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  1. I think Craiga's post earlier in this thread sum up my feelings too. 2021 was a Blast! Too short unfortunately, but a blast nonetheless. But his general comment about corps having to appeal to 16 to 21 year old youth is very true. The activity survives by first finding people who wish to march. The fans are important too and do provide the revenue needed to tie it all together. As with most things in life you can't control innovation, change, style, etc. when it comes to the design process of a show. This is because influences come from all over. They come from past years of classic drum corps, which we got to see quite a bit of this past summer, and they come from today's music scene including art, theater, dance and more. The 70s in America were different from the 80s, the 90s, and on and on. There is no way of controlling that in a free enterprise. The imagination is a powerful thing. What 2021 may have done, however, is show designers that sometimes the old becomes new again...just like in life. Uniforms can be a powerful thing. Music with long phrases and easily discernable melodies and harmonies can be powerful. Audiences react to those things. Field drill in a traditional sense has not died yet. These are all good things and I am sure designers will incorporate these things for years to come. But just as pop music (and other styles) changes over the course of time, and just as art and theater change over time, so will the imagination of what can be done at the DCI level. It can be done well and still be entertaining. In 2019 the Bluecoats and Blue Devils were plenty entertaining. I believe 2022 will be a blast! Fingers crossed for a full and amazing season.
    9 points
  2. I understand what you are saying here, but Regiment didn't abandon their style. All Black, All White, a few combinations - even the tan years - none of it left you wondering who it was marching on the field. I liked how they started using small accents to customize to show themes while never abandoning the identity embedded in their uniforms and headgear. You could argue the same for SCV pre-2018...
    7 points
  3. Now for something completely different. I know no one cares besides me but this is my favorite musical moment of 2019. https://youtu.be/ZlEW28HxMME
    6 points
  4. The entire design team is returning
    6 points
  5. I could literally smell the Kilties coming.
    5 points
  6. I visited a spring training this year, and other rehearsals, and it is so different that the old school days. When students arrive they get checked out by medical staff. They get an arrival pack that includes a water jug which must be with them at every rehearsal block. They begin visual rehearsal with stretching, stretching and more stretching and a little yoga. Water breaks are constant throughout the day. They travel with an MD and 2 PT’s. They are fed well with dietary needs provided for. They get a good amount of down time to recover from long rehearsal days.
    5 points
  7. The Beatles gig was cool but I think I am kinda' over it now. Bluecoats from 2014 to present day have just been OUTSTANDING in their selection of music. The props of the last 3 years have maybe been a bit much for the first time viewer, but they adapt quickly. I remember Britt leaning over to me in 2019 in Atlanta and saying something along the lines of "Why are there big wheels of cheese? Why am I hungry? Can you go get me another beer?" I really hope that Bloo continues to innovate and bring their unique design perspective to life. Just please....please...no more sheer white spandex onesies. I think we have all seen enough of the horror that is spandex in drum corps...especially in DCA.
    5 points
  8. Strongly disagree. I believe judges are committed to award the appropriate score, given the criteria they have been given. Moreover, I believe judges want to help the adjudicated to achieve the best score they can. I also believe judges give the appropriate scores based on the what and the how, caption by caption, of what the established criteria dictate.
    5 points
  9. I’ve adapted but I still think they can turn down the volume. Here’s a good way to tell if it’s too loud: people are putting their fingers into their ears because it’s so loud it hurts.
    5 points
  10. By the beginning of August, the mold patterns on the inside lining of our cadets made good Rorschach tests. I don't think they truly dried out until sometime after Halloween.
    4 points
  11. Absolutely. Who judges the judges? I thought they eliminated critique? Let me put it this way; a corps doing complex drill cleanly while playing should be scored higher on demand than a corps lunging on scaffolding and ramps. It seems a lot of corps doing more "judgeable" content don't get "score". Corps playing more ensemble rather than front ensemble CONSANTLY bridging movements that could and should have been played by the entire corps. I could go on and on but it SEEMS we could have a debate on what is judgeable content and demand.
    4 points
  12. I'm not against modern DCI. There are numerous examples of shows where the activity moved forward yet was so entertaining. This is one of the best.
    4 points
  13. I judge a corps' arrogance or humility entirely on how the staff members behave while the corps is performing 🙂. Such as whether any of them stand right in front of my seat and either scream a lot or talk to each other about what's working and not working. No problems with BD from me.
    4 points
  14. I don’t have a left nut as far as I know but I would love to have gotten off the school buses.
    3 points
  15. I would agree that in general there is little public outcry by the corps about scores and placement publicly, though over the years a few directors have made their feelings known, but privately is another matter. I have never spoken with anyone associated with SCV and Blue Devils about scores and placement, but I have had enough casual conversations with folks from other corps to know there is some displeasure with scoring and a belief that judges are biased against some corps. I don’t think the disagreement is with the sheets but how some judges interpret the sheets. I think we all know there are two corps who believe that there should be more than just one championship under their belts. Some corps believe that judges don’t want to see them move up, and when you speak with these folks, they give very specific reasons for what they believe. It’s genuine disagreement, not sour grapes. For me, I can usually understand who places where and why, though there are times I disagree, and if I vent on this site, someone will usually point out to me I am not a judge and that’s true. We also have areas we may know better and some where we do not know much. I’m usually on target with brass, but unless it is a glaring problem, I don’t pick up on percussion errors. That certainly impacts our personal points of view. I would like to see more variation in scores and placement. I went to Atlanta one year and the following night attended NightBEAT. The corps were good, but appeared tired and were not as strong as the previous night, but all corps but one scored higher. It’s rare you see scores go down and often it’s due to a penalty. Corps do make progress throughout the season, but corps also have off nights or make changes which are not yet clean even though down the road it may be the reason for a victory. I’d like to see these things reflected in scores.
