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  1. I do not share your opinion on political posts. DCP was not/is not provided to serve as a political ideology weapon. People come here to discuss news, etc. related to Marching Music. Thousands of other Message Board opportunities exist to espouse whatever view point one desires, including many sites that are not moderated. I suggest some posters here just go to those sites. There is NO politically-motivated message posted here than cannot be discredited in some way, with EQUALLY valid counterpoints. Many who post here merely parrot what they have seen/heard elsewhere. Some are trying to “work this audience.” We don’t need that. It will be tough enough to keep this site going until the corps are performing again, without turning-off half of all users due to political garbage taking over. Moderators here are doing the best they can. For the first time in 15 years, I have now used the “REPORT” button a few times and will continue.
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  2. Imagine how the audience will react to the first corps that performs after the hiatus - let alone all the other corps that perform. The audience will be putty in their hands. Dogs and cats on DCP will unite. Ok - that last part may be stretching it a bit.
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  3. . . . 2021 drum corps performing with 25% fewer marching members. minimal props. smaller pit equipment requirements. multi-year uniform designs. 3 year old brass and percussion instruments. limited, basic amplification. occasional re-use of a music selection the following year. just one extended traveling tour. ____ I sure will ! Older, long term, fans jumped out of their seats screaming for many years with that same product. Who knew? 🤔
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  4. 1992 was the only year I experienced DCI 'from the inside.' Crossmen 1992 was an amazing corps to be part of. The buzz around our season from day one was special, and the reputation of the show has held up over the years, especially the outstanding performance of Mark Thurston's percussion section, which scored an incredible 9.7 in Field Percussion for 2nd in that caption on Finals night. The program 'Songs for the Planet Earth' added a unified concept to the show design without sacrificing the jazz groove we'd become known for in recent years. Tim 'Shorty' Bartholomew and his cast of seasoned Cadets and Star brass veterans introduced Don Van Doren 'breathe-dah' technique to the brass line. Both the inventions of a new, talented visual writer named John Milauskis and Matt Krempasky's original contribution and haunting arrangement of a New Age chorale were also strong contributions to the success of the program. We had a heady opening to the season, trading victories with the Cadets of Bergen County up through early July. The mid-season was difficult, as we started to meet corps which quite frankly had better overall talent than we did (with the exception of the aforementioned drumline). The question was how our staff and membership would respond to the challenge. Would we meet it or fold up? Beginning in late July, the strength of our production and our commitment to get better, cleaning and tweaking the show nearly up to the last moment, pushed us over two far more storied corps which that year were saddled with unusually average show design. But this year was strong across the board. The Cavaliers won their first championship with their visual and percussion fireworks, but there is so much else to talk about. If you were there as a performer, a staff member, or a fan, you know what I mean. And so I will let you have at it. Ladies and gentlemen, 1992!
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  5. The perseverance and drive of that group of kids and staff, which finished the season with only one drill set left the same as the start of the season, is part of the reason there was still a bluecoats taking the field in 2019. There is no coincidence that the Penny tradition started that year and means so much.
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  6. good is good. i jut watched 77 finals the other day, then watched 18 the next day.
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  7. oh man 92. one of my all time favorite years. saw the east coast gang a few times early, then saw Star added in at Hershey....holy ####. however my favorite memory of that night was Hannum asked if he could squeeze in by us to watch Crossmen, and we said sure...and when the snares hit the flam 5's he swore out loud and laughed. A great memory! then East...Star still looked like they were running away with it, tho Cadets had the usual late season surge brewing..Madison with the better coA and SCV....oh the bottle dance...and Crossmen. the question mark was in! the show seemed to have momentum growing like 91...would they maintain? Bloo and Freelancers seemed to be solidifying their spots in Saturday night. then....a crazy plane ride to Madison for the coldest finals on record...but what a finals! Cavies with the first win, but man Cadets and Star were sooooo good too. bD's percussion seemed ot be holding them back, and madison/Phantom/SCV Crossmen had a little battle going on. Glassmen keeping it interesting on Thursday. some of those non top 12 shows were good! Troop, Colts starting what led to the next season, Magic, and to this day i adore Southwind's Robin Hood. and VK. that and SCV with the bottle dance are 2 of the 4 loudest crowd reactions i have personally been in the stands for. Friday saw more shuffling...Saturday more, plus i am sure sweatshirt sales in the souvie area were strong! and to add to it all...the Camp Randall magic. the battle for the top...i loved em all, didn't care. knowing many people in and teaching Crossmen i marked out for the jump to 6th. disappointed in how some fans chose to revel in Star falling to 3rd as opposed to cheering for Cavies and Cadets. Just a #### solid year up and down the ladder with more than a few shows that have become all time classics
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  8. they lit Franklin Field up that night
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  9. Although I am tickled by the idea that JL's three shows, for instance, would be listed as , , and .
