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  1. May very well be. For me (at least) good visual design starts with good music. Even with today's visually-focused programs, I still believe the best designs let the music speak visually. The Cavies winning years certainly reversed that approach (and as a result I rarely just *listen* to any of their programs -- they're crippled without the visual. BD's design is also visually driven and I really don't listen to their recent stuff much -- I watch and listen, but not just listen. Team Allentown has certainly had some winning music designs lately. I adored the Barber show. OTOH they ar
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  2. "Tick city" Ticks were long gone by 1986, but I have seen migrating waterfowl hold forms a tad better than this.
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  3. There are many reasons for the current trends in brass arranging. Chiefly: impatience by visual, percussion and color guard judges and writers, who think of their own compartmentalized piece of the puzzle rather than allowing the music to live and breathe. We've been hijacked by WGI pacing, and designed judging sheets that reward frantic moods and over-writing. It's all VERY coordinated and well-thought-out on paper. In performance? It becomes mangled and generally meaningless musically. I won't speak for all arrangers. Some just aren't very good. Some are. Some do not assert themsel
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  4. IMO M. Klesch is always very respectful of the original. Probably the least "over-arranged" material in DCI every single year he's been creating arrangements.
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  5. Music teachers don't make great music. They make great musicians. I believe this is at the heart of this issue. While the arrangers are certainly capable of producing works of professional depth and subtlety, this activity is led by teachers, not arrangers. And by led, I mean the directors, instructors and judges are all teachers, not music critics, composers, designers or arrangers. Last year George Hopkins said their goals were, in order: 1. Challenge the members, 2. Entertain the audience, and 3. Impress the judges [my wording]. I believe these values are fairly consistent across DC
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  6. If it weren't for the pulse I'd never keep up. This piece shifts from 4/4 to 3/4 to 5/4 and back several times. And the splits aren't the really impressive parts - it's the writing! Brichtimp is curious how the percussion matches the horn book and, I can tell you for sure, that drum book matches the horn book perfectly. If they can clean it... But, oh my, what a book.... EDIT: oh, and I should say what the book ISN'T. Not a lot of rim-shots or gratuitous slams for effect as well as what it is: GREAT dynamic styling (watch for the sticks to move to the edge of the drum head, writing as d
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  7. Drum Geeks: the _kid and I counted 4 splits in the snare line, and at least one was a double-handed split left to right. Oh my. Oh, oh my. That drum line is the hottest (barely) Feb line I've seen a long, long time. That book is the most difficult thing I've heard, well, ever. Focus on the snares, which are just BLAZING! and you miss the basses (thanks to the gym) but you can hear them and the tenors battling in the background. Unbelievable, astounding writing. A bit a go I was looking for the link to the orchestral version and I ran across Dudamel playing it at, what seemed, an un-Holy
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  8. Yes but rehashing a legendary show is not what anyone needs
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  9. Welcome to the Drum Corps Planet Community! We hope that you enjoy your stay here. Please review the Community Guidelines so you can familiarize yourself with the communities' "personality". Please feel free to contact any of our staff members' if you have any comments, questions, or concerns. Rich
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  10. Question: In light of the new electronics proposal passing, can you explain specifically how electronics is handled by the DCI judging system? Which captions evaluate A&E and what are their individual responsibilities in that regard? Is there specific language on the judging sheets regarding the use of electronics and amplification? In the past there have been many complaints about the balance of electronics and amplified sound relative to the level of the brass and percussion. Is the quality of this balance adjudicated? Is reinforcing a brass part considered a legitimate use of el
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  11. We have 4 matching OLDS G Contra Bass horns for sale that have Kanstul three valve conversion kits that were professionally installed. The Kanstul 3 valve conversion kits were originally designed to convert these specific horns, and were then later adapted for use on Kings and others. These horns would be perfect for a smaller corps, alumni corps, parade corps, etc. that are looking to have a matching, tunable set of 3 valve horns in a more manageable size than the super mags and the like. These horns are in pretty good shape for their age, but could use a good cleaning and some minor cosmet
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  12. I'm sure I'm not the only one who's noticed this trend, but I was watching the "Best DCI Moments of 2012" recently, and I was struck by the surprising lack of cohesion in many of the brass arrangements. It's almost as if a lot of the shows are just "hit - transition - hit - transition - hit - transition - hit" in structure. I'm not saying that they don't contain complete musical ideas, but the arrangers are being fairly unoriginal and cliche'd. I also think that they're not being patient with the music, allowing it room to breathe and stretch its limbs. I'm primarily a brass person, so I can'
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  13. ^^^ agreed to a certain extent however the level of musical performance in the top echelon of DCI is exquisite even if the arranging seems sometimes incomplete. Its still nice to listen to.
