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  1. 6 points
    For the past few years, I've kept some daily stats as the season progresses. This year, I'm adding to that a summer road trip that will take me to San Antonio, Atlanta, Allentown, and Indianapolis and a daily snapshot of world class geography courtesy of the awesome map/corps flag pins set up in my office as a Christmas gift. Although it is not quite as easy to track spring training schedules as it is the rest of the season, I am going to give it a shot to get things started now. My information is only as good as the publicly available postings from the corps themselves. I hope you all enjoy!
  2. 6 points
    That was a pretty good stream of consciousness right there. I agree with some of it, and disagree with some of it. But enjoyed all of it.
  3. 4 points
    Did you forget one of the Blues?
  4. 4 points
    I keep hearing the theme music for Game of Thrones when looking st the map and logo flags
  5. 4 points
    Well, that happened.
  6. 3 points
    Due process? What are you talking about? A criminal charge? I thought this was about rules set forth by a private organization. You break them, you get the boot. What due process are you talking about? I must be missing the point. It's not like DCI is putting on a trial.
  7. 3 points
    Well, I posted my predictions on Facebook. I might as well post it on here. 1- Santa Clara Vanguard 2- Blue Devils 3- The Cavaliers 4- Boston Crusaders 5- Carolina Crown 6- Bluecoats 7- Phantom Regiment 8- The Cadets 9- Blue Knights 10- Madison Scouts 11- Crossmen 12- Mandrains I am more than likely going to be wrong since The Cavaliers are going to win their 8th championship this summer.... :)
  8. 3 points
    IMO SCV 89 should not have been treated any differently than any of the others. There was no punishment for marching those members throughout the season. No fees returned or placement forfeited. Yeah it was good that SCV reported themselves, but it was going to get reported because the word was out. SCV just did it before someone else got the chance to. Which brings me back to the DCI policy. Is the activity really serious about this and why no outline of consequences for violating the policy? IMO it’s has the appearance of a knee jerk reaction. Don’t get me wrong it’s better than not having any policy in place, and this is certainly a welcome first step. Logically - at least to me - if it is important to draft the policy after 46 years, it should be equally important to include the punishment for violating the policy. It leads me to believe that perhaps some are not really disturbed about these issues and more concerned that someone got caught.
  9. 3 points
    That just means you won semi-finals, not finals ;)
  10. 2 points
    GO SCV! As many of y'all know, I am a green machine fan... but SCV has a special place in my heart and I greatly look forward to what ya'll may give us this summer. Just as long as a couple of y'all can give The Cavaliers a few cheers... I am good to go!
  11. 2 points
    Nah. Not saying you're a bad guy. Not denying your perception of your experiences. And it's not just drum corps. But the truth is that girls are, from earliest childhood, given many, many, many, many, many more signals than boys that they're not cut out to lead. It's changing. And if you're still around when outcomes are approximately equal, you'll think back to your experiences, and you'll see the patterns that you're missing now.
  12. 2 points
    Well, in this country, free speech gets a lot of leeway. If you've abused me, I have the right to say so publicly. If you haven't abused me and I say so publicly, your recourse is a lawsuit.
  13. 2 points
    Bluecoats wait so long to announce their show they don't premiere it untill the next season.
  14. 2 points
    Yep like the Olympic Doctor who kept molesting while under investigation 24 more were assaulted is that what you mean by knee jerk? It is what you would expect from a top down mansplaining organization Been around Drum Corps for 55 years, have not seen anything like this. DCI has totally ignored anything controversial in the past by ducking their heads in the sand and trolling posts like this. They have not handled their responsibility in todays society. What has dci ever done to promote diversity, where are the women and people of color? The kids deserve better than a hollow policy statement. DCI can not be a microcosm of society until it steps up and provides trusted leadership and guidance that todays society demands from a diverse leadership team. Who is stepping up to reimburse Cadet members who lost money on prepaid flights to the California camp? Why no top 15 in finals? Why so many redactions on the Blu-rays, could it be Chris Isaak did not want a witch getting her head chopped off while singing his song? Now Sounds of Silence is inappropriate but burning witches is OK even if it does ruin the DVD is that the new policy, no "Sounds of Silence"? Although Mandarins, Legends, Fusion Corps and Bayou City Blues playing Sounds of Silence last year was bordering on Simon & Garfunkel abuse, go figure. Anyway see you on the Fifty and don't leave your seat or you will need to fight to get it back. Is it just too hard (expensive) to protect the seats between the 35s from seat grabbers before it causes some violence and you are forced to react?
