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  1. 4 points
    Hear, hear. In summary, I think its a great thing that Gray is doing less of the creative decision making and some new folks will get the opportunity to actually take the corps places without being second-guessed. There was some amazing talent that was wasted this year on a boring and predictable overall design concept. Please, whatever you do, don't lay blame at the feet of the horns and drums--they got it done. I won't say Gray is arrogant, ineffective, or uncooperative, but I would add that the number of people who have left the corps (even mid-season) since he arrived speaks volumes about staff unhappiness and self-worth. Seriously, have you ever had to endure one of his motivational or philosophical conversations? It seems as though the most dangerous place in the world is that space between Michael Gray and a microphone. He loves the sound of his own voice so much that he is drawn to a video camera like others are drawn to oxygen. When scrolling through FanNetwork videos, I no longer watch the official Bluecoats videos for fear of having to endure some long rant on how the Bluecoats' show conveys some nebulous or meaningless mindset. This is so much the case that I know which videos he has scripted, even though his voice may be absent from the video--others are doing the jibber jabbering for him.
  2. 4 points
    I'll be turning 27 years old in December and have been doing pagentry full time as a career for 5 years already. Teaching drum corps is MAYBE 3% of my annual income. Writing drill for marching bands is about 94% while the last 3% being random marching clinics, etc. Drum corps is not "my career" but is my career all at the same time. (Not sure if that came across the way I meant it to) Teaching drum corps is how I got the "street credit" to be able to write marching band drill for a living at a very young age. It's a tough market to break into with no benefits, long hours, a scary tax season, etc. But there are also many perks to it. Make sure you're 100% committed to it before you decide to do it and be prepared to be really hungry for the first couple of years. :-p
  3. 4 points
    Let's get this done for them folks. Whatever the cause of their trouble we're all a family. Family helps when we're needed. Don't let another corps fall into history because you wouldn't make a donation, even a small one. I made a small donation by PayPal. Remember you don't need a PayPal account to make a PayPal donation, they take credit cards too. Best of luck Bush
  4. 4 points
  5. 3 points
    I definitely noticed his penchant for mindless drivel after listening to his second installment on The Marching Roundtable. I think he means well, but he's caught up in the business of being an artist with its usual motto of "everything must be meaningful and deep" nonsense. Maybe I'm just jaded after studying and taking a billion art and philosophy classes that anytime I hear anything that resembles a search for the metaphysical, I roll my eyes.
  6. 3 points
    I noticed that one back in '91 watching the show - you see it every so often where the drill comes up to meet the soloist instead of the other way around. I've always thought the drill coming to get them was always a much cooler move. Mike
  7. 3 points
    Having heard from Jay, Bob and Dave....and still not necessarily able to make perfect sense of everything....i did what I thought was right.... I hit the Bushwackers website, clicked on Donate and put a little in the PayPal kitty. I didnt want to miss out on an opportunity to be part of the solution. This drive toward a solution has a REAL chance at being a drum corps success story.
  8. 2 points
    Frank, although I totally understand where your coming from, the sheets don't make sense as far the Judges comments. How do you get comments like "great show", "aggressive charts" "very entertaining" and then get a score that doesn't back those comments up. If we got sheets that said "tempo problems" "weak show", Corps not able to sell show, then we would understand what we have to improve on and that would justify the score . We would much rather have constructive criticism. I believe tapes would provide us with this as the Judges could comment as they go along and point out weaknesses and strengths. It's really that simple
  9. 2 points
    Ummm...turn the sheets around.... There you will find what exactly what the judges are awarding criteria and points on! Take those sheets, max out the criteria set forth, and you get your score. All I'm saying is if you feel you need the sheets or a tape, then good for you. Me personally, as long as I understand HOW to read the sheets that are given to each mini corps in the packet when the mini corps registers, I try my best to apply it to the said corps, and let the chips fall where they may. Because the championships is a one shot deal, and as ALL of the DCA corps do NOT get tapes at Championships, (just sheets), they do the same for Mini Corps. I'm sorry....but a tape for this year will absolutely do nothing for me next year! Sheets might help some, but if the sheets stay the same, year to year, then I as an instructor or program coordinator of my mini corps should know how to inturpret those sheets! Yes...my opinion of this has changed over the years.
  10. 2 points
    Another option is to marry a rich Princess.... sort of like the updated and modern day version of the Cinderella Story . Then as the worldly Prince, one is free to do the full time Drum Corps teaching thing throughout the Drum Corps Kingdom.
  11. 2 points
    Start with the entire Top 12 from 1984 - maybe the best 1-12 top to bottom ever!
