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I like what you say Charlie. It's the fundamental reason why we drive so many miles to the shows we are able to attend. Let's look at what I was able to see and enjoy last year-Kenton, Bartok, Kaman, Rimsky-Korscov, Barber, Elgar, Gershwin. Did my favorite corps win? In my mind, they all won. Hope to sit next to a fan like you at shows in the coming year. What these young folks do is remarkable.

Having been in professional performing arts non-profit management for 25 years, I kinda KNOW what "non-profit" means. And considering that the work I've produced has to compete in a major US arts market, I'm very well aware of how to strike a balance between audience appeal and artistic ambition. But it appears that YOU don't understand that the idea of having a non-profit organization is to provide services that are, by dint of their nature, non-commercial - it's about the service offered, not the "product." And the "service" that drum corps offers is about the artistic and lifeskills training that it provides the kids on the field - it's really not about you guys, no offense. Anyone who honestly thinks that with the turn of a few knobs you can turn "marching band on steroids" into the next national sensation is a few tacos short of a reality plate. If you're bored with the majority of the shows out there, then I'd submit that you're simply not really into the artform in the first place, since I don't see a material difference between the shows now and the shows 10 years ago or 20 years ago - it's still kids with horns, drums and flags. Trying to make it so that every program dumbs itself down so that Aunt Gladys knows every "song" in the program isn't going to turn it into mainstream entertainment. If you want to grow the audience for drum corps, then start more corps, since the audience is, and always has been, primarily made up of those who have marched and their friends and families. Any effort that doesn't focus on creating new forms of competition that encourage development of new corps is missing the mark.

I think the problem that exists in this conversation is that some of us seem to think that there is only one thing that the fans want. That's simply not the case. Some fans want flashy, theme driven and charismatic shows. Others like shows with more (for lack of a better term) intellectual shows. Some like crazy drill and virtuosic music. What is entertaining to some fans is boring to others. I know plenty of people who absolutely loved the Cadets show last year. On the other hand, I know plenty of people who hated it. I know plenty of people who loved SCV last year, and plenty of people who hated it. So to say DCI needs be more entertaining really means that some groups of people have decided that they want all of the top 12 shows to be exactly what they want, and that's their answer to driving ticket sales. I understand the concept of the crowd reaction, but having gone to a lot of drum corps shows with a lot of different drum corps fans, I can tell you that in my experience, the people who like shows like SCV's show from last year, aren't as vocal during shows because they are more driven by little nuances and don't want to miss those little details in the show. Others who are more into the showy flashy types of shows tend to cheer louder because they are looking for a more primal kind of experience. The fact is, some corps try to be intellectual and appeal to the nerds in the crowd. Other corps try to wow the audience and go for the more surface level reaction. Still others try to draw an audience with sheer amazing things that they can do with their instruments. There are lots of ways to design a show, and sometimes these methods work really well, and sometimes they fail. But if you really think that what you want is what the entire crowd wants, you are mistaken because DCI's audience is way too diverse to pin down exactly what entertains them. The crowds aren't there because the economy sucks, and because DCI is trying to hard to make the activity a mainstream art form, which it will never be.

was that the same limited rehearsal schedule that DCI corps had in the late 70s and early 80s? Yeah because some of those horn lines sounded all ratty and crap. It was probably the lack of rehearsal, right?

Too late. Too small/niche of an activity at this point for sugar daddy sponsors. Corporations and foundations are looking for the "most societal bang" for their philanthropic dollars. Money is going to things like women & children's health causes, education, social justice, and "green" things. The arts are hurting. What is increasingly PERCEIVED as a "rich kids' summer music program" is not going to get those dollars. Drum corps is no longer dragging kids from the street and putting a horn or drum in their hands to keep them out of trouble. That ended just about a generation ago now. A reality I experienced in trying to get sponsorships/grants for Capital Regiment a few years ago was that these donors question why they need to support what, in their eyes, is a terribly capital-wasting (pun intended) activity, if measured on a per-kid basis. They find it outragous what is spent, per kid, compared to say, an urban reading program, early childhood health programs, etc. And I completely agree with them. DCI's cost-per-member, paid instructors and show designers, transportation, instrument turnover... It is all quite obscene in the eyes of most prospective corporate supporters. Sponsors like McDonalds and Disney -- they have far more impactful things to invest their monies with. If you had, on the other hand, organizations with volunteer management and instructional staff, operated as LEAN as possible, modest fees ANY kid could come up with, and were providing something for average kids, rather than what has increasingly become a one-season resume-padder for music majors... We/you (I no longer support the DCI activity) need to take a cold look in the mirror, as an activity, and ask how in the big picture of problems in society today this (arguably) elitist activity should warrant corporate underwriting.