  15. 2 points
    Yes. An observation. We are something like what - 7 weeks into the Post Philly Newspaper Cadets Story Era of Drum Corps. This Era is new, just like in 1984 when the Tick Era ended, the early 00's when any key Brass Era began, Electronics Era, etc. We do not know everything today that we will know one year from now
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  18. 2 points
    to get through the wet weekend I put on the video of the 93 cadets at finals....####, does drum corps get much better?..innovations aside, the purity of that performance still stands out after 25 years..if they can evoke that emotion again, I won't care what they score
  19. 2 points
    What are the consequences for a violation? Or did someone forget to add that part?
  20. 2 points
    I hope people keep digging... I think there is more in the works and some more names will be coming out. I also am pretty confident there are at least a few so far unnamed persons with great reputations in DCI that regularly engage in sexual relations with corps members. The questions here are, how many rocks are we willing to look under, because some people will definitely be laying low and hoping for this to blow over. As an activity, it is in our interest to look everywhere that we can and permanently change our culture; make it clear that certain actions are not welcome.
  21. 2 points
    DCI cannot continue without extensive oversight from some sort of central authority that outlines and enforces explicit rules for hiring and monitoring of personnel. I'm not being prescriptive, I'm being descriptive. If corps want to describe themselves as educational institutions, they need to work towards establishing the highest standards of professional practice for any educational institution, not the minimum to avoid litigation.
  22. 2 points
    https://cavaliers.org/news-blog/2018/adrian-college Adrian College for pre-tour this year. The best part I see is how the first couple days are structured to focus on member health and safety. https://static1.squarespace.com/static/586f009ed482e9e80753f1ad/t/5aff4058562fa72196a9a2f1/1526677592864/2018+Orientation+Weekend+Schedule+-+Public+(1).pdf
  23. 2 points
    It would be quite a circus atmosphere should he decide to go down that path. If it happens, I’ll start popping some corn.
  24. 1 point
    I did. Far less than half of drum corps directors are women. It's not because women are less competent. Yes, the times they are a-changin'. But just because half of the drum corps directors 25 years from now, or whenever, will be women, doesn't mean that half of drum corps' directors now are women, or that there hasn't been a long-term bias against them, not just in drum corps but in society as a whole.
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  26. 1 point
    I hear this argument often. The fact of the matter is there are fewer females over the years because fewer females want these positions. I usually say they are a lot smarter. Even in the guard world, there are far less female instructors ( especially heading a program ) This does not mean there is less talent among the female gender it is just that many choose different paths, don't want to dedicate the time, etc etc.. Was there and maybe still a " boys club mentality" sure to some degree. That mostly is just among some which in many cases are just threatened by ANY talent more than their own, male or female. How do I know what I said here is true? I have spent decades hiring, firing, seeking new talent out, offering opportunities to all genders. This at least has been my experience .Now keep in mind we aren't talking an industry with millions of jobs and opportunity. With the merger of Drum Corps, band, sound sport winter percussion and guard and the crossover of almost everyone involved YES there has been more to offer today.
  27. 1 point
    Wouldn’t someone who doesn’t go after what they want because they felt discouraged be a bad leader anyway? What evidence of this discouragement do you have? Equal opportunity does not mean equal outcome. I know of a few female band directors that could be corps directors that are too busy winning State and National Championships.
  28. 1 point
    Good for Blue Devils and Academy for working to move drum corps into the 21st century then. But how many corps directors are women? If that number is less than 40%, as I believe it is, that suggests there has been some historical bias in the activity, albeit one that is non-explicit and for the most part not consciously intended, that assumes women just can't hack it, which manifests in discouraging them from ever getting on a leadership track.
  29. 1 point
    Prior to the #MeToo movement, lots of victims' lives, over many decades, were ruined, but we just didn't know it, because all too often the default assumption among the public and among those to whom offenders should have been reported, was that accusers were lying or at best, that such abuse was no big deal. Think of George Hopkins's victims, who have been living with a private shame and anguish for so long.
