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  1. Most of the people I've spoken to who question the need for racism policies, have never experienced racism.
    6 points
  2. I haven’t been over here for a while but lo and behold, I come over and see this. I was a volunteer for DCM championships for a few years and one of the joys of my volunteer work for them, was seeing the Joliet Kingsmen every year. A small corps from East Joliet. A corps that I believe truly saved lives. It warmed my heart see to see the faces of those kids when they’d perform and then later, watch the “big corps”. What a wonderful experience for them. Then, what wasn’t so heartwarming, was watching them crushed under the wheels of the DCI money-making machine when they absorbe
    6 points
  3. An important and exciting step for the Bluecoats. Now comes the hard part - introspection on questions like why the Bluecoats and drum corps in general doesn't reflect the diversity of the greater community; what would need to happen for the the pathway to the Bluecoats Experience to be truly accessible to students from underserved and less-resourced communities; how do we select students, what are the standards we use, and are we willing to adopt measures that level the playing field even if they require us to redefine organizational success; are we striving for equal or equitable treatment
    6 points
  4. I could care less if they are judged. It might be fun to allow an "all-out" format. Just entertain me while keeping a high standard, quality product. Give me a little 'distorted edge' on that low brass. #Loud&Proud #Park&Bark #MarchOn
    5 points
  5. As little as ten years ago, an anti-racism policy was probably issued by an organization to say that any person of any race, ethnicity, or religion was welcome. I’m not sure that’s the case today. As hate groups appear to be coming out of the woodwork and in so many cases are making their points of view public and in some cases gaining support, anti-racism policies are more a way of saying to hate groups “we do not stand with you.”
    5 points
  6. Unfortunately, racism is still an issue in the drum corps activity. The Bluecoats are willing to address that fact openly and set corps policy to specifically address the issue within their organization. While you may not feel this is necessary, current events have shown otherwise, as well as the experiences of drum corps members. It is those members, past, current, and future, who may appreciate a World Class drum corps working to ensure the activity is welcoming to them, starting with their own organization. Back in June, the Bluecoats Brass Podcast posted an episode entitled “The Black
    5 points
  7. It is not that hard. Drum corps reflect the constituencies from which they recruit. Once upon a time, drum corps recruited locally, and they reflected the composition of their local communities. But not anymore. Not even the pandemic will cause a return to more local membership. Today, DCI drum corps recruit almost entirely from the membership/alumni of highly competitive USA marching bands. That focus only narrows among top corps, who increasingly utilize the subset of such young adults who have further experience with other corps. Since those are the people with the opport
    5 points
  8. This Guardsman has all the right stuff: https://www.today.com/parents/national-guard-member-teaches-kids-while-guarding-capitol-t206013
    5 points
  9. That is a viewpoint that needs to be defeated at many levels of society. Just silencing it, and allowing it to fester in the shadows, is not good enough. Plus, I would rather those creatures be free to speak, and out themselves, so that I know who to keep the children way-the-hell away from.
    4 points
  10. In drum corps? Absolutely not. Can't speak for anyone else though. Every drum corps I marched in has been a relatively great experience. Outside of drum corps though, I can say I have experienced it a few times in my life, although not recently. Great to be back! Took a hiatus because my White House job was killing me. But I left last week and I'm excited to retire from the military very soon!
    4 points
  11. Given that racism seems to be running rampant all over this country, it shouldn't be a surprise that they're fortifying the idea that it's not going to be tolerated.
    4 points
  12. I’m sorry that you don’t understand this goes beyond the Bluecoats and they’re at least making an effort to start to chip away at something so ingrained in our society. I think your comment proves my point.
    4 points
  13. Has nothing to do with their failed attempts to protect their members. Stop reacting so emotionally because something that has been around for so long may have made some bad decisions. And now they have to be accountable to those decisions. Yes I am very aware of who Jim Jones "was". And he would be incredibly disappointed in the leadership of his corps.
    4 points
  14. i don't care what they do, as long as they are safe and fiscally responsible.
