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  2. Omni, Marriott, Crown Plaza, Hilton, Hyatt are all great. Though the Alexander is hip, it's near noisy, screeching train tracks. The Sheraton has great views overlooking Monument Circle. Embassy Suites is above the former DCI HQ. All of these are walkable to Lucas Oil. La Quinta is probably one of the longest walks from the stadium, but it's near a Whole Foods grocery and the city's bus transit center.
  3. This thread is still going?!?!?! Over 1500? I guess it's offseason. (Yes I recognize the hypocrisy and irony of me adding to this thread 😎)
  4. size doesnt equal quality. Sure i'd love more corps. But I don't want 25 good ones and 100 not good ones
  5. Drum Corps as we know it is dying. We know that based on the number of corps that existed in the era I’m referring to versus today. Some of the causes of are unavoidable; demographic changes, change in attitude towards religion, patriotism, etc. On the other hand, some of the causes are self-inflicted by the governing body of DCI and could have been prevented. I mentioned those in my original post. It's not about "good ole days" or "selective memory", it's about sustaining an activity for the greater good and not to placate the egos of a select few.
  6. Dci.org/indyhotels has a few option still available. We’ve stayed at the Hampton Inn and Embassy Suites downtown. Most hotels downtown are within walking distance.
  7. Well said!!! (I shortened the quote just to save some space.) Similar situation with the local junior corps I was in from NJ. The corps was sponsored by a church... part of the corps' official name was that of the church (Sacred Heart Crusaders). But, as you've said with the Boston situations, the sponsorship, from I recall, did not involve the church giving the corps any money. We did get a rehearsal space, and a place to park cars when we were on the road for a weekend... but no, or minimal, money. We raised cash through various fundraisers. I remember "tag day" was a big one for us, since a lot of folks in the town we were from knew about the corps, so they reached for their wallets.
  8. So... you're saying that there weren't 30,000 fans in that 20,000-seat stadium???
  9. I would never want these kids to travel on the vehicles we did. And proper hydration wasn’t even on the radar. Truth is, I could live without the proppery but I’m very happy for the safety and health of the members that is addressed now.
  10. would love to hear mellos and low brass for crown or bk or anybody go after this:
  11. I’m finally going to finals for the first time! I’m looking to book a hotel room ahead. Any recommendations? Thanks!!
  12. Isn’t that the truth! Remember when is the lowest form of conversation.
  13. Yep never thought I’d see “Sr” corps worrying about nutrition, stretching and strengthening after my years in the 70s/80s. Now I think “wish the #### we had done that bitd”...
  14. Yesterday
  15. Frank was special and not just in name. So often he was bigger than life and yet in his own often quiet or colorful way. I remember one time I was invited out to Cavies' winter camp. Adolph told me Frank would pick me up at O'Hare Airport. My plane arrived late in snowy Chicago and I walked out of the building to the appointed spot. I was used to seeing Frank in tee shirt and shorts (summer tour gear.) There he was in his police uniform with his police cruiser. He put me in the front seat (to make sure no one had the wrong idea.) But in the short ride from one side of the airport to the Rosemont school, an alarm came across the police radio about an attempted bank robbery. As Frank's was the nearest car, he turned on the siren and the bubble light and off we went. He had me cowering under the dashboard when we drove into the bank lot as he exited with a drawn gun. No shots were fired, but I didn't need any bullets. He had much fun sharing with the corps after camp how I was cowering for a false alarm. May St. Peter grant him a special seat in the heavenly convoy and may he have the reward of all his great deeds for the Cavies, his family, Rosemont, and so many others. We lost a very good man.
  16. Ever consider if not for todays drum corps there would be nothing? Extinction and insisting the world wasn't changing in many cases was the exact reason many corps fell by the wayside back in the glory days. Ever consider those who survived had insight in every way to preserve the activity? I would love the good ole days sometimes also BUT I would also like to pay 30cents for gas ,again...not gonna happen Also as far as how the mms eat and travel today, We were death traps on the road in many cases. AGAIN the world has changed and maybe we got a little smarter in some ways? I hope so anyway. The good ole days will always be something special to look back on The good ole days are part of who we are today The good ole days should always be respected because if not for those people we wouldn't have a thing today The good ole days are also often about selective memory🙂
  17. Hey, you didn't even mention the other ball in the air in the juggling which is mentoring those student teachers who live with Matt and his family while they all teach at Avon High. Can you even imagine what the energy must have been when Kevin LeBoeuf lived there?!?!?!?