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  11. Lucked out in this pet loving state. Cannot go into the groomers shop but she can come out in the parking lot to pick the dog up. Just means I have to pay by cash as can’t get to the credit card machine. Guessing if grooming (and nails) is needed for dogs health it is essential but groomer had to pass a social distancing test (why I can’t enter the shop) for a waiver to open. Friend has two Yorkies and her shop just got a waiver. Just in time as she says the dogs can’t see for the hair in the eyes. Pet stores also open and nephew consider essential as he mixes dry dog food for Purina.
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  12. Not what you meant, but boats and slopes make me think of this:
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  13. How’s that Bichon doing by now? Need a grooming?
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  14. As long as no one drives into my walk in shower.
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  15. Oh, man - I've been waiting for this one. 🙂 Very few years can match '92 for overall quality down the line. In my personal list, I'd put them on par with '95, '02 and '18 - not a weakness in the bunch. Cavaliers, of course, won their first championship on the back of a stunning visual program and an ahead-of-their-time battery. The hornline hardly brought up the rear either - they were much improved from previous years. It didn't hurt that the full-scale revolution (hah!) in DCI programming was in swing this year, though it's '93 where it finally broke through. Gavorkna Fanfare was unlike any opener every played by a championship corps to that point, including Star's dramatic emphasis on technical playing the year before. My personal favorite was Scottish Dances, as the geometry of the drill was simply inspired. Cadets snuck in to 2nd with a passionate and very hammer-over-the-head GE program. Man, it was good though. I have no idea about demographic data, but it just "felt" like a young corps (or maybe a young-to-DCI corps) that found its legs as the summer went on. Holsinger was definitely a stylistic shift for them, but it sure felt like the right choice. Star veered towards the mainstream in a year where everyone else veered away. The show is legendary, of course, for the reactions it caused in DCI fandom. As a production, though, it's got all of the classic Star elements, and for most of us, the first time (either ever, or at least in many years) that they had a full battery. And man did they bring heat. Blue Devils are really a Tale of Two Halves in '92. Cuban Fire was a classic BD-Jazz suite, and a really entertaining one too. The battery felt messy at points, but the "feel" of the show was on point. And then, of course, the closer, which was as much of a statement of "because we can" as anything else. Love, love, love this show - have listened to it probably a couple of hundred times at this point. Madison revamped City of Angels, and ... well... latin jazz'ed it up. The brass came across night and day better than the year before - every note just felt tight and exact. #### near like a sonic laser. The battery's feature in Funny is an all-time classic that DCI and Flo still use occasionally during breaks. Kudos to the arrangers this year - they took the skeleton from 1991 and made it into a fully armed and operational battle station. Crossmen's battery. Enough said. One of the all time greats. I managed to snag a handwritten copy of the score to the drum feature a few years ago - I feel like framing it. I mean, the rest of the show featured a massive brass upgrade from 1991 (which was a massive upgrade from 1990) and a very sophisticated program built around it, but ... yeah. Battery. Santa Clara went retro, and it's a fun, fun watch. It's not going to reinvent anyone's notion of drum corps, but honestly - it's just an entertaining show. I can't really find fault in their performance, but I think they probably were rightly placed in 7th. They were cleaner than Phantom, and not as sophisticated as Crossmen. Phantom... leaves me conflicted. I absolutely adore this show, and I still think of the closer as the "definitive" 1812 arrangement. That said, it's painfully obvious that it's built on the back of arrangements used many years before, and the drum feature was just an absolute mess. It feels harsh to my heart to say they deserved 8th on the night, but... in the cold light of day they probably were, even before being slotted-to-their-face by the judges. Blue Knights are definitely the ugly duckling of the finals lineup, and it's not very fair to them. They had to go on, of course, after