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That's because NJ Govs make their money under the table! Fuh-ged-abou-did 😎

He’s not a punchline now. He’s a cautionary tale.

I feel exactly the same. Saw them rehearsing THAT day and the corps was on fire. I knew they’d bust 90 that night and not look back. I think a lot of us can’t wait to see hear and enjoy the 2019 edition.

you have to assume someone else wrote the contract to consider that

One of my family stories... swear to God, I'm not making this up... involved my mom standing up to Hoffa, basically dressing him down in public... over some issue, back in the day. My dad was a Teamsters member, and Hoffa was king to him and the others at my dad's local. But not to my mom. LOL. My dad was there, and was mortified. Understandably so, given Hoffa's....uhhhh... connections. But Hoffa actually told my mom she was right, he was wrong... and he liked and respected her for speaking up!!! Hey... my mom was a Bayonne gal. Those folks could be a bit feisty. LOL.

Like NY Giants punter Sean Landetta once said about Giants Stadium... "Gives new meaning to the term 'coffin-corner kick.''' LOL Personally, I think Mr. Hoffa is residing at the bottom of Lake Michigan.

NJ's just end up in the Pine Barrens or on the beach in a chair

This is inspiration for an edgy new show concept. From Quixote to Camus: Impossible Dreams Really are Impossible and Everything Breaks Down or Dies

Chris Ash from Rutgers football makes 2.2 million per win, giving him a 2018 salary of 2.2 million. 🏈

Yeah well we have more governors in prison. So there. 😜

oh yeah. I'm pretty sure i know where they knew to find it

Not direct competitors but holding something of a similar space in consumers' minds, I guess. Zuckerberg also made his executives all switch to Android phones after Apple's Tim Cook criticized how Facebook handled privacy issues. That sounds rather Hopkinsesque to me.

what they were able to accomplish, on the fly, from late April til the end is amazing. There never seemed to be any danger of them not being 7th early on, but as time went on and more things Cadets history/tradition got added, it gained a little more momentum every day. Then, we got back east and the ick hit the corps, that seemed to light a fire under them. I've been to almost every DCI East/Eastern Classic since it started, and some performances stand out as special. 27th in 80, BD 88, Cavies 93 in the rain, Phantom 08.....and Cadets 18. It was like that week, everything started to click, fueled on by not just the hometown crowd, or fans supporting them because of the mess, but because from the ballad out, that was good old fashioned kick ### Cadets that made everyone love them. I only wonder, if they had been able to have 2 more weeks......

I doubt that there was a morality clause in any contractual documents he potentially signed. (Insert your own jokes here)

Heck... that certainly was the case for Spiro Agnew in Maryland back in the day!!! Envelopes stuffed with cash were delivered direct to his office. Hey... why not cut out the middleman and get paid up front.

Detroit

Like those old Smith Barney commercials..."he did it the old fashioned way; he earned it."

Really? I hadn’t heard that

No. But he was director there 35 years. And there in other capacities since ‘79, I believe. That’s a long time. ‘79 was my ageout year. I’m 61. He was there from my being 21 to practically ready to collect social security.

"plaintiff prays for a judgement"...on page 12. pray hard

sad it came to this yes, but it finally forced drum corps to wake up to these issues we've all discussed to death on here. Sadly sometimes you have to hit rock bottom before you can get back to the top

God bless these women. I went through a trial and it wasn’t pleasant. I hope their outcome is better than mine. At least, people are more aware and supportive than they were in the ‘60’s.

Thinking Henry Ford seeing a Chevy in the Ford plants parking lot. Next day no Chevy and no person who drove it. But come from an auto background

Ahh the good ole days....😉 Today IF you are a weapon or a flag to get through auditions you pretty much come in with a certain skill level already. Does it mean EVERYONE is at the same level? sometimes, often not but are told to come back working on what needs to be worked on Not unusual in the guard world You're right about the old days....gave opportunity to hands-on work with a person early. Sometimes their fall or winter activity will also help them today

Fortunately, last season I think has given us a pretty good idea of what they will be able to accomplish in 2019.

back to the behind bars angle. Anyone think he might be looking to sling some band candy for the bands while he is locked up?

Thanks as couldn’t remember who said it. And thanks to NY Daily News for reporting it. Weird childhood memory involved Hoffa. Went to the family reunion and had to drive near Allenwood Prison to get there. Mom said joking maybe Hoffa will wave out the window at us. I thought she was serious and pictured all these prisoners waving at cars as they drove by.

Makes me wonder where Jimmy Hoffa is, now that Giant's Stadium has been torn down.

