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  1. As each of you travel back home, I want to express my gratitude for your restraint, and decision not to approve the latest proposal to include marching woodwinds at this time. As I see it, Drum Corps International has seen too many fundamental changes, too fast. Recent changes to amplification, movement, uniforms, set pieces, and judging have placed more than enough on your plate for the time being. Add in concerns over funding, housing, performance rights, broadcast quality and reach, etc. Frankly, each of these items still need work. Particularly the amplification matter ! Bette
    34 points
  2. Let’s take proactive measures to help each other at least in the mental health area. If you’re bouncing off the walls, feeling panic creep in, or just need a sympathetic ear, post it here and let’s work to encourage each other. We WILL get through this but it will take time. If you want to start the blame posts go somewhere else. Love you all!
    22 points
  3. This would be an incredibly fast way to kill drum corps.
    18 points
  4. I usually don’t post on forums but I would like to counter some of the negativity being posted here about the Cadets. I am a retired music educator and a member of the Santa Clara Vanguard Admin staff. I have also been assisting the Cadets administratively in the office and at their winter camps since I reside in Pennsylvania and have worked in the past with Denise Bonfiglio, Cadets corps director and Michele Teevan, Cadets Operations Manager while they were with SCV. Here are my observations: The corps took possession of a brand new set of Yamaha brass at their December camp in
    18 points
  5. Hey guys. I usually stay clear of this stuff and I appreciate those of you that understand my position. I'm basically going to tell you what has already been said on here. There are some smart people here with good sources. The Cadets are working on a number of things right now. All for the good. DCI is aware and being extremely helpful. The corps will be on the field this summer and will be highly competitive. The staff is being given the tools they need within the budget. The budgeting for the corps is realistic with expenses high and income low, it has an extremely generous line
    17 points
  6. I have a high school senior who auditioned for the corps. He got a callback (woo!) but did not get a spot... too young and inexperienced, but they liked him and said they'd give his name to some other corps. I'm really proud of him! His feedback from the camp concerning the Cadets was extremely encouraging. He loved the staff, the culture, the work ethic... apparently it was everything that he'd hoped for in a Cadet experience. He said the show was very "Cadets." (I love that he knows what that means!) He wants to try again next year. If there are any admin/staff reading this,
    17 points
  7. Had a great day with the Cadets yesterday. There is huge difference between the perception created by DCP and what is actually happening with the Cadets.
    16 points
  8. I have a different name for “female drum major”. It’s “drum major”.
    16 points
  9. And this is why Dan Acheson is DCI Executive Dir and not you or me, and corps representatives voting membership makes the decisions about the season, and not you or me. They've been doing this for decades. Their primary focus is on the marching members and their participant's safety. They'll make the right decision at the right time. That time is not now.
    15 points
  10. The biggest overreaction? I wish the country where I'm living had've "overreacted". If they did, then the world wouldn't be going through what it currently is. Instead, things were covered up in an attempt to calm the public. Now we have a global pandemic. Let me give you a tale of two cities where I live - China. Wuhan has a population of 11 million people, with 68,000 cases and 3,000 deaths1 (per the entire province of Hubei). Though, I do highly suspect the deaths and cases are both far greater than what has been reported... as Italy is now approaching 1,000 deaths itself.
    15 points
  11. So much pontificating on here. Everyone going off their own opinions and their own rumors based on people they CLAIM to know who have inside information, but no one knows for sure WHAT is happening. I would LOVE to know what music Cadets are playing this year.
    15 points
  12. Back in 2002, I kept a decent journal of my experience marching with Crossmen for myself and as a gift for each person who helped contribute to me being able to afford to march. I came across it today and the first entry was January 18, 2002 so I thought I'd post along for the full season this year.... --- (Note: I auditioned for Santa Clara Vanguard back in November.) January 18, 2002 Newark, DE I did attend the December audition camp for the Crossmen. Things were much different there than with SCV. We focused much more on music and m
    14 points
  13. I'm challenging every DCP member to post your support here. My pledge: I will give every dollar of my refunded Friends membership, plus my refunded finals week ticket costs, directly back to the corps. Approximately $4,400. Further, I will pledge immediately up to $2,600 additional contributions to individual corps. Total $7,000 because I LOVE this activity and what it does for young musicians. I'm also thankful to John Donovan and all the mods for giving us this sandbox in which we can stay connected to it.