VK, and people still weren't ready for the hardcore symphonic stuff they were bringing. The middle segment of the show has a lot in common with their "Because" show decades later, in that they kind of discard the traditional 4-act structure of drum corps and push and pull the parts around. It definitely gives you a bit of a time-warp feeling when you watch it - I'd have believed you if you'd told me the show was 9 minutes long. Or 15 minutes. Closer was my favorite part - I love what they did with a classic Wind Ensemble tune. VK's finals swan-song was everything and the kitchen sink. (Or did they throw that in during a later year?) Great music pulled along an all-over-the-place visual package. Having worked for a corps that also bucked convention, I don't know how they got judges to go along with it. Other than just ... being good. Bluecoats' first foray into The Beatles was, forgive me, a mess. It's one of those shows where "I know they're trying to tell me something, but ###### if I know what." Yes, I'm being smarmily superior, but they did managed to upgrade a little bit the next time they tried it. Finally, Freelancers stayed in finals with Walton's 1st Symphony. I don't know who did their percussion books, but they had a great ear for adding all sorts of fun little timbers and effects that sound normal to us now, but at the time not many peers were doing. And like the year before, they looked marvelous on the field. Honorable mentions go to Glassmen's new age program (that might have been better than their '93 finalist breakthrough) and Boston's *almost* there Russian show. 92-93-94 Boston puts me on edge for being juuuuust on the precipice. I'll have more ...controversial... opinions, I think, for 1993 - The Year DCI Got Really Weird. Mike
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  16. You must have been driving the window company truck I rear-ended on the way to McDonald's.
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  17. Here's some fun... a look at last year's April camp
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  18. Let's watch drum corps shows! Cavaliers - Gavorkna Fanfare, Closer of Peterloo Overture Cadets of Bergen County - Semis Run Star of Indiana - Finals Hi-Cam Blue Devils - Finals Run, Concord Pavilion, Western Corps Connection, Early Season Victory Run Madison Scouts - Finals Run Crossmen - Finals Run, Quarterfinals Run, DCI East Finals, Pre-Season Run at DCA Show in Jersey City, NJ Santa Clara Vanguard - Concord Pavilion, Western Corps Connection, Bottle Dance at Finals Phantom Regiment - Wyandotte, MI Blue Knights - Western Corps Connection Velvet Knights - Western Corps Connection, DCI Finals Bluecoats - DCI Finals Freelancers - Western Corps Connection Glassmen - Madre Boston Crusaders - Rehearsal Run-Through Sky Ryders Spirit of Atlanta Marauders - Longview WA, DCI Quarterfinals Dutch Boy - Canadian Open, DCI Quarterfinals Troopers - DCI Quarterfinals (audio only - marked 1991, but is 1992 show) Colts Magic of Orlando - DCI Quarterfinals (Clip only) Southwind Black Gold - DCI Quarterfinals Northern Aurora Carolina Crown - Last 2 minutes or so of show Mandarins - DCI Division II/III Championships Kiwanis Kavaliers - DCI Division II Prelims Spartans Limited Edition Arizona Sun - DCI Division II Prelims Allegiance Elite Railmen - DCI Division II Prelims Adding more soon!
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  19. sure you can. i see people walk thru that drive thru all the time
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  20. I wrecked my parents' Subaru in Rockford, on my way up to Wisconsin for DCI. That was memorable.
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  21. So you're asking if I would cheer for a 1980's or '90's show? Heck yeah I would!
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  22. Always enjoyed the smaller corps anyway. More interesting when you put on a show with what you have available instead of having everything to choose from. More interesting show design imo
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  23. I can’t imagine fans noting a difference in new vs 3 year old instruments.
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  24. Under some of those conditions, will probably cheer louder.
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  25. It's sure easy to tell who the dinos are on this thread. Great trio. I'd back up one year, though. 1978 Madison ( all tunes you could hum along with ) 1979 North Star 1980 27th Lancers
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  27. That was almost my 70s consecutive list: 74 Kingsmen, 75 SCV, 76 BD. Excellent choices.