Bad example - how about Blue Devils 1995 and 2010? (by the way, the term "material difference" means a significant change in the tools used, the overall nature of the product, or the means used to create the product - from a material standpoint, drum corps is more or less the same as it was in the 80s and 90s; horns, drums, guard equipment, football field). Almost any of the top shows from '95 could have been done again this year and no one would have batted an eyelash because they wouldn't have seemed retro. That's my point; the activity hasn't really changed as much as some here swear that it has. Maybe some of us have just gotten older and grouchier with the passage of time.

There are many different things that make things difficult for drum corps. But IMO, the one of biggest problems in drum corps is what I read in these forums day after day. I do understand that people have their own attachment to what they think drum corps should be and we all have the right to have and voice our own opinions. But I am amazed at how much negativity about drum corps in thrown about. Every decade (or era) of drum corps gets bashed by various groups of fans...(and yes, I have been guilty of this from time to time so I am not claiming to be of higher moral standing then anyone else). So things have changed and drum corps is not the exact same thing it was when I marched....but is that really a reason to complain and throw a fit....and even some people say they would "boycott" DCI events because if synths. Some people like synths some people don't.....is that really a reason to bash the entire current state of the activity? Some people prefer mylar snare heads vs. kevlar snare heads......does that make the pre-kevlar times better or the current kevlar times better.....neither it is just different....but it is still drum corps. Multi-toms used to be 2 or 3 larger drums and nowadays the drums are are smaller and have 5 or 6....the old toms are now the size of some of the bass drums.......so does that make one era better than the other....no, its just different. Through the history of drum corps things are always adapting and evolving to the current times, it is unavoidable. One thing we don't remember is that we as a drum corps community are far from a majority of the general public. All of the negativity and bashing each other does nothing but make our numbers smaller and weaker......it has nothing to do with DCI or the individual corps.....it has more to do with us so called "fans of drum corps"......it is hard for DCI/Corps to get more community support, but it is only harder when our own drum corps community does support each other.

How many of them do you know and talk to on a regular basis? I can tell you that everyone I have met with DCI cares very much about the activity. The history and the future. If you don't believe that they care, then you are seriously misinformed, and I am sorry.

Now that's funny. Those people who are apart of drum corps are apart of it BECAUSE they care. The reason why proposals are constantly brought up is because they care. The reason why we ave a G7 or whatever is because they care. The reason we even have shows to watch every year is because people care... Now, anyone can disagree with the way that DCI and corps SHOW their commitment to the activity, (everyone has different way to care), but that doesn't mean they don't care. I guess I"m lucky enough to have a wide variety of tastes. There isn't a single show that I honestly can say I hated. There is no hot dog corps for me. I enjoy every corps and no matter what they happen to bring, I have my favorites of course, but I do not lament if a show isn't as good as my favorite. I'll do my small part to help move this activity along into the next season, but thankfully, I don't have any bitterness towards corps and the shows they create. Again, I consider myself very lucky.

One thing I hope current members understand when they read some of the post here is how little those people matter. A couple hundred thousand people love what they do...a few loud people on the internet who can't accept drum corps for what it is should not have any impact on their experience. Many of those thousands are legacy fans, by the way...just go to any show and you see a mix of dinos and young fans. Yes, it's sad that these loud complainers can't enjoy what the members do, but it's a reflection on themselves, not the current MM and designers and staff members.

If that's the case then aren't marching members also customers!? I certainly don't spend 2800+ dollars a summer to enjoy drum corps, but the members do. They are investing A lot more time and money on the activity than I would say the average audience member. DCI should ALSO be looking at why marching members still want to march drum corps. What's their entertainment standards, do they think shows are boring? Because if we're talking about survival, it seems like without members wanting to march, then things go south quicker...

IMO drum corps is a niche activity, as it has always been, but it is a good idea to mine that niche as much as possible, hence the venues and the TOC shows.