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  14. This mostly sums it up for me. Spot on! Keep in mind, we still get some gems in drum corps from a standpoint of music. Also, to be fair, part of the problem is the sheer difficulty in syncing music, drill, visual ideas, staging, and thematic progression into ONE cohesive show. This isn't easy stuff. If you listen to the Cadets 2010 show music in a stand-still performance you would love it. And even on the field I loved it. Great music. But when combined with drill, staging, visual concepts, thematic ideas, well...ultimately it was a good show but didn't quite hit the level they had w
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  15. What did you learn in Drum Corps.... not to take #### from anyone..... Shades of our corps bringing in a hired gun to work on our drill. Guy worked with name corps was older than my dad and NEVER used an indoor voice if you get my drift. Sure enough <cutting long story short> we had a major drill screw up at the end of one song at practice (only time all year it was off) and member next to me just puts her horn down and walks to her correct spot. I'm next in line and didn't move. Hired gun chews her out for moving and steams (out of his ears) over to me. All I can think is "Don't BS hi
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  16. Something I unfortunately never got to do with the Kilties: I always wanted to spraypaint the bells blue after prelims. So when the horns came up at finals, there would be the Blue Bells of Scotland.
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  17. I met her in 87. She was super nice. I was going to post her name also.
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  18. LOL Yea, that's it. Thanks. lol
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  19. Pfft and here we have people on another topic complaining about how modern DCI shows don't let shows build a musical idea anymore. That was beautiful and this show will be an absolute beast. They're already nominated for ballad of the year.
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  20. Were selling 2 sets of guard units. The 2014 set has 16 uni's made by Effects by Design. They were made for Arabin Nights show theme. The other set has 14 uni's made by Algy. Show them was Fanfare for a New World. There at 40 swing flags. Colors are light blue, white and silver. Email if interested in any of this and pics will be sent. aamico@stny.rr.com
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  21. Are you implying, Arranger, that one person's "creative energy" is another person's "balls"? If so...then I'm with you.
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  22. Even more, the 'lowly' members of the general audience have bemoaned this development for MANY years. Forget the moms, dads, girlfriends, boyfriends, etc., they're good with all of it, whatever it is. The challenge is enthralling the other faces in the crowd. I did see great promise in 2014 performances, however. The activity is moving toward a better balance. I sincerely hope the past season's productions were not merely a brief aberration. Answer coming soon!
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  23. hope everyone is enjoying the winter... all's well here as we await another storm tomorrow into Monday... fortunately, late tomorrow morning Karen and I will be heading south in advance of the storm and escaping for a couple of weeks - celebrating our 46th Anniversary... (yes, she's a saint for putting up with both me and drum corps) Cruising thanks to Bob Cardaneo's Cruise One and good buddy Ken MacLean... see you all after the 15th...
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  24. After some exciting shows last night, we get ready to head to some of our favorite venues for our third Sweepstakes events of the season. In the midwest, corps will be competing at the venerable Perkins Stadium in Whitewater WI. Dune Battalion has really shaken up the standings with their recent wins in Slinger and Syracuse, and are being viewed as the favorites to win this event. But how will they do against Confederate Regiment as that corps makes its return from out west? Also worth keeping an eye on is the Class A matchup between Hg and Mackinac Island Crusaders. Out east, Les Blanc Ch
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  25. Most organizations (because most people), not just drum corps, are afraid of showing mistakes, weaknesses, etc. So they don't want to release early clips because (a) they don't want to publicly admit they screwed up if they feel they have to change things later, (b) they don't want to offer an unpolished display that would tarnish their public image and possibly negatively affect recruiting, or simply the buzz of fan-boys everywhere, © they don't want the public to realize they are much farther behind than they should be (i.e. "every other corps is showing clips of their entire show, and all
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  26. YES! I know I've said it before, but I 100% appreciate how candid Hop & his design staff are in the off-season when it comes to show design. They really let their fans in on the process more than any other corps by A LOT, even if the process means "we have a great idea & our show next summer is X" only to come back in a few months and say, "we changed our minds, simplified the vision, and instead are totally going in a different direction." Meaning, I appreciate their openness, warts & all (and I still really want to see a Bernstein show that mashes-up On The Waterfront, WSS, an
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  27. I agree! They are creating Drum Corps shows. This is not Coca Cola’s secret formula or Anything that Can Jeopardize a War or Endanger Troops’ Lives.