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  28. Years ago, there were a few weeks when the BD Mediabox had the 'BD Through The Years' staff interviews free on the site. One of the more fascinating tidbits was hearing Jay Murphy tell the story of how Don Sebesky's 'Bird and Bela in B Flat' was recommended to him as a potential BD chart by none other than George Zingali. As the BD staff tossed around ideas in fall of 1990, Murphy apparently gave Wayne Downey the record, leaving out, of course, the identity of the person who gave him the idea. The rest, as they say...
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  29. What is it with '70s Margarine commercials? Was it the drugs?
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  30. I endorse this announcement & plan to attend.
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  31. Pumps to get it out of the ground and refining it. Weird info I heard when gas demand was higher. Lot of our refineries need upgraded but the companies would lose too much money in a temporary shutdown. So keep refining in an inefficient way.....
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  32. I saw a few shows in 1991, but it was nothing compared to my 1990 year. My first live show of that season was the Philadelphia show held at Franklin Field, University of Pennsylvania on June 29. One of my friends was still living in Philly, and 2 other buddies of mine, from music school, and I drive out to Philly to meet up and see our first show that season. Most of us were blown away by Phantom Regiment. Incredible talent in that corps that year. We also loved Crossmen who were a very HOT corps for much of the season. We were underwhelmed by Cadets, but in fairness the show was a stretch at that time, and by the end of the season they were able to polish the ballad into a nice feature. Their Prelude, Fugue, and Riffs was also a blast to see later in the season. But at this show they needed a lot of work and a lot of re-writes. Spirit of Atlanta was also one of my favorite shows of 1991. I remember Phantom Regiment's victory encore to this day. It has to be one of the best encore performances from those years...and easily one of the most powerful. They blew the roof off that stadium and my ears were sore for days after that. WOW! Scores from that show are below. -------------- Saturday, June 29 -------------- Philadelphia, PA DCE Independence Classic 1 Phantom Regiment 78.0 2 Cadets of Bergen Cty. 74.1 3 Crossmen 69.3 4 Spirit of Atlanta 63.3 5 Dutch Boy 62.6 6 Boston Crusaders 59.0 7 Ventures 53.5 8 L'Insolite 52.5 As I kept up with scores through DCW or phone (or maybe RAMD) it was nice to hear that Crossmen were winning some shows and beating some big names. Not sure what happened with them (as others have mentioned) after DCI East. Crossmen actually won the Drum Corps East championship held in Boston. Boston, MA DCE DCE Championship Finals 1 Crossmen 83.1 2 Cadets of Bergen Cty. 82.9 3 Dutch Boy 74.4 4 Spirit of Atlanta 73.6 5 Boston Crusaders 72.0 6 Magic of Orlando 67.2 7 L'Insolite 66.5 I was unable to attend the local shows in Canton that year (forget why), and 2 of my friends were serving in the National Guard and were called into duty and had to fly to Saudi for a 9-month stint during the 1st Gulf War. My next live show was on July 20 in DeKalb, IL for the DCM Championships. Star of Indiana was truly incredible. They blew me away in 1990, and their 1991 show might have been even better. The brass, percussion, guard, music arrangements by Jim Prime, Jr., the drill by George Zingali...it was like the best and most complete competitive package I'd ever seen. BD, Cadets, SCV were all amazing in the 80s, but I felt this was the next step up. I still feel this show holds its own to this day despite not being as theatrical as today's shows. Score for DCM below. DeKalb, IL DCM DCM Championships 1 Star of Indiana 84.5 2 Cavaliers 82.9 3 Phantom Regiment 82.5 4 Madison Scouts 80.8 5 Bluecoats 76.6 6 Glassmen 68.1 Keep in mind that all these corps were really good in 1991. Phantom was amazing, and the Cavaliers show was stunningly beautiful with fantastic drill and music. But none of them were a match for Star. It was clear to me after this show that the Championship went through Star of Indiana. Madison's City of Angels show was excellent, but not quite the GE monster it would become in 1992. The difference between Phantom and Cavaliers, I thought, was visual. Cavaliers just had a more thought-out and dynamic visual package that enhanced GE in a big way. I did not attend the Preview of Champions show in Madison, WI on July 27, but I heard many of the negative rumblings about how fans treat Star of Indiana at that