Hey guys, current member here. Reading this stuff sucks. It really does. I've got a pretty thick skin, but some of this stuff can really get at you. As someone else said, we're the ones out there performing night after night for the people in the stands. It's a bunch of kids and young adults, doing the exact same thing you were doing 20 or 30 years ago. We still go out and sweat on a football field all day, spending hours on end rehearsing the same chunk of show over, and over again, rehearsing the same passage of music until it's perfect, then going out every night under the lights and performing for the people in the stands. Give it a rest. Sure, it's not on G bugles, and it's amped, but when did everything else become different? When did the day-to-day activities start changing? When did the passion and drive to go out there day after day go away? Seriously everyone, think about it. The big logo still says DCI, the kids are still the same, it's all the same. Just let it go. People who can't accept the change and leave are the reason DCI is dying, it isn't the change, it's the people abandoning it because they can't accept the change. Someone said earlier that it's the directors that don't care about DCI, maybe it's the fans who can't stop #####ing that are the ones who don't care. Look at yourselves, and clean your own house before looking at other's. Let only he who is without sin cast the first stone.

Troll knock off fail. ^^^

You can't understand it because no one has attempted to DO that. I pointed out the logistical fallacy of your example, but you're failing to accept the inherent problems your non-workable example poses. Why not compare two shows from the era that had the same general tone? Otherwise, you're comparing a root beer float to a Cabernet, and saying "how can anyone say they're the same?", rather than listening to the person who points out how pointless THAT comparison is. Compare the '95 Devils show with the 2010 Devils show. Neither was particularly geared toward the casual fan, both were excoriated by the "I want entertainment and that's all I want" crowd. Did they both use horns? Yup. Were they performed on a football field? Yep. Drumline? Yup. Pit? Yup. Guard, dancing and doing equipment work? Yup. So the primary difference are the keys of the horns (no one cares), the fact that the pit uses amps and electronics (I don't like that change, but it's a marginal rather than a core change in presentation), and that the 2010 corps used mirrors. The musical choices were similar in tone. The visual program was (to my mind, regrettably) pretty similar. That being the case, it's reasonable to state that if the type of show some of you hated last year was also around 15 years ago, played on instruments that were simply older versions of the instruments used now, that it really hasn't changed that much. There was room for what BD did in 05, there's room for what they did last year. There was room for Madison's populist approach in 95, there was room for Madison's approach in 2010. The paint jobs are a little different but what's under the paint is much the same.

(Fixed that for you.) Tom, do you really think that kids are going to march in front of empty stands? Imagine, that big final push, blowing their guts out, jazz running to a single file right down on the sidelines, holding the final chord for 16 counts, the drum major giving a wild-arm, snappy cutoff, horns snap down...and...... <crickets> Yeah, that will make the kids really excited to play their hearts out. For what? "Cut. Print. Way to go guys and gals! The YouTube fans will really LOVE that one!" Please. How many downloads at $1.99 does it take to make up just one $125 finals ticket? Do you really think this little niche can really support that number? Sorry Tom, you're kidding yourself if you think iPhones or even the FanNetwork will supplant the fans and support the activity.

What's your point? Has even one of those millions of groups in history EVER used a brass section of the "soprano bugle" G trumpets once () used in drum corps? Could it possibly be because since they were designed for outdoor ensembles, it would be completely inappropriate?

uh yes, they are true fans. true fans of an acoustic activity

This is right on the mark. Those who dislike the current direction of drum corps are certainly entitled to that, but I think its a mistake to say that because you dont like the shows, DCI has "lost" any "mainstream" audience it once had. A) it never really had a "mainstream" audience. There were simply more corps. Were there more corps because regular people off the street thought it was awesome? No there were more corps because every church, PAL, CYO, VFW and AL post had a drum corps running and also because every kid in the country used to play an instrument. Not as much the case anymore. Look at many public high schools. Enrollments are similar, music programs are down. B) Drum Corps will never be a national sensation. Drumlines are probably as close as it will ever be with more and more sports franchises getting active drumlines to play at events. As far as mainstream society goes, ANYTHING that resembles what we do is marching band. If it has flags, drums, horns, any there is marching, then its just the band. Our friends and families will always comprise the audience. So many of the critics blame DCI's marketing strategies as well. I think they are doing pretty much what can be done to "market" drum corps. You can bring in Coke, Pepsi, Nike, AT&T and BMW's combined Marketing teams and I firmly believe there would be little to no difference in the drum corps audience. I do think the pro stadium is an awesome thing and a great experience for young people. I have had many the students in the band and indoor units I direct march in DCI and WGI and the venue is a huge part of what the like. I think a good college will be less costly and probably just as effective so I wouldnt mind if we left the pro venues, but I do see why its a good thing to be there as well.