  18. Would love to see the background story as went thru those kinds of changes (minus a drum corps) with my old church. Was on council as we (finally) studied what was going on and why we could do little about it. Church closed last year after 125 years
  19. I'm in a unique position to comment on both of these posts. For one, while I was still a college and then graduate student and a drum corps and color guard judging apprentice, I worked with the Boston CYO office under Mons. Bob McNeill as a moderator in discussions between the smaller CYO/EMass/Yankee circuit drum corps and the parishes who "sponsored" them; what "sponsorship" entailed differed from unit to unit, the only common denominator is that at some point the signature of the pastor of the parish (who is also canonically and civilly an officer of the corporation of the local parish church) was scribed on documents recorded with the CYO office and the unit was allowed to use the parish or parish school name. Sometimes there was a small contribution from the parish to the unit; not always. Sometimes the unit was allowed to practice on/in parish/parish school property; sometimes the utilities used for those practices and the insurance covering the unit's practices and activities were covered in the parish budget, but not always. Some units had to pay for what they used. It differed place to place from the perspective of the unit, the clergy, the parishioners, the schools. Most units had to raise the majority of their funds apart from the sponsorships of these parishes and schools. As the demographics of parishes changed in urban areas to suburban areas, as costs of parish schools (particularly with increasing number of lay faculty who had to be paid a true salary and benefits compared to what was "paid" to the groups of teaching Sisters, Brothers, and order priests prior) the mission (statement goals and protocols to use current terms) did not always view drill teams, bands, winter guards and drum corps (of various levels) as best options for that mission fulfillment. And the mission statements of these marching units also changed during the years prior and after the formation of DCI and WGI. Sometimes it was a clash of personalities, sometimes a clash of budgets, sometimes merely a difference in philosophies and applications. The Archdiocese of Boston eventually closed a number of parishes, merged others, re-constituted or re-purposed some as the neighborhood changed (new immigrations, urban to suburban shifts, economic shifts in some neighborhoods.) Immaculate Conception and St. Anthony's, both of Revere and Blessed Sacrament of Cambridge are examples of parishes that changed greatly and the marching arts as an option saw different histories. Certainly a doctoral dissertation or two awaits for future study and publication all that went on in the Boston Archdiocese during these decades of Church and "marching arts." Believe it or not, sometimes one way I united the differing drum corps and clergy was in their joint "disdain" of having the moderator of the discussion be a "New Yawkah." Oh,when I write my memoirs... 🙂 In New Jersey, the story has an official version, several unofficial versions, much rumor, much confusion, much personality and personalities, some of them characters. I agree with MikeD, an alumnus of the corps, that the previous poster makes conclusions without all the facts. Some of those facts are only now coming to light as years pass and historical archives grant access, the Archdiocese of Newark had resumed leadership of the parish after several decades where the Franciscans, known for their vow of poverty, ministered in Garfield and where the current pastor of the church has done a yeoman's job of welcoming the corps in the dozen years he has been there; in fact he extended to the corps several levels of involvement which GH declined. A definitive history of the split, the perspectives, the hurts, and the reunions would be another doctoral dissertation that won't see the light of day until all parties have passed. But one of the five reasons given to me by Drs. Cinzio and Santo, (both alums of the corps and directors of the corps and one who raised his family in that same parish) when they invited me to be part of the corps staff was to help ease that reunion, a hope that never faded in their understanding of the corps and in the understanding of so many of the mms and alums. It is part of the reason I made a special effort to obtain and post the photos of the recent memorial Mass (10/13/19.) The corps is/was/and hopefully will continue to be more than merely singular characters whether clergy or laity. Past histories can't be undone; parishes change, drum corps as an activity has changed, and people hopefully grow. These times and people are different in ways that challenge still.
  20. I do sort of agree that with the new prop centric dci, the corps with $$$ definitely have the advantage. And PRs props have always looked like something I built (I suck at building) Good news is that the corps is no longer in the financial rut that they were, largely thanks to Rick V. It doesn't mean they have loads of cash to throw around, but I'm happy they are in a more comfortable place financially.
  21. If you look at the props put out by the Regiment last year, they were, at best, unsophisticated, at worst, fairly useless. Do I like that corps need two semi's to carry props? NO! However, that appears to be the current trend successfully being used by the top corps.
  22. The lack of money, IMO, definitely equates to placement, and I am not proposing slotting nor do I expect them to 'win' in 2020. I would love for them to be a threat for a top 3 finish, but for that to happen, many things would have to go right, including someone in the current crop of top corps to stumble. I just don't see that happening.
  23. It is a new year, but I listed last years finals scores as a reply to show the corps who finished ahead of PR are also striving to reach top six or higher.
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