    3 points
  15. When a police report is released under an open records request, names of witnesses are generally redacted, omitted or at least abbreviated with initials in the released report. As soon as I saw hearsay statements and recollections of 3rd party "witnesses" in the MAASIN report with no redaction... it raised some concerns. If all of those people were contacted and agreed to have their name published by MAASIN, that's great. Otherwise, actions can have reactions/consequences regardless of how good the intentions are.
    3 points
  16. Don’t even get me started on those. I remember being fitted for it and saying “ok, you’ve had your fun. Where are the real hats?”
    3 points
  17. i portray myself to be me thanks. and i've provided a lot of information thats been very accurate over the years. seems the calls had some great diversity stuff covered today. Lots of people came away very positive about it. you're welcome
    3 points
  18. If you BEAT BD you are champs. You can beat Crown and SCV and Coats but still come behind BD. But they all know it's BD you have to beat and you are champs.
    3 points
  19. This... Really Bluecoats? More SJW pandering to bubble world? So, they are addressing other peoples/organizations/societies racism, but aren't racist but are putting "words" in place for something they are party to or of. I mean, fine I suppose? Here, try this, ACTIONS. After COVID there is so much opportunity to do something. Change the activity and atmosphere you helped create? Start a cadet corp or two? Revive local drum corps? Donate your 1 year used instruments/instruments to those new units? Forgo that extra marimba, semi prop truck to make dues affordable or fund these ne
    3 points
  20. The person who started this so called organization started out with a twitter account known as DCI F*ckery where they would attack everything including unsubstantiated claims. They also went after a former director over unconfirmed allegations and received a cease and desist letter as a result.
    3 points
  21. IDK about the funding of MAASIN, but one way organizations fight these-type allegations is to attack the messenger, not address the message. Consider what happened to the coach at Penn State who reported Sandusky.
    3 points
  22. I thought there was a zero-tolerance policy regarding these behaviors in DCI? This happened in 2017-19. Why did this take 18-42 months (depending on allegation) for this to come out? Apparently it is still not resolved. Wouldn't it have been better if the accusations were made within the last few days, & the Corps were able to post a reply 'Yes, this happened to guard member. Perp was kicked out that day, top leadership reinforced to members that (1) We will not tolerate this, & (2) Support the victim. & similar words, point by point, w/r/t member treatment, sunsc
    3 points
  23. Mod hat here... Please refrain from making personal attacks. State your POV on the topic without resorting to disparaging other DCP members.
    3 points
  24. This is a great question for those who have been on the scene for a while. Unquestionably there have been those who were "great" in terms of advancing their own corps, and some have already been noted here. But a deeper question is suggested: Who was the greatest in advancing the entire activity? It's hard to top Jim Jones for almost single-handedly modeling the notion that there could be drum corps virtually anywhere; or Mickey Petrone and Lefty Mayer for birthing and sustaining DCA; or the Bernerts for advancing the cause of gender equality. Don Pescione was once a corps director,
    3 points
  25. Was your use of the word revenant intentional or an autocorrect of relevant? If intentional, bravo! Revenant - a person who has returned, especially supposedly from the dead.
    2 points
  26. Thank you! A show ahead of it's time.
    2 points
  27. The geese have been sucked down due to math.
    2 points
  28. IMHO the only place for any facial tattoos is called 'life without the possibility of parole'. But that's just me.
    2 points
  29. MAASIN is trying to position itself as the independent investigative watchdog group for all of the marching arts. I've seen several comparisons on social media to them being the "SafeSport" for the marching arts. The challenge is... they really don't have the authority to position themselves in that role. SafeSport was granted their status and authority through federal law/congressional action (Protecting Young Victims from Sexual Abuse and Safe Sport Authorization Act of 2017). MAASIN lacks that same status and authority to take on that role. So while it could be beneficial from an
    2 points
  30. well they'll probably get the same check most wil
    2 points
  31. I agree it needs to be late, but not too late. Do you call off the season after members are already in spring training, dues are paid, & Corps have signed bus & food contracts? Or do you do it early but then regret it because turns out a season (of sorts) could have happened? IMHO DCI needs to have specific, data-driven decision points that all the participating Corps agree to, & then let the numbers drive the decision, no matter what that decision is.