Don’t have to wear seat belts either. Keep remembering the gov that got in a wreck and told my dad it was like the wreck he has in the army. Went to sleep in the back seat and woke up in the front.

https://www.businessinsider.com/highest-paid-public-job-every-state-college-football-basketball-2018-3 "Eight basketball coaches and 31 football coaches made the list, representing 39 out of 50 states." Mike

Well here's an interesting thread...

The only GH photo I ever want to see is a mugshot.

Sync rights...what if the video was silent and audio was live from the corps? I see possibilities for a sequel of BD 2012....

Which gives a great example of what can happen when you're not handcuffed.

$199k is not an absurd amount for a non-profit the size of YEA. Now there is an argument to be made that it was too much for GH because he was known to be a horrible CEO, but it isn't an absurd salary for that position by any stretch

Not a lawyer either, but I have a gut feeling that he may indeed be owed unused vacation time and that sort of stuff he theoretically "earned" while employed with YEA. The severance will be the the center of the lawsuit, IMO. I hope the old board did not place YEA at risk by "accepting" his resignation.

Sis just texted and in local Harrisburg online paper (pennlive) as GH has been a local for a while. Nasty tailed comments rolling in from people who have no idea what a dc is.

This is not my area of expertise, but why the heck would YEA BoD ever agree to such a huge severance package in the first place?

I’m very excited to see what the design staff comes up with knowing their creativity is unleashed.

Somebody did a study once If I recall, it showed that Hop was, by far, the most highly-paid director. I remember discussion at the time focused on the other profit-making entities (primarily USBs) and Hop's responsibilities in "running" them as businesses for justification of his higher pay. Most directors that get paid make fractions of this, and many, very many, get paid little or nothing.

Carmel boring? I loved it and the focus on music, and fidelity to originals. Prompted me to dig out my Lorin Maazel/Berlin Philharmonic "The Ring without Words" CD (highly recommended).

Though some people loved the uniforms, others were less than thrilled, and the uniforms were ordered prior to someone’s departure. So there was one reminder. That being said, as someone who saw Cadets early in the last season and at Allentown and Indy, the changes throughout the season made sense and worked, which was a huge departure from the recent past, so how a complete season without the former director will be interesting to see.

This isn't it.

I fear the Hopocalypse has a way to go before we can be sure the cancer is excised. That said - Slay the dragons. All of them - no matter wherever nor whoever they are. Bad news NEVER gets better with age - & DCI needs to realize this

This is the MO of a lot of sex offenders.

Those were fun theater events, and I would always encourage our students to go. Especially when they did the one where it was something like 2 or 3 from each decade (70s, 80s, 90s, 00s).

About as much as 24 pages on BOA/Tarpon Spring, but that's DCP I guess.

I respect George Hopkins! The guy has a lot of passion and is doing a great job with his drum corps. I actually think it's great that he has occasional stumbles socially. I bet he is a really nice guy in person too. I might poke fun at some of his ideas but all in all I really do respect the guy.

Then, again in full and fair disclosure, is one of his guiding principles of the G7 report (dated May, 2010): "The premier corps are critical to the organization's success. As such, the opinion of these same corps is most important and needs to be valued. It is not wise, or appropriate, that each of the current world class corps have a vote that holds equal influence. Those who sell tickets, those who generate sales, those who are most marketable -need also to control a larger portion of the vote on business and adjudication issues." "Governance needs to be weighted to allow those who drive success to affect decisions." In other words, he and his 6 compatriots ARE the show, want more of the money that DCI generates from the tour for themselves, and want organizational and business decisions weighted towards their opinions because, as the "Premier Corps", they have demonstrated superior knowledge, foresight, and understanding of what it takes (and will take) to drive the drum corps activity successfully into the future. This narcissism is one of the reasons why Hop is consistently a punch line.

The punch line comes from a two-part video that went viral amongst us DCP denizens maybe three years ago...the one with the two cartoon bears where someone could enter their own dialogue and see the bears move their lips and recite what was entered. The answer for all sorts of questions was, "George Hopkins." Check out 6:35 through 7:12.As for the bad rap part...I think it's because George has been willing to say, write and propose things that many other directors wanted to say, write and propose, but didn't have the guts to do so. George is quite passionate about throwing things out there and seeing what sticks, in the belief that in doing so, things more forward. He got a lot of grief over proposing amplification and then electronics, but those were things many others wanted, but didn't want to stick their necks out. However, those proposals passed and even some who voted "no" at the DCI Rules Congresses were hopeful they would pass, but voted "no" for a variety of reasons...such as to not honk off their fan base. I've written this more than once...If George Hopkins didn't exist, we would have to invent him.