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  28. I have a DCP app on my iPhone; had it for years. It would let you select the forum you wished to visit and then open the forum in Safari. Yesterday, it stopped working and just displays a 404 server not found error. Any ideas? Is this a 3rd party app that is no longer supported by its developer? Thanks
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  29. I would submit that if a multi-year vet comes to auditions and rehearsals unprepared, then they are not being very "loyal" to their corps to begin with
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  30. Here's another drill move from the next movement in the same show. http://youtu.be/Uvi8k5q_Z2Y There there is the opening drill in their 2008 show. The transitions from triangle to Star of David are from drill heaven. http://youtu.be/mU9KNk8HO1E
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  32. They are? Drums is one thing but they need to go outside the box to something new. They have the talent and now have the instructional staff to do this. Phantom of the Opera is not that musically exceptional.
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  33. and this my friends, is what many on here (me NOT being one of them) would like to see drum corps go back to. no dance, no artistic guard, no pit, uniforms, g bugles, etc.... etc.... and of course spats!
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  34. It really isn't a big deal I guess, and does make sense if there are financial advantages, but I really feel that the corps loses some connection with the community by rehearsing elsewhere. I spent many many hours in Rockford this spring, and local people came out every night to check them out. I know it sounds hokey, but there was a sense of community, pride, etc...
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  35. I think the staff of the last few year has done just what you are asking.( and a good job of it ) This also in itself can be a problem. I think, as I have said, having your feet in both the present and the past can always be an issue and very tricky. I do think ( knowing several personally ) they were also thinking of pleasing way to many people. Judges, ( which it is a competition and they want to stay in finals ) Audience , alumni, etc etc. maybe it's time to just do want they want and not try so hard. You will NEVER please everyone. People think they might have the answers to all this BUT s
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  36. That's absolutely ridiculous. Do some corps have strong identities? Sure. But doing a show out of a corps' identity is not going to hurt their score in any way. The only reason it would hurt their score would be if the staff weren't capable of teaching the style effectively to the members. General effect is general effect, and the corps that's performing the effect doesn't make a difference (well, other than execution scores). It's all in the show design.
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  37. Madison should announce they're gonna do a western show, thereby forcing Troopers to abandon that theme and go with something else. Everybody wins! Then a few months before the start of the season Scouts announce they've decided to not do a western show after all, rather they'll be doing something more in the Madison style. But by then it's too late for Troop to change and they proceed with their Bartok show.. Everybody wins again! I did all this without the assistance of any mood altering medication.
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  38. No; it has turned into a sleepfest at the end and they need to act now to rectify it.
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  39. Well, NR_Ohiobando, who the first to mention, with some disappointment, that the ending was being changed, was also the person who posted at great length about how the show was more challenging than the judges seemed to be crediting it, and he specifically talked about the tricky time signatures. You should read his posts.
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  40. In order to do a successful comparison of styles show, you must select only two styles, and do everything in your power to select two distinctly different pieces of music, drill and uniform. The show must contain a crystal clear distinction in styles, and must clarify the moment of transition. (Perhaps creating the rotating company front that transforms into the new style. Boom. A distinct visual cue.) It's also best if you determine a historical moment when the style changed, and root the whole show in that year. "The Year Jazz Changed Forever." Three styles? Too much.
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  41. Which pretty much explains the name of the high brass award. :(
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  42. Hey- I'm listening to that on iTunes right now!!!! I'm at 2:12 (Wheat Dance) in case you cared.. Da da da da da daaaa, da da da daaaaaaah daaaaaaaaaah.......... Da da daaaaa....da da....... (front ensemble).... dadada dadada... (me) "Aaaahhhh..."
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  45. i've never been a huge pr fan (althought the brass performance in intro to 4th ballet suite was so #$(*@&(*$#@ amazing i can't help but listen to it whenever i think about it, and this has been going on for the past 5 years -- i think im obsessed), but 1991 pr is one of my favorite shows of all time. so far, it's actually my favorite pr show ever (though i have to admit that i haven't watched some of the best pr shows, according ot the general consensus, that have been performed -- but im still trying to get some time to watch pr 88, 89, and Tsar Pilato's DM year + 93, lol)...but having k
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  46. I first saw that show in Michigan City early on, and I was jumping up and down backfield, yelling "They're playing JAZZ! And it's good as he##! That soloist is screamin'!!". It remains one of my favorite shows of all time!
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  47. I've got a copy of the Maynard Ferguson piece, and the Phantom arrangement is *really* faithful to it. Well, except for being louder, tighter and overall better. :) Mike
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