I did a double-take upon reading this....obviously, nowhere near 95% of HS marching band kids could fit into the drum corps activity. I think what you're trying to say is that 95% of current DCI marchers have also marched in a HS band. I think DCI surveyed this, and the number wasn't THAT high....but it is certainly a majority. Me too....30 years ago. I think Darwin's theory was survival of the fittest....not survival of the one that changes most frequently. My response to your rhetoric was already embedded in your rhetoric (bolded above). Ironic example....I keep hearing that show in my house. Don't ask me what network it's on, though. I find your analogy useless. Reruns went out of style in DCI in the 1980s. Corps do whole new shows every season now. Here's a more appropriate analogy. Say ABC and their advertisers weren't satisfied with the status quo, so they sent a crew over to your place to install giant speakers in your living room, and left a crew member there with a mixing board, so that when the commercials come on, he could crank the volume level to 11. Not only will that get your attention, it will also enable people in neighboring apartments or houses to hear the commercials too. ABC and their advertisers think this is an improvement. Would you agree?

I predict that Crown will change their uniform in some way. Excuse me... I HOPE Crown will change their uniform.

In other words, we should tell the performers and audiences not to bother expanding their horizons and re-imagining the world; rather, they should embrace the lowest common denominator and admire mediocrity. === I find myself a little puzzled to see how many times this particular dead horse has been resurrected this winter on DCP, particularly since the previous season saw one of the most eclectic collections of shows from the Finalists that the activity has seen in a very long time. If you didn't like Devils' dissonance, ok - Cavaliers were playing an introspective pop tune and a pumped-up Metheny number. If Bartok was too much for you, Madison was out there with a couple of American standards. Boston was nothing like Phantom, who was nothing like Cadets, who were easily distinguished from BK. Without having hard data to prove that Finals sales were down because of the programming rather than 1. the economy, and 2. boredom with Indianapolis, it seems there's an awful lot of huffing and puffing about something that might not be a factor at all.

Mike, I can't believe you continue to hold this line of denial that synths and amps aren't doubling the bass line. You only need listen - are you losing, or have you lost, your hearing? And if you have or haven't, you only need watch the videos of the synth player in the last strains of almost every show in the last two years. He/she plants a finger on the left end of the keyboard and holds it there as the corps plays their last notes, while smiling broadly at the crowd. It's undeniable, it's audible and it's verifiable visually. Why do you deny its existence? If the members dues paid the cost of their marching as you claim, why is there at so many souvie booths a gas can and a plea to "contribute to our fuel fund"? That shouldn't be necessary if you were right, right? And if dues paid the expenses for the summer why is there an appeal by the larger corps (who, coincidentally, carry the most A&E equipment) to get more payout because their expenses aren't covered by their show payments? In your world each member's dues would cover the costs and each corps would be financially solvent. What numbers in my analysis are made up? The weights? The mileage? I acknowledge that they may not be exactly accurate, but they are hardly made up. And the point of the exercise stands valid. Just ask the truckers... Yep. They claim they can't cover their costs, but they just keep adding costs. Yep. And while it may be true that many who try out and get cut just go home, it's also true (from Persona, not my guess) that the very large percentage of "Top" corps MM have experience in Open class or non-"Top" corps. If membership were limited to 120, and corps encouraged those who are cut to go get experience in lower, and Open, corps, there would be a larger pool of semi-qualified players to fill a new corps' ranks. And I suggest you investigate the P&L of a few corps to verify that MM dues do not cover their costs for the season. If they did the corps would be self-sustaining on dues only and wouldn't need fuel fund drives, alumni drives, and general appeals for contributions. Lacking the discipline to control, and cut, costs is more detrimental to the bottom line than not having enough revenue. You may not like the math, but your one-word responses (nor your condescension) can't make it go away.

well....people pay to see what they like. and if they dont like what's being put out there, then that's their fault?? sorry I dont buy that. I'm all for supporting kids, and even with my current dislike of more than half of what goes on the field, I'll still help sponsor kids. but if fans stop liking something, it's NOT their fault. Remember, in the 90's hanson was hot. then they weren't. Hootie and the Blowfish were huge...then they fell off the face of the Earth. is it the fans fault they stopped liking them? no. it was the "artists" fault for not putting out a product people bought. that's not the kids fault either. as usual, when it comes to a great thing for kids, it's the adults that #### it up. see Little LEague, youth soccer, marching band, you name it

Have a great summer. You and what you do are valued by fans, despite a few of the comments you see on here. There's a lot of people who read on here who don't post for the very reasons you describe. You just have to sift through a little bit of stuff, and you'll find a lot of good. Just like pretty much anything else in life.