    3 points
  16. Road to Perdition.....Northern Lights Winter guard did it I think in 04 and youre right..Just as haunting as the original...great moment..at least in my opinion.. 🙂
    3 points
  17. Corps live and die by the sword in regards to what is on the sheets. It would be pretty lame for corps X have a meltdown about their scoring if they were part of deciding on what is being scored, no? All I’m saying is after what the 2021 season gave us, when “creativity” was allowed to reign supreme, that the corps would perhaps take some of that feedback and rethink the sheets. While the marching members of 2021 did amazing things the paying fans did too to keep the activity we love so much alive.
    3 points
  18. MikeD marched that show, and may have posted the official three-digit numbers for temperature and humidity on the field. Wait, found one such post:
    3 points
  19. Anyone who did not suffer heat stroke at least once did not have the full Drum Corp experience! 1971 VFW Dallas - Cotton Bowl - OMG - Dead. I'm curious though. What do the kids today do to have better preparation and physical conditioning? We just did calisthenics and stretching.
    3 points
  20. Resistance is futile. We are the Borg, you will wear our uniforms and shakos.
    3 points
  21. So good to see Michael James in the mix. He knows Phantom. He is a paramount fixture of beloved Phantom shows from before. Thank you Michael for being a part of Phantom again. You prior contribution helped the audience to love the guard and the corps even more. It's so great to see you with the corps again. You are an integral part of why people have loved this corps. I know your contribution will make many love it even more.
    3 points
  22. 3 points
  23. Good point. I sit in the last row of section 141 at LOS, right by the staff pen. One year, after their corps performed at finals, a staff member started whooping, “Yes! Devil killers! Devil killers!” I thought it was distasteful. BTW, they didn’t beat BD.
    3 points
  24. Thank you Sutasaurus. There are people on this thread who I have always admired. Side conversations have always been welcome and enjoyable. Yeah, we are on social media. It's not always bad. We have that sense of interaction that makes us kindred spirits in many ways. A thousand threads, yet someone's posts help us to relate.
    3 points
  25. Great news from Rockford/Loves Park https://regiment.org/news/
    3 points
  26. You didn’t offend anyone. No need to sign out. I’m going out on a limb here but I think Continental, whom I respect immensely, was trying to get folks to realize that what has been discussed in this thread is far from “ the worst most negative thread” on DCP. I’m still at a loss as to why expressing your honest, heartfelt opinion is met with vitriol by folks who don’t share the same opinion. You think it’s a product of what’s going on outside the drum corps society? Not disrespecting anyone’s opinion here, just asking. Donning my flame retardant suit now. I love this activity with all my heart, really and truly. I just don’t understand why we , a very small community, are so at odds.
    3 points
  27. 1995 all black uniforms....stunning. That is all
    3 points
  28. These posts are forcing me into a different kind of a 12 step program.
    2 points
  29. I had finally expelled the demons of uniform #### until I came back to marching DCA in 2005. I want to say it was in St, Cloud. The CV uni's had been "marinating" in the back of the uni trailer since Winston Salem and Kingston. I had to work and drove myself down to Florida to march the show. I step back to the uni trailer and it hits me square in the face. It was a billion degrees outside and the funk made me smile and almost puke simultaneously. Oh and to make matters worse, it rained at the show that night which "enhanced" the odiferousness by an incalculable level. I don't remember when corps members were assigned water jugs. I know I had one '89 if not in '87. But it was my own.
    2 points
  30. We sometimes had metal containers of Kool-aid-like liquid, basically flavored sugar water. For added protein, there were LOTS of bugs floating around who wanted the sugar. We called it bug juice.
    2 points
  31. I can't think of a single corps that doesn't absolutely broadcast pride and celebration in being a part of that corps before a single note is played or step is taken, regardless of what they're wearing. Any negativity about what you think should "celebrate" a corps regarding what they wear or the key of the horns they play on or anything else is 100% on you, not them.
