MusicManNJ Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, Lance said: it's the same attitude i see from veteran teachers and administrators in public education. they'd rather hire somebody with a proven history of knowing what they're doing than take a chance on having to train somebody who becomes needy. You are obviously not from New Jersey. They look to hire the cheapest teachers on the pay scale. Experience? Nah... Just save a few grand by getting someone lower on the pay ladder. Edited August 18, 2018 by MusicManNJ spelling 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xandandl Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 10 minutes ago, MusicManNJ said: You are obviously not from New Jersey. They look to hire the cheapest teachers on the pay scale. Experience? Nah... Just save a few grand by getting someone lower on the ay ladder. and in NY and CT, they are bound by seniority clauses...no matter how (in)effective the teacher is today; therefore, much dead wood still floating and few spots for new teachers. New college Music Ed and Music performance teachers mass migrate to Texas and Florida the day after graduation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicManNJ Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Just now, xandandl said: and in NY and CT, they are bound by seniority clauses...no matter how (in)effective the teacher is today; therefore, much dead wood still floating and few spots for new teachers. New college Music Ed and Music performance teachers mass migrate to Texas and Florida the day after graduation. Send some our way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 33 minutes ago, MusicManNJ said: You are obviously not from New Jersey. They look to hire the cheapest teachers on the pay scale. Experience? Nah... Just save a few grand by getting someone lower on the pay ladder. glad i don't teach there our hiring committees never even have to consider that when deciding who to hire for a position Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soccerguy315 Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 On 8/16/2018 at 1:29 PM, Nine White Russians said: Boerma just announced he is resigning from the Scouts. :( maybe Crossmen should give him a call? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluzes Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 44 minutes ago, MusicManNJ said: You are obviously not from New Jersey Being FROM New Jersey is the best thing that ever happed to us. A great place to be from, gives you excuses for all kinds of bad behavior that is not tolerated elsewhere. Get out when your young. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeD Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 6 hours ago, Bluzes said: 1), I go back to the 60's when the baby boomers filled the corps there were more of us = more corps 2). I go back to the 60's where their would be less corps showing up for nationals than we had this year in Indy. Got to show up to be counted in my book. Half Full or Half Empty How wonderful it is to have all these corps today. Your not missing anything. The youth today didn't need to be Boomers!!!!! Look at VFW Nats from 64-70, 1st place through 4th place. Of the 28 available slots, 27 of them were filled by the same 6 corps. Heck, the Cavies and Troopers themselves filled 13 of them in that timeframe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 2 hours ago, MusicManNJ said: You are obviously not from New Jersey. They look to hire the cheapest teachers on the pay scale. Experience? Nah... Just save a few grand by getting someone lower on the pay ladder. 2 hours ago, xandandl said: and in NY and CT, they are bound by seniority clauses...no matter how (in)effective the teacher is today; therefore, much dead wood still floating and few spots for new teachers. New college Music Ed and Music performance teachers mass migrate to Texas and Florida the day after graduation. Wonder who the teacher's union supports in most elections? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluzes Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 1 minute ago, MikeD said: Look at VFW Nats from 64-70, 1st place through 4th place. Of the 28 available slots, 27 of them were filled by the same 6 corps. Heck, the Cavies and Troopers themselves filled 13 of them in that timeframe. Yes I seen that the "more corps theory" is in question? However the myth that the corps practice more today is in doubt as well. 1) The season was a month and a half longer 2) Corps practiced 2 week nights year round. 3) Winter Drill Occurred on the Weekends - Inside the Armories, YMCA's or just outside in the Cold. 4) Held a Spring Camp around work schedules Add it all up vs cramming everything into the tour and a few camps and there may not be much difference? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeD Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 6 minutes ago, Bluzes said: Yes I seen that the "more corps theory" is in question? However the myth that the corps practice more today is in doubt as well. 1) The season was a month and a half longer 2) Corps practiced 2 week nights year round. 3) Winter Drill Occurred on the Weekends - Inside the Armories, YMCA's or just outside in the Cold. 4) Held a Spring Camp around work schedules Add it all up vs cramming everything into the tour and a few camps and there may not be much difference? Be interesting to do the math and see what happens. Certainly today, with move-in and spring training, the time is more focused and dedicated to just doing drum corps. We had scholastic and other things happening back in the pre-DCI day that also required focus and time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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