    2 points
  32. Sorry to say but when I see crap like some of the shirts worn during recent protests, I have to agree. 6MWE needs to be silenced now. That is just absolute garbage.
    2 points
  33. I laugh hard at the rich kids characterization. So not the case. I rode on charter buses in Norwood Park and school buses in Guardsmen. In Texas in August.
    2 points
  34. If Jim wasn’t banned on here, he’d back me up on this story. As recently as 2019, we were talking to people at a show and they asked where I marched. I told them and they said “oh Guardsmen had a great guard”. I said yes, we did but I was horn player. I can’t even tell you how many times I’ve heard that. I could throw a mellophone in any direction at a drum corps show and hit a misogynist.
    2 points
  35. You would also think that sexual harassment and verbal abuse would be something not a part of a character-builder youth activity, but you would be 100% wrong there, wouldn’t ya?
    2 points
  36. When I marched in Royal-Airs reunion corps, who were very welcoming to distaff members btw, I heard some great stories. One Cavalier alumnus told me how Mr. Warren went to the juvenile detention center to recruit color guard members. I also heard soooo many stories from original RA alums of how they were street kids and were headed for jail. Sie gave them a job at his flatlots in Chicago, got them in the drum corps, and more than once I was told that he saved their lives. I am a good listener and I loved their stories. I learned a lot.
    2 points
  37. Terri, I'm sorry you experienced that. I know that it's common. I wish it were different. You come across as a person in charge of your destiny. While the world and society are unfair still in so many ways, you know what you want and deserve. This will serve you well. One final note, please do not "throw in the towel" on here. While we see commentary that can challenge and even shock us, we also see change.
    2 points
  38. Examples please! Just because someone said so doesn’t make it so. If I recall correctly drum corps had greater black participation in the 60’s and 70’s. Is racism responsible for all black organizations folding and far less black participation today? Share with us how and when this became an issue, and how this will be addressed to increase participation. If anything DCI has created a socio economic strata that prevents a lot of people from participation. Please no virtue signaling.
    2 points
  39. Thanks for the drive by Terri. Be safe in your hibernation and hopefully we'll "see" you in the Spring.
    2 points
  40. Does anyone know if, back in the day, there were drum corps that made anti-communism statements or adopted anti-communism policies?
    2 points
  41. Good to know the Bluecoats well no longer be racist. 😎
    2 points
  42. Interesting question. In my own reading of the documents, the sexual misconduct allegation is the main issue that would have a potential legal impact. I am not an attorney, so that is just my take. As for the rest...a lot of it reads as griping by members who were disenchanted with their marching experience. That can happen to anybody for many reasons. For the Troopers, it seems like a "Have you stopped beating your wife" kind of thing. How do they answer griping without giving it credence...really, why would they even try. I don't have the negative feeling about their response others se
    2 points
  43. "because people only want jazz in the small little shoe-horned version of it they have in their mind " Cappybara makes a good point. Jazz is a very big tent, with a great variety of styles that can fall within its definition, but many folks define it quite narrowly. My parents dug swing, but be-bop didn't do it for them. If you are a trad-jazz fan, Metheny ain't your man. But all the categories are timeless, and recur in our music landscape in a cyclical way. A new Hollywood movie or Broadway show containing any of these will spawn derivatives on the field and guard floor almost
    2 points
  44. And to cross musical genres further, they do a jazz interpretation of Rite of Spring. One of the most complex shows performed to date and one of my favorite BD shows of all time.
    2 points
  45. Jones set the prototype for the touring corps ... and his leadership spawned the likes of Emmonds, Meehan and Sanford to travel further West to define the future of corps like Santa Clara and the Blue Devil's ... all paying it forward ...
    2 points
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