All I'm gonna say is that if you're gonna pick a composer to use as the "lesser" example, Mahler is probably the LAST composer you should ever pick for that. Maybe Mozart would have been a better choice (his symphonies are certainly incredible, but not necessarily "big"). [/nerd rage + a few drinks]

obvious troll is obvious.

I never inferred censoring your opinions or free-speech. I was merely discussing some arguments can come across as being offensive when they don't have to be. It's not about having tough skin, it's about being diplomatic...?

The same could be said of ANY concert performance, be it Springsteen, Boston, Chicago, Cleveland, Atlanta symphonies, the Met, etc. But, your opinion can't change the marketplace all by itself. Concert tickets...$400? Download the video...$1.29? See a bootleg on YouTube...FREE? The costs are only going in one direction. So, some people could care less about the difference of the sound live versus recording. Some people could care less about analog vs. digital signals, etc. In this era of Autotune, many pop sounds aren't live any longer. So, when asked about live or fade away, the marketplace is one important, BUT not the most important determining factor. What will cause drum corps to cease will not be audience. It will be the logistics of travel and the lack of adequate housing and rehearsal space. That will end drum corps well before the "sound of live" vesus the "sound of a recording."

This is fun... I'm skipping every other one.... fill in the blanks. 1. 2. Cavies 3. 4. Cadets 5. 6. Blue Stars 7. 8. Boston 9. 10. Crossmen 11. 12. Phantom 13. 14. Spirit 15. 16. Troopers 17. 18. Pacific Crest 19. 20. Jersey Surf 21. 22. Pioneer 23.

DCI eliminated the need (and thus the demand) by passing any-key. Kilties, Statesmen, and Renegades are the three DCA corps I can name that use G bugles (and not because they can't afford Bb/F). They sound pretty good, but not ideal, because they're limited by the DCA rehearsal schedule. I'd love to hear a corps use that instrumentation and rehearse all summer long.

Exactly. This is why DCI needs to do everything it can to promote the (decreasingly) unique "drum corps sound" that is unlike anything you've heard before, and can only be truly experienced live. Yet I almost never see it advertised that way.

Back to the question. I prefer live. I don't like my drum corps when they fade away. Oh, that wasn't the question. Drum corps is suffering no different than ballet, opera, symphony orchestras, concerts of all types, etc. The biggest reason is, there is little need to see performances live anymore. We have the immediacy of iTunes or YouTube. I predict sports will follow this trend as well. Already, college bowl games are TV only events with few if any people in the stands. I saw a college All Star game on tv last week from Tempe...they probably had 1500 people in a stadium that seats 80,000. So, we get everything we want from the comfort of our own home, car, or wherever. Some people begin to question the price for a ticket for the "live" experience, when I can get the blu-rays and pop my own popcorn. So, the arts, as we know it, are undergoing massive shifts from an old paradigm dependent on mass audience attendance. Now, it's shifting to getting the fresh product out in the spheres of the Tube, the "i" the xbox, the ether.

That's nice. Their art is still primarily geared toward the simplistic and sentimental. If that floats your boat, more power to you - but that doesn't mean anyone else who aspires to something more interesting should have "the Branson aesthetic" being the driving force in determining what you should do with some of the most gifted young musicians in the world. It would be a waste of their abilities. My constructive suggestion for DCI has been voiced here again and again; look to WGI and create a competitive format for new corps made up of no more than 50 performers. Smaller venues, limited personnel, and a more wide-open programming format that rewards creativity and execution equally. Let them do MORE things on the field than the big boys can do, and you give the kids who choose to compete there a different kind of drum corps that is all their own. If you don't give smaller, local, part-time drum corps a format that rewards them for what they can do on limited budgets and time commitment, you'll continue to see the number of corps dwindle. THAT could actually do something to put new butts in the seats, since every kid on the field is worth 1 or 2 butts in the stands. But forcing every corps that exists now to change their programming to pop tunes and Americana won't do a d__n thing to bring in the unwashed masses, since to them, it's still a bunch of band nerds, whether they're playing Bartok or Kanye West.

