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It's also possible for a non profit to own for-profit subsidiary company. I worked for a non-profit that spun off a business unit as for-profit, but still wholly owned the subsidiary.

Possible, yes, but the unrelated business income to the non-profit can't raise any "tax evasion" flags. It's tricky to structure, but certainly possible.

"... I'm a big fan of money. I like it, I use it, I have a little. I keep it in a jar on top of my refrigerator. I'd like to put more in that jar..." $1 to Adam Sandler - The Wedding Singer

I don't see this as any different than running bingo, selling raffle tickets, or gaining income from running clinics. Non profit doesn't mean non income. These organizations run on multi million dollar budgets. That money has to come from somewhere. I applaud BD for coming up with new innovative ways of supporting their activities. By the way, I believe their dues towards their members are among the lowest in DCI. Now that System Blue is its own entity I don't know how that will impact the situation at Blue Devils. It probably won't. BD rarely enters into anything without a healthy understanding of the impacts of those activities. Dan

I am shaking Tekk lol.Report away xan.....LOL About time that someone (beside a few here that do) get on this self proclaimed know it all. I actually find him amusing in his ignorance when he thinks he knows everything. But go after a guy that tried to make one of the best drum corps and did not make it THIS YEAR. Well now you will get my oldcadetsop (who missed the cut my first time) on you.

As usual... and this goes for not only the Cadets, but any other corps.... none of us will have any firm, definitive idea of what a show sounds like or looks like until the show is put on the competition field in June. So... see you then.

I wish we both did!!! LOL "Money isn’t the most important thing in life, but it’s reasonably close to oxygen on the 'gotta have it' scale." – Zig Ziglar

You betcha! I mean, UBIT-cha!

I still say that other than Madison or Arrowhead... Bloomington was BY FAR a PERFECT "stadium" for finals.... The only reasson I don't say a perfect "venue" is due to the lack of hotels and other stuff to do... But it's really hard to disagree with a WALL of people!

I'm sure this is not the only reason but, if you were considering buying new equipment for your musical group, would you buy it from a NFP? As a for-profit, SB can negotiate deals, enter into contracts and, generally, do business in a way that BDPA can't, and/or maybe shouldn't. Call me Schultz.

And why do I feel like we are about to go explaining that "non-profits" can make a profit for the 100th time? (to others. Obviously not to you garfield.) Couldn't System Blue still be a part of the BDPA 501c3, not a separate Corp, and simply be serving support, financial and otherwise, to the BDPA Service Programs (BDA, BDB, BDC, Diablo Wind Symphony)?

As of right now Carolina Gold has Yamaha drums and a mix of Adams and Dynasty for the front ensemble.

Erie Thunderbirds - Pearl Battery, Yamaha Keyboards, Adams Timpani

I've had to deal with being pressured into do Bluecoats but that's not my cup of tea,Thank you for pointing out his rude comment, it really is appreciated!

To the admins, enough is enough with him, If you disagree with my comment regarding him, do what you see fit. But his comments to screamer IMHO, were harsh. I stand by my reply, respectfully; Marc FHNSAB

Ummm, Wow. Someone's gonna get you for this lol... As usual, We have nothing else to do but speculate about what the show will look like. Let us have our fun.

Man, I lurk here, but have to chime in on this. xanndal or whatever you hide behind, that comment to screamer was rude. For someone as you say to be older and "know"? everything. Do us a favor and STFU. Screamer, keep going for it dude! Do not let idiots like him change what your goal is. Best to you screamer, Marc FHNSAB

Being as we were included in the brass list... ;) Kidsgrove Scouts - Pearl & Adams (at home), whatever is available for tours - 2010: Dynasty, 2012 & 2015: Mapex/Majestic. 2017: who knows!

Now you are hamming it up. You are correct about the feathered head pieces, they were full each appearing to be the chief. I first learned of them by watching the Pasadena New Year's Rose Parade where the corps was "marching" and evading that wintery stuff in the Twin Cities.

Wow... so far, it looks like only the Hurricanes are fielding a drum line this year!!!

Everytime a plume bounces when Cadets are marching backwards....

I'm already stoned....opps.... stoked..