  12. 2 points
    Cavies had plenty of performance issues. I know some turned a blind eye/ deaf ear to them.. But they didnt sound all that great, and they looked awful on the field. Bring the red things.... haven't recieved any since the last time I spoke out on the Cavies. But no.. they are so great. best drum corpz ever!!!! I luved their sunglasses!!!! <3<3<3 I <3 the cavaliers!!! Yeah boyz!!
  13. 2 points
    You might consider the U.S. Marine Corps D&BC. http://drumcorps.mbw.usmc.mil/
  14. 2 points
    I think I am stating what the rest of the drum corps world has already stated. We are not used to seeing the Cavaliers as a "bottom 6" drum corps. At least not since 1984 and 1997. It's a competitive environment, everyone is working to create the best product they can, and each organization has it's own set of unique challenges that influence what you see come finals night. Your above stats are correct... in this current decade only once have The Cavaliers and Boston been in the same conversation (2012). The other years? Not so comparable. Do you understand my comment now? Thanks for illustrating it, but I didn't say "never been compared to..." I said "foreign" meaning "out of the oridinary".
  15. 2 points
    I've grown very tired of "bring back" shows. It would only delay their rebuild. Look forward and be part of the future.
  16. 2 points
    I was going to suggest "15 Minutes of Fame," but it might be too soon.
  17. 2 points
    Cadets 11, Phantom 08....there's your GE monsters
  18. 2 points
    I am agreeing with all those who have mentioned Bluecoats--i felt they were amazing every time i heard them. (ANd their drum line was amazing as well)
  19. 2 points
    I'd say: Bluecoats (I had them in 3rd...) Spirit Crossmen Pacific Crest
  20. 2 points
    The person who posted that comment lacks basic math skills.
  21. 1 point
    So I was checking out the Aimachi video that Boo posted, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTJe84VeOIs Since I saw them live at DCA, I've been watching the Kidgrove Scouts too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vM-Pum1CEM0 Finally, I saw Patria from Guatemala because of the BD trip there I know there are groups in Indonesia, Europe, and other places in the world. It's great to see Drum Corps and the marching arts in general in so many countries around the world. Still the question remains... What part of the world can rival the US, or at least come the closest to rivaling us in quality? Are there groups in China that could compete here? What about Brazil? My guess is that Japan is the closest, followed by Europe. What do you guys think? I know many of you are very knowledgeable about the marching arts around the world. Is there a region or even a country that can rival us? Where is it? Who comes the closest?
  22. 1 point
    I can't speak to your central question, but I also saw Kidsgrove for the first time at DCA Finals (I'd never even heard of them before), and thought they were wonderfully entertaining.
  23. 1 point
    You ask a question of me that is not quite the concern and/ or priority for me that it might be with you. For example, perhaps you attend shows to determine who is " the best ". Thats cool. I attend shows to find out which one is the " most entertaining " as it is defined by me. As such, at local shows, I usually leave after I've determined which was the " most entertaining " ( and my personal placements for this at the show ) and then let the judges decide who was " the best " on the judging sheets they use. We are usually on the highway when the judges scores are announced. Only at Regionals do I have some interest in the scores and placements. But even then, its not what brings me out to the shows. Some of my " best " shows didn't place well at all. That doesn't concern me.
  24. 1 point
    Frank is right, but for those that insist a tape with comments will help them for next year, let me give you some helpful comments that should assist you when designing your next program: BE MORE AWESOME. GET BETTER. SUCK LESS. Do you really need anything else? Anything more than that is just frosting.
  25. 1 point
    I've always wanted to make my way up the ranks. I love teching. Music and visual.. I've done it all. And I know I would be good at the drum corps level.. I guess I have to just start making myself more visible. I just have other priorities right now. But being a marching band arranger, and drum corps brass arranger might be a my dream job. If I could make enough money I don'r know. I digress. I ####ed enough #### up... I gotta work myself out of this hole first before I can actually do what i want to do. However being a GM at a high volume Wawa is a great career choice. Seriously. #### being a teacher.....
  26. 1 point
    That's what gives me my DCP internet cred, as I have a Blue Devils ring... . . . . . . . . ...tone.
  27. 1 point
    because different people have different priorities. that said, I agree that by choosing drum corps, people are making the decision that they would rather the drum corps have the money. Some people are blind to this fact, and even try to deny it (as some on here have done previously when I brought this up previously. that said, I am happy voting for drum corps, because they provide more to me, personally, than a community health organization. I accept that other people see things differently.