  30. 1 point
    Wow ... Bluecoats must be having a terrible off season!
  31. 1 point
    1. Blue Devils 2. Carolina Crown 3. Santa Clara Vanguard 4. Cavaliers 5. Boston Crusaders 6. Cadets/Phantom 7. Phantom/Cadets/Blue Knights 8. Blue Knights/Phantom 9. Blue Stars 10. Madison 11. Academy 12. Crossmen 13. Mandarins 14. Troopers 15. Blue Devils B I think Crown’s show is gonna be an absolute crowd favorite, that show sounds like it has so much potential, and will beat out Vanguard (jury’s still out, hoping for a show announcement today!)! But BD is such a powerhouse... possibly another version of 2015. But SCV stays in medal competition. Boston continues to climb! I can’t wait to see their show this year, I hope it has a little more melodic content. I remember a lot of emotion from last year, but just no music that has really stuck with me. Looove the visual package though!! Uniforms have already redefined how I think of Boston, and the plumes were absolutely great, I hope they continue the minimalistic but still traditional style. Hard to say with the 6-8 because I feel like cadets will have a very strong emotional response to what happened this offseason and will stop at nothing to show the world what they are made of. But, Phantom’s show announcement made me more excited than any so far (maybe a little biased) buuuut their reportoire is absolutely fantastic and I think the combination of more experience and the coming of Brad Toth from BK will have them roaring. Because BK lost him, and I feel like have a tough show concept, the blue Knights won’t do quite as well this year. Dont know as much about the rest, but I really hope to see Academy return! Many of us a year ago this time predicted a year out of finals, and then a return. I hope this is the case!! Finals experience will beat out the hopeful mandarins.
  32. 1 point
    This is a cool thread. I first heard of the Texas town of West five years ago last month when this happened.
  33. 1 point
    Like a good Cavies fan. :)
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  35. 1 point
    This seems like a logical spot to reload my proposal to codify new rules from the closed thread last evening. I have attempted to revise per Guardling & other suggestions *********************** I think that Sexual Harassment / Inappropriate Relationships /DFTK rules should be put in the Official DCI Rules Blue Book, probably somewhere near the age requirements, as I believe this is the only other rules infraction that can lead to Disqualification (advise if I am incorrect). So how does the enforcement process happen? I personally think Drum Corps is past the 'ratting-out' process used for overage issues in the 1970s. But somehow, lets say there is an allegation of violation. Some violations could be 'cut & dry'; others not so much. DCI would have to work out some process. If a Corps discovers inappropriate relationship and acts quickly, forcefully, and decisively (including reporting to law enforcement if appropriate), while promptly reporting to DCI what happened, then they would not be DQ'd (for better or worse, SCV 89 overage issue was handled this way). Any hint of coverup, DQ. Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200. Is it better to create a process, that could later be tweaked due to unforeseen consequences? Or put a policy in place that has no apparent or standard enforcement mechanism? IMHO whatever is put in place needs to be consistent and predictable. My thoughts on the DQ option is that it is so drastic a consequence that no Corps would even let a whiff of an inappropriate relationship anywhere near them. And maybe a Corps will end up being DQ'd. That would send a message as well. Is DCI serious about this or not? I can envision a focused telephonic DCI Rules Congress could put this in place for the Summer 2018 season - perhaps new rules go into effect 15 June so Corps, clean it up by then. Some Corps may lose some instructors, staff, or potentially members. Too bad.
  36. 1 point
    How long before this thread is closed? I guess we just don't have the stomach to discuss difficult issues on this website.
  37. 1 point
    May 17, 2018 Bluecoats head to Marion, IN and Phantom Regiment heads to Macomb, IL. Bluecoats has the 4th highest average placement at Lucas Oil Stadium at 4.2, just behind The Cadets. Will they follow the path of Carolina Crown post-2013 as a perennial favorite after the 1->5 fall or are they going to follow the Phantom Regiment post-2008 path after the 1->9 drop that has then kept them in the middle of the finals pack? Speaking of Phantom Regiment, the corps has placed below its LOS average (6.7) for each of the past four seasons with 2017 matching the corps' worst performance at the stadium at #9.