New Xpress Guard instructor, Nicholas O’Brien, is originally from Anaheim, California but currently lives in Jacksonville, Florida where he is completing his studies in Music Education at the University of North Florida. He began his performing career as a member of the Orange Park HS Color Guard. He furthered his performing experience spending summers with […] ... Read the rest of the article here - http://www.drumcorpsplanet.com/2016/01/florida-xpress-adds-colorguard-for-second-season/

Looks like Cadets are on track this year Even though I liked their announced music and I’m fine with the show name, the design points are making me cringe Soloist on stage, how bando. its a George year so my early pick for fifth place

Add Bill McGrath, Bill Jr and the III Ron Bowks, Jerry Kelsey, Dave Martin, Walt Seabrook, Mike Seabrook, Brian Coughlin, Andrea Birblis, Fred Ford, etc and all the corps which I will miss many but here goes......Magnificent Yankees, Purple Lancers, Tri Town Cadets, Syracuse marauders, Gauchos, Black Knights, 76ers, Verona Eagles, Avant Garde, SpiegelAires, Volunteers, Kingston Indians, Shamrocks, Mello Dears, Vestal Grenadiers, Mark Twain Cadets, Barons of Stuben, Salamanca Black Knights, White Sabers, Rochester Crusaders, Empire Statesmen, Alpine Girls, Greece Cadets, Mighty Liberators, American Patrol, Albion Grenadiers, Syracuse Brigadiers, Castlemen, Long Island Kingsmen, CMCC Warriors, Squires, Lakeview Shoreliners, Imperial Regiment, Royal Coachmen, Blue Sabers, Frontiersmen, OLPH Ridgemen, NY Lancers, Patriots, Lockport Blazers, Renegades, Empire State Express, Fusion, Northmen, Firebirds, NY Skyliners, Sunrisers, St. Catherine's Queensmen, Appleknockers, Grey Knights, St. Rocco's Cadets, St. Joe's (Batavia), St. Ignatius Girls, Queens Village Queens, Emerald Statesmen, St. Rita's Brassmen, etc

I had a chance to see The Guardians at their January Camp. I was VERY impressed. They are not at all the corps they were before. The staff is pushing them hard and they sounded like a big boy corps. The Drumline is going to be HOT for sure. I bet they will turn some heads this year.

Minnesota Brass continues its proud association with System Blue. System Blue has been an integral part of Minnesota Brass' ownership of the DCI Minnesota Regional competition since its inception. It's good to see the two organizations expanding their affiliation!

By some standards you might consider the jobs I've had to be "good" ones: Tank commander - US Army Assistant Booking Agent - William Morris Agency Performing musician/arranger/corps instructor/DCI adjudicator High School band director Audio Producer College professor You will notice there are lots of them, some of which overlapped, all of which had something to do with my drum corps experience (even the tank), none of which make you rich, necessarily, all of which demanded skills I learned and refined in drum corps. It will be necessary to make allies of your parents in your quest. First things first: do well (not "good") in school. Your ability to set and meet educational goals and standards is the same skill you will need in drum corps. You must demonstrate that right now, in your current situation. When the prominent corps come to your area, bring your parents to a REHEARSAL. That will inform them far better than watching a video or even a live performance. Everyone here wishes you well.

Well to be fair "Fat Girl" may have ruffled some feathers.

A tabletop by a different name ...

I have no idea how judges judge " pulsing " in the pit, but I will support proper pulsing from the pit till I draw my last pulse.

Pulsing is real and legit. Although not all pit movement is pulsing.

I wouldn't get carried away with rumors, etc. I'm sure people have heard all kinds of things, but I'm also sure there is more to the story than what gets reported. Despite the constant rumors of GH being a rather feisty guy, and quite picky about certain things, the Cadets have been very well run for decades. Amidst disagreements and arguments and occasional staff changes, the corps survives and continues to perform brilliantly. Change is bound to happen, even when it's not a pretty change. I've always said that competitive drum corps can be a volatile activity where opinions and methods get tested and ruffled over the course of a season. Instructors have egos. Caption heads have egos. Techs have egos. Directors have egos. Fans and alumni have egos. Imagine trying to keep all of that together, happy, and in the pursuit of excellence every year, no matter the score or placement? Not to mention all the fund raising and admin work that needs to be done. This is why many directors have left corps, or been let go. It's why some corps have folded or lost key staff and alumni. There is nothing easy about running a modern American drum & bugle corps.