show. Apparently there were a lot of "boos" and other mean-spirited comments made. Star's show from 91 may look more mainstream to us today, but at that time many did not like it. Felt they were too modern, felt they were cheating by playing with the arrangements in a way that "somehow" made it easier to get points. I actually overheard a conversation to this extent at the DCM Finals in Dekalb. It was like listening to two guys share "old wives tales" in order to convince themselves that somehow Star was cheating. People were adjusting. Some did not like that Star had become this good in such a short period of time. Some did not like that they were beating corps who had struggled to earn their keep in DCI over the years. Some felt they were poaching kids and staff from other corps. My read on that was that a lot of corps back in the day tried to recruit kids from various other corps. Kids to this day often want to march their age-out year in Blue Devils (if they are good enough) instead of staying with their current corps. Ultimately it's the choice of the marching member. And in Star's case a lot of the poaching stories were not accurate. If you watch one of the documentaries on how they got the 1985 corps off the ground, they had agreements with Bridgemen and Pride of Cincinnati to offer a place for their members to march since both corps were in trouble. The following is a quote from the DCI website on that first production. "Star of Indiana's first show was the lighthearted "Walt Disney Salute," entirely comprised of music written for Disney films. The corps turned to arrangers Larry Kerchner, Dennis DeLucia and Bob Dubinski, all three who had roots in the Bridgemen. Close to half the corps' first-year membership was made up of ex-Bridgemen members, with another sizeable number coming from the Pride of Cincinnati, which did not field a corps after the summer of 1984." Ultimately I felt that Star's business model was something sorely needed in the activity and would ultimately help other organizations operate more professionally. But at the time there was a lot of jealousy and a lot of misinformation. Maybe they picked up their toys and left after 1993, but what they did after that was beneficial to the marching arts (Brass Theater and Blast!), and while I was not thrilled with them leaving DCI (they were just too good) I did appreciate Bill Cook and all that he did for DCI over the years, even after 1993. Whether you like him or Star, DCI learned a lot during the Star era, and Bill continued to be very generous with his money and time. I was angered at those fans who I had heard were booing Star at the Preview of Champions show. There were points in 1993 where much the same thing happened. My next live show was in Buffalo, NY (about a 3 hour drive for me at the time). The show was not at Rich Stadium but at a AAA baseball stadium in downtown where (at that time) the Cleveland Indians played their minor league home games. It was a nice stadium but an odd setup for a DCI show. Phantom was still amazing and just needed something in the visual department to enhance that fabulous music they were playing. Cadets had come a long way and were beginning to make sense of the show, but it was still not in the ballpark with Phantom. Crossmen continued to be one of my favorite shows and I still thought they could have beat Cadets. Scores below: Buffalo, NY DCI 1 Phantom Regiment 87.0 2 Cadets of Bergen Cty. 85.4 3 Crossmen 84.9 4 Glassmen 70.2 5 L'Insolite 69.5 6 Colts 64.5 7 Ventures 60.4 8 Spartans - NH 50.2 I did not attend DCI East, but getting word of scores was shocking to see that Crossmen had beat Blue Devils and were still close to Cadets. But in reality, that Crossmen corps was GREAT! Solid in all captions and really fun music. -------------- Saturday, August 3 -------------- Allentown, PA DCI DCI East Prelims 1 Cavaliers 90.9 2 Cadets of Bergen Cty. 88.4 3 Crossmen 87.9 4 Blue Devils 87.7 5 Blue Knights 82.2 6 Spirit of Atlanta 79.4 7 Velvet Knights 78.7 8 Boston Crusaders 77.2 9 Marauders 72.8 10 Troopers 69.6 11 Colts 69.2 12 Black Gold 60.6 13 Beatrix 57.5 At DCI East Finals Crossmen and Blue Devils would tie and they pushed Cadets into 4th. Allentown, PA DCI DCI East 1 Cavaliers 91.0 2 Crossmen 87.9 ^ Blue Devils 87.9 4 Cadets of Bergen Cty. 87.8 5 Blue Knights 81.6 6 Velvet Knights 78.6 7 Spirit of Atlanta 78.1 8 Boston Crusaders 77.6 9 Marauders 71.7 10 Troopers 69.3 It was clear the Cavaliers were at a different level due to fabulous performers and a killer show design that worked magic in visual and GE. My final LIVE show of the season was on August 7 in Bloomington, IN. This was the DCI Mid-America show and it is where Star of Indiana put the final touches on the