  28. 1 point
    OK...I got to page 8 on this thread, and was tired of reading the same old things.... Here is my take..... As a former member of a championship mini corps, I do not see how a tape or comments for this years show is going to help you design and prepare for your show for next year. If you play the same show form year to year...ok...I get it. But if you are going to design and play a totally different show next year, how the heck is your tape or comments from THIS year, going to help for next? Now...I really don't know if this was covered already, because, as I said, I stopped reading at Page 8. Please....someone explain this to me?? Please??? When I taught my mini corps, I would listen and try to watch the corps that beat me, and see what they did better than what we did, and then try to improve on that next year. If we moved up a place the following year, then I did my job as an instructor. If we dropped a place, then I had to watch all over again, and again try to improve the following year. For me, it was that simple....I didn't need any stinkin tapes. The crowd reaction was good for me too!! Don't know how to post links to videos, but please check out the 2007 Golden Eagles Mini Corps on youtube...SO Close!!!!
  29. 1 point
    As the author of CI, I feel compelled to point out that CI only comes into play when it's close...it doesn't cause corps to win that suck. To use CI in its proper context with Cavies, you'd have to ask "I wonder if Madison [or any lower placing corps] was actually better than Cavies?" If a vast majority feel that Madison was better, then we can conclude that CI played a role. The question can be asked for any slot. Furthermore, if "the design" was truly the only problem with Cavies, then how come their sub captions don't bare that out? For if they had 10th place design and 1st place performance, they'd end up around 5-6th place, right? In fact, they had ZERO captions where the performance outpaced the design...in every case, the same or LOWER.
  30. 1 point
    Caballeroville sounds like a great place, so move to Mankato and join in on the fun. I think the Cabs need to do a show in the Mankato area in honnor of Bob, lets say, around the weekend after DCI sounds good. I believe I could put together a drum corps show and a little party to go along with this event. p.s. Bring the alumni corps as well
  31. 1 point
    Looking forward to seeeing Bush on field again next season
  32. 1 point
    Well, nothing from 2000-2008! But seriously, I don't think groups should look at what was successful in the past and try to replicate, but rather innovate and come up with something new and amazing.
  33. 1 point
    They do not need to live in the past. They need to forge a vibrant future. And I believe they are going to do just that!
  34. 1 point
    Honestly ... from 82 on up .. it's most of what's available. They're all top 10. The list above is pretty great but it has some gaping holes. If I'm really being honest .. there are some paperweights in 82 - 84 ... but from there on up .... GET THEM ALL!
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  36. 1 point
    Sweet: so DCI should then drop brass and go w/all woodwinds & string instruments. THAT has never been done before...
  37. 1 point
    Many thanks for this. I'd like to suggest that this be permanently pinned at the top of the Historical Junior Corps board.
  38. 1 point
    Now we're talkin'!! I also propose that F# and Cb should no longer be used, as it's been done before and by the best. Chuck
  39. 1 point
    Hmm. No company fronts, no box rotation, no box compression or expansions. Isn't everything a direct repeat or variation on what has been done before? That to me is what pushes the creativity- how to do something a little differently or better than before. Now if you manage something entirely new, all the better.
  40. 1 point
    THEY DO IT REGARDLESS OF ACCESS TO TAPES OR NOT!!! WHAT IS SO ###### HARD ABOUT THAT FOR YOU TO GET? Long before you had the interwebs, lower level corps copied big name corps. Now with the interwebs they do it. so putting a tape up or the ability to put a tape up hasn;t changed a ###### thing. I see far too many WGI lines trying to do what Pulse, RCC, Music City, X etc do badly...and there's few if any WGI tapes floating around. So what's their excuse...err your excuse?
  41. 1 point
    How about a new rule proposal....a rule that would forbid any Corps from doing anything that has been done before, including not just musical selections, but also drill moves! That way, everything would be fresh and new EVERY year!!!
  42. 1 point
    I thought that the Cavaliers were underrated. In the early season, they had some heros sticking out of the ensemble, and definitely you could hear their feet in their horns, but by the end of July, they had a much improved sound. Maybe not quite up to their usual championship level, but really good. I also was really impressed with Bluecoats, Madison and Santa Clara's brass lines. Each had a mature and powerful sound. But out of that group, I would give the edge to the Bluecoats.
  43. 1 point
    Bluecoats Crossmen Spirit SCV and Oregon Crusaders
  44. 1 point
    If there is no high cam, then this isn't a recording of the "show". It's vignettes of individuals within the show. Give us the SHOW
  45. 1 point
    I'm sure this would put the activity in the news. Left-leaning news sites: "People have the constitutional right to throw pretend babies!" Right-leaning news sites: "Throwing pretend babies will always lead to throwing real babies- this is an outrage!"
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  48. 1 point
    I'll second that. I also thought the Bluecoats were one of the best sounding lines.
  49. 1 point
    Bloo, PC, and Spirit from a scoring standpoint. I would've had them (SOA) ahead of Cavaliers in horns.
  50. 1 point
    They won the title in 2011.
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