforcement" through amplification etc... I completely agree with everything else you are saying - if you're not "as loud" then play softer and use more solos and small ensembles to make the big moments seem even bigger (and frankly they will be with that approach lol) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brassboy Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, George Dixon said: curious if you instructed DCI during the recent amplification wars? the past couple seasons things have changed dramatically & corps are hearing a lot of feedback on mic solos, "reinforcement" through amplification etc... I completely agree with everything else you are saying - if you're not "as loud" then play softer and use more solos and small ensembles to make the big moments seem even bigger (and frankly they will be with that approach lol) No, I instructed pre-electronics. But asking corps to fix their balance of electronics to acoustics is not the same as asking a corps to turn it louder to BE louder. Edited July 23, 2018 by brassboy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimF-LowBari Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 40 minutes ago, jeffmolnar said: Your funny bone is broken. Maybe your sarcasm emoji is broken as can’t tell either way 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fran Haring Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Sideways said: mf = turn backfield LOL... reminds me of a long-gone era, pre-DCI, when there were basically two volume levels... 1) facing the front stands, and 2) facing backfield. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideways Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Fran Haring said: LOL... reminds me of a long-gone era, pre-DCI, when there were basically two volume levels... 1) facing the front stands, and 2) facing backfield. The tried and true method of extending a brass line's "dynamic range" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffmolnar Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, JimF-LowBari said: Maybe your sarcasm emoji is broken as can’t tell either way Well the ban thing was a joke, but I'm fully in the "play loud" camp. I remember suffering through the years of other groups trying to emulate The Cavaliers' boring sound from the early 2000's. Ugh. Never again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluzes Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Just now, Fran Haring said: 1) facing the front stands, and 2) facing backfield Correct and I would add off the line and ending end zone. I play Skyliners just nailing it off the line and new fans today can't believe they were that far from the field mic's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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