  38. 1 point
    As a Naval Officer, there’s a difference though. The Navy is big on public discipline. If things like this happen in the Navy (and they do), heads will roll. And the Navy disciplines it’s leaders publicly for all to see. Ship commanding officers who get caught in inappropriate relationships are made famous for it, and not after a lengthy legal process. After Tailhook ALL Officer promotions were held up until you could prove that you weren’t there. If you were there, you were done.(I wasn’t there!)
  39. 1 point
    Did Aristotle believe dragons existed? /obscurantism
  40. 1 point
    I agree that reported accusations of this nature must be taken seriously by law enforcement, and by those whom it's initially reported to. In fact, In PA, it's the law in schools that you must follow through and take it seriously. That's there to protect the victim- and well it should be. If someone came to me, you bet I go to the police. That being said, keep in mind that the Constitution is clear that people are assumed to be innocent until proven guilty in the eyes of the law. There are also things in place to also protect the accused. They may be guilty as sin and done the crime... but they're entitled to an effective and vigorous defense if it ends up in court, for instance. I'm not trying to be mean, personal, or crazy on this, I just get very worried when I think in the back of my mind that things like the Constitution get a bit overlooked. In terms of the numbers and the statistics, the one that gobsmacks me is that according to the one study that was linked, an estimated 63 percent of sexual assaults are never reported to the police. That really makes me think and gives me pause. It just makes me very sad, to be honest. Even if it's inaccurate by a factor of 2, that's still pretty much a third of them.
  41. 1 point
    This is a great topic. In 2014 both OC and BC played Hymn of Axciom. Of course the Coats had an AMAZING show that year so all the attention for that beautiful, luscious ballad went to them and OC's version was mentioned only as a comparison. I felt that OC's version was never judged on its own. I really feel this hurt them because they were so stoked about that ballad. Granted I was a total OC homer that year. It was my son's age out year! But it still hurts today. Just sayin'... (Edit: I don't know what I was thinking by saying this happened in 2012.. was of course 2014. I'm losing my marbles apparently.)
  42. 1 point
    agree to a point as one falsely accused. In fact my biggest issue isn't what Joel did, pathetic as it is...it's how Fred wasn't open and honest with the members and parents about it
  43. 1 point
    How could anyone ever possibly know what percentage of reports are false? The majority of these things cannot be proven either way. I suspect only a very small percentage of false reports can be proven to be false, and no one is going to record it as false if they don't know one way or the other, so of course there aren't going to be many records of many false reports.
  44. 1 point
    I think it’s because women are smart enough to say no way
  45. 1 point
    Terri, that's kind of where I'm at on this whole thing. I'm not a Crossmen alum, but have several good friends who are... and I am part of the Crossmen Alumni and Friends project that happened last summer in Allentown and is scheduled again for this summer. I met Fred and his wife through this, and they are two of the nicest people I can ever hope to meet. I completely disagree with the decision to hire this Moody guy and to keep him on staff in light of his background. But I can certainly understand why people have no personal animosity toward Fred. IMO he's a good man who made a bad mistake, with the benefit of hindsight being 20/20.
  46. 1 point
    I've hidden a handful of posts due to their personal attack back and forth. PLEASE keep this important thread on topic, so it does not have to be closed.
  47. 1 point
    I heard that SQUIRREL has declared Class A for 2018.
  48. 1 point
    Bingo! Moment after moment... look away and you'll miss something. Way more interesting than move-a-little, play-a-little, bend-your-legs... and frost it all with electronic gimmickry.
  49. 1 point
    Thanks to all who offered support! I just heard his last workout before move ins tomorrow in Detroit. He’s well on his way to full recovery. And he’s in play for some featured musician roles in this year’s show. Of course that’s still up to the staff, but his Mom and I are poised for the “biggest” season of his Drum Corps experience!
  50. 1 point
    I’m going to be delicate in my response, just for you. great people don’t ####### hire individuals fired for sending inappropriate text messages to students or ignore complaints and concerns from former staff and other directors. Great people say “ I don’t care how ####### good you’ll be for my corps, you’ve got a public record of ####### inappropriate behavior with kids, of which my corps is ####### full of. Want a second chance? Go find God.”
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