That is historically inaccurate. When the AL/VFW organized drum corps field competition, they organized marching band field competition at the same time. Clearly, drum corps was not "for marching band geeks". And as for popularity, the 1958 AL Nationals drew 48,000 attendance. An ordinary five-corps show back then could sell more tickets than DCI Finals does today. Either drum corps was more "popular", or our "niche" was bigger back then.

uh they had 20

wasn't that the year they took over the former DCM shows? of course attendance was u. and if it wasnt, that was the last unplugged in year. the next year the press release was about "like shows". since then, there have been very few press releases.

Because as we know, every director in DCI wants people to hate drum corps. Every body at DCI is dead set on having drum corps die...

Word on the street is that the next generation of King horns will feature the new BLAT-O-PHONIC Sound Technology® that accurately reproduces the 1960's era piston-rotor G bugle timbre and intonation. Expect a big bump in DCI attendance numbers once that happens.

Just saw a video of Crossmen playing their Intro. I may be a bit biased, but woah. ;)

> This forces corps to be consistent throughout the season. For those that surge at the end of the season, they should have done better earlier, and those who bomb at the end of the season dont bomb. Part of the appeal to get people to go to say San Antonio "and" Finals in the same season is that most corps' continue to get better, and better, and better, and add, and subtract, and get better as the tour progress toward Finals. As for the corps' you say bomb, they do not bomb, they just peak early and fail to get better, and better. So what you are in essence asking all corps' to do by coming out of the box in June on fire and be consistent throughout the whole season is for corps to actually peak in June (i.e. bomb).

right. from the guy who voted no when it came to amps being allowed.

A video (different than the one posted on George's facebook) is available on the Cadets Facebook Page, which means EVERYONE can watch it. Here's the link: http://www.facebook.com/#!/cadets.org

so, let's just push on, ignore the issues and let it die out. yeah thats the ticket

I strongly disagree, strongly I don’t know how you can even say that, care to qualify it? How long have you’ve been following live drum corps? When did you first see it live? And to the person that suggested we get familiar with source music before a show…many times I’ve walked into a show knowing the source music listed and I can’t find it in the show, the arranging is that bad For me, it’s better not knowing what they are going to play for the most part because if I do, I’m often appalled by their arrangement. I totality get why some composer won’t let drum corps use their stuff – I doubt I’d let most corps use any of my stuff, in fact, so much of it is so unrecognizable to the source, I don’t know why they even bother with a license

predictions you can bank on: whoever scores highest wins. if someone doesnt like a corps show, they are a hater. if someone doesnt get a corps show, they'll be told to research and stop being stuck in the 70's. if someone doesnt like BD's show, Plan will tell them it's because BD wins and they want someone new. if anyone criticizes a rule, MikeD will say we need no rules. the passion of the season will probably see someone get banned, and several people get suspensions. people in the DCI Forum will call DCA people old and out of touch. people in the DCA forum will call DCI people young punks with no respect for history. People will ##### if a show isn't done by late June. finals night the place will crash as scores are announced. at Allentown, you will hear someone warm up during a ballad. I will make sure to ignore Facebook chat when watching Fan Network live broadcasts. I will write a review for DCI or DCA or both guaranteed to #### someone off. Bawker will have great smart ### comments Lance will play devils advocate for the sake of playing devils advocate. Someone will like waffles, but be told Belgian Waffles are better and have more depth. I could go on, but this should be a start

-I predict that BD's 2011 show will be entitled: "1984" A show about doublespeak and Thought Police that by the end will make the audience believe that BD 2010 has been their favorite show for several years. ...exactly. -I predict that the Cadets will find surprising mass appeal for their singing in Angels in the Architecture after realizing that all they really needed to do was higher a Siren. (but refuses to take responsibility for the ship wreaked vessels littering the stadium) -I predict that in order for the Crossmen to gain the judges appeal for their lack of synth, they will just have to tell the judges that they just "forgot" the extension cord... every show. -I predict that after watching Madison's show audience members will have burned over 1000 calories; the non-stop "sitting, standing, jumping" during the performance however will have legacy fans wondering if all this "entertainment" was really worth the strain on their knees. -I predict that Teal Sound will have actually stolen all of Crossmen's extension cords. -I predict that Rule Proposal #2 will be revealed to be an Apple conspiracy. -I predict George Hopkins. That is all.

Blue Devils Cavies Crown Bluecoats SCV Blue Stars Cadets Regiment (the rest)