    2 points
  32. It wasn’t pretty. And that was pre-gold bond.
    2 points
  33. Major props to the volunteers who kept our uniforms respectable.(We at ST.Rocco's Cadets) had uniforms similar in style to Garfield...yeah, they could become funky..By the time I joined the Skyliners, I was working, so I had my uni dry cleaned two or three times during the season.I used to envy Blessed Sacrament because their uniforms looked light and airy (Black and Gold)..peace
    2 points
  34. As was shown, I have commented on the 71 Dallas heat. Absolutely awful in our wool Cadet uniforms. For prelims it was 135 on the field according to two stadium workers I heard talking as we (Garfield) came onto the field. Our unis were already damp, as we had marched a Dolphin/49'er preseason halftime in Miami the week before VFWs in Dallas. It poured on us that evening, totally drenching our uniforms. There was actually a photo in one of the Miami newspapers showing our marching timpani line with water bouncing off the drums. The great folks who maintained our unis (led by Aunt Nellie!!!!) did the very best job they could to dry them out between that exhibition and VFWs, but they were still damp and sticky, on top of the heat.
    2 points
  35. You left out “Creep”. My favorite.
    2 points
  36. If I heard the phrase yelled out at practice... " water break !! ",...in my marching years, I would have thought some pregnant staffer or volunteer on the sidelines needed to be rushed to the hospital as it was time for " tossing babies " in Drum Corps.😀
    2 points
  37. ........medical staff!? physical therapists!? Wow. Happy to hear that. The kids deserve it.
    2 points
  38. I'm finding myself re-watching '21 Coats quite frequently now and I have to say, yes, the props and add-ons are substantial and maybe a little over the top, but my gosh, that show was just so impressive they didn't even catch my eye eventually. I was too focused on the talent.
    2 points
  39. That was always part of the challenge for us at CV. I remember loading up for early season shows in New Jersey. If I remember correctly, my first year we did Wildwood, NJ, Kingston, NY and somewhere down in Florida (St Cloud maybe...?) We had to do it for exposure to see where we landed against the northern corps. I honestly wish that we could grow the southern region. Even here in Chattanooga we had the Volunteers as well as Scenic City. Heck, Southwind could go DCA and would most likely be pretty dominate. I look forward to next season and hopefully seeing some of the corps back in finals.
    2 points
  40. 2 points
  41. That was an awesome show! I watched that show grow daily at ST, and man, did they kill it by finals.
    2 points
  42. DB: Because there are corps that thrive off the current sheets more than others and, it seems, because “If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with ########.” ($1 to W.C Fields). This is what some corps do rather well.
    2 points
  43. You know, as I think about it, Boston marched quite a bit in 2021 too, without a ton of props other than the disastrously distracting video board that I hope are not repeated by anyone.
    2 points
  44. and some of us adapted and are mostly fine with the activity ( on the field) now
    2 points
  45. Why must we get used to it? I think 2021 showed DCI and the competing corps staffs maybe it’s time to rethink the sheets.
    2 points
  46. I feel like most fans and performers of all corps, not just BD, are all of those positive things. DCP'ers get locked into thinking the vitriol from a handful of regs carries over to the activity as a whole. It doesn't. Most people are better than that. I don't even think that's a DCP thing...it's a social media thing. Take a snapshot of any event with thousands of people in the stands, and most of them are just there to enjoy the show from every corps. Just remember that. Looking forward to BD and every other corps next summer. Can't come soon enough for me.
    2 points
  47. I'm of the, "lets see who shows up for audition this next year". CLEARLY if they get a HUGE turnout after this last season, one would think the kids know what they want to play and do on the field. Let's get the judging sheets to start judging musical content again. This crap of playing 5 minutes ensemble and marching less and getting score needs to be addressed. The isn't America's Got Talent. Phantom's show last year was amazing. We need more amazing and less Broadway. I don't want Bluecoats or Blue Devils part 2. I think a lot of the kids last year dug it also. Not, hey I marched 5 minutes, played 5 minutes and then moved props around for 7. Be Phantom. Be what DCI should be about.
    2 points
  48. I completely disagree with you. The trend of costumes portraying a theme and/or story is IMO a colossal failure and completely unnecessary. Musical arrangements, visual drill design, and auxiliary will suffice. Props are not going to prop up a poorly designed program, no more than silly mice costumes. Designers need to consider the venue. Smaller venues like a gymnasium work better for costuming - WGI. What we learned this season is that larger venues require more uniformity for greater visual impact. Madison, Phantom, Cavaliers, Cadets and even Bluecoats uniform styles/colors created both simplicity and clarity with respect to marching design and overall visual effect. IMO less clutter more uniformity!
    2 points
  49. Every corps has those "fanboys/girls". Yes some worse than others. I have also witnessed some isolated events by members of a particular corps in a parking lot when i attended a show in SoCal back in 2007. But i don't/didn't hold the entire organization accountable for all of eternity (not accusing you of that). To this day when that corps takes the field, i cheer just as loud for them as i do any other corps performing that night. Every corps, sports team, fanbase etc, has jerks. It just seems like when one is successful and has found a winning formula to win consistently, and we can't find any dirt or skeletons in the closet, we start latching on to any little thing to bring them down and minimize their success (speaking in general, not directly at you). That's why as a BD fan, I try my best to always be respectful, friendly, and polite, ESPECIALLY on this forum. Us BD fans have to hold ourselves and each other to high standard, cause I know there are some posters (NOT ALL) wanting and waiting to pounce on anything negative about BD. And if they can't or don't have the guts to attack the corps directly, they will come after the fanbase and latch on to any little thing we say.
    2 points
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