Cross-to-Cross closing drill that is now so famous for being one of the coolest and most demanding show endings in history. I drove solo to the event from Ohio and met a buddy who drove up from Atlanta. We saw an afternoon clinic with Star and were simply amazed and stunned. The evening performance left no doubt in my mind who was winning the title that year. We also loved Santa Clara. It was my first and only time to see them, and that Miss Saigon show was killer good and really well designed. This was also my only time to see Blue Devils and I love that show. From a music standpoint it is killer good. Great brass. Percussion was not quite there with the top contenders, but was still fun to watch and very good. Visual design in those days was not BD's strong point, but they always had fabulous performers. It was always a joy to see Freelancers since I rarely ever got to see them in the Midwest. I felt Dutch Boy missed the boat that year. Scores as follows: Bloomington, IN DCI DCI Mid-America 1 Star of Indiana 93.5 2 Santa Clara Vanguard 91.7 3 Madison Scouts 90.4 4 Blue Devils 90.3 5 Bluecoats 86.4 6 Freelancers 85.5 7 Dutch Boy 81.6 8 Boston Crusaders 80.7 9 Glassmen 75.3 10 L'Insolite 74.4 11 Troopers 73.9 12 Black Gold 64.6 13 Beatrix 59.4 I watched Finals on PBS and I believe this was the year where we got to see 7 corps for Finals due to a tie between Madison and Cadets or something like that. In the end, Cavaliers were the only corps to really challenge Star but I felt Star was simply unbeatable. They had one of the truly amazing shows in DCI History and I think that holds up to this day. Phantom would power their way into 3rd mostly on the strengths of their fantastic performers. SCV was 4th despite having a better designed show than PR, but PR performed their tail-ends off that night. They would do that again in 1993 to take 3rd in a performance that would light the crowd-up like a Christmas tree. PR 1993 is slightly better design, too. Not sure I want to discuss Phantom 1992, but I do have lots of thoughts on the 1992 season. 1991 however was fun but not thrilling for me, but I did enjoy many shows. Not sure what happened with Crossmen after DCI East. But Star of Indiana and Cavaliers were certainly two of the best highlights for me that summer.
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  33. Like so many of you, I cancelled a flight for later this month. No change fees for re-booking at a later date. So, this morning, I re-booked. Here’s what happened. Since I re-booked for a later date, there will also be no change fee, even if I later have to re-book the new tickets! I receive a full purchase refund on the old tickets, to use towards the new tickets. Now, the real surprise . . . All tickets for the summer and beyond have already been reduced. My original April trip is now happening in October. But . . . I will now fly to the same destination in First Class, rather than Main Cabin Extra . . . . and with a savings of $400 from the original tickets! No, I will not name the airline. I’ll be changing a different trip tomorrow! If you have a re-booking to make, I suggest you check your airlines’ options now. Any other savings tips to add due to the unusual situation we find ourselves in?
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  34. Thanks for this. I am a long time fan of the Scouts. (Who isn't) I appreciate that you weren't afraid to ask some difficult questions and that Chris didn't seem to avoid them. I can understand that he's not really a fan of DCP (neither am I at times), but I hope he knows that many of the opinions directed at him are not an attack of him personally, but are views from some very passionate fans of the Scouts. (Although some, unfortunately, are indeed a personal attack.) Glad to hear that the Scouts are in a better financial state than we may have thought. (All things considered, of course.) I look forward to seeing the 2021 Scouts. Would like for you to do a similar interview with some other directors and with Dan Acheson.
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  35. So that Suncoast truck went to Carolina Crown, then Jersey Surf. It's still on the road.
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  36. Took one to the groomer last week. The older one (15+) took his last liver pill today. He rounded third base last year and is very close to home. No more groomer for him, but our scissors do a great job around his two eyes which only gives him about 10-15% of seeing ability do to cataracts. I drop his leash about 60 yards from home (he's trying to take off sooner), but he knows where to go and make the left turn for a straight sprint to the door.
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