    14 points
  14. Contracted for my third season of World Class, pretty much everyone I have talked to wishes for the cancellation of the season. I am fine with reevaluating another week or so, but they need to act. Everyone understands the situation, that the season cannot go on under these circumstances. It just is what it is. The Olympics, NBA, MLB, NHL, MLS- all have changed their schedules. Any sort of a move to shorten tour will only provide worse show quality, and more importantly, a worse member experience. Build contingency plans for corps' survival, get a refund out to everyone, and extend e
    14 points
  15. I figure you guys are probably aware, but just in case. The Madison Scouts has decided to pursue classes with staff and current members throughout the summer. They are also hoping for a week or two in late July or August to bring the corps together to get somewhat of a summer experience. I thought the email and video were excellent. My kid will be participating and in return, contracts will be extended to 2021. Still a Madison Scout family socially distant! 💚⚜️🤍
    13 points
  16. The Cadets will be fine for 2020. There will be a big announcement in the near future outlining the plan for the Cadets moving forward and a lot of the people spewing doom and gloom will be eating a lot of crow. This I can tell you and it is first hand knowledge: The Cadets have taken delivery of a BRAND NEW set of Yamaha Brass The Cadets have taken delivery of ALL BRAND NEW front ensemble instruments The Cadets Will be taking delivery of a BRAND NEW set of battery percussion The Cadets WILL NOT be competing in Open Class. They will be touring this summer as a World
    13 points
  17. Because BD is drama-free. They go about their business of producing a great drum corps.
    13 points
  18. I got to go to their January camp show and tell this morning, some very interesting and exciting stuff. They seem to be going after a mix of very recognizable music as well as more obscure stuff. Also some very interesting plans for at least one part of their show, something I'm not sure has really been done to the extent they are attempting. They also sound great. Should be a very exciting season!
    13 points
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  20. BD's worst meal in 84 was beef stroganoff. Not many of us ate it...so after the Pt. Huron rainout show, when we were stuck at the Canadian border with Garfield, Freelancers, and 27th, we gave it to Garfield....and we sat on our busses in slack-jawed amazement watching them pound it down like there was no tomorrow. Even today, alums of 84 Cadets tell me that was their BEST meal all year!
    12 points
  21. doesn't excuse the rest
    12 points
  22. Just to clarify...The Cadets at present still operate under the YEA! umbrella. We will be an independent non profit organization beginning on March 31, with a full board of directors as required by the government. Please please rest assured that we know what we are doing. If you have serious questions or concerns about this then please email me at bmartin@cadets.org. As the Development Director i can assure you that you can make a donation to The Cadets today or after March 31 and everything will be fine. Brad Martin Development and Marketing Manager The Cadets
    12 points
  23. Not concerned about the public reaction? They assigned the proposal to an unaffiliated BoD person. They submitted it, in defiance of DCI rules, without a sponsoring signature. They delayed public release of the rule change proposals until the last minute. They withheld the vote tally, only for that one proposal, in an unprecedented act of secrecy. DCI has done everything it could to conceal the identities of corps directors who are proponents. Obviously, that was done because they were concerned about public reaction. No one wants to be the one who loses donors to other corps o
    12 points
  24. Any Instrument Policy has failed!
    12 points
  25. I’m a nobody around here, but I’ve only been a DCI observer since I saw the 1989 DCI finals on PBS when I was a freshman in high school. I never had the opportunity to march for anyone, but I married a 90s DCI alum so we’re as a family in love with the activity! I’ve also stalked these forums for years, but I’m not much of a commenter as I had personally no official ties to the activity. Until recently! Anyway, my son is a Madison Scout this year for his very first drum corps performing experience. 💚🤍⚜️ We as a family are so excited by the energy this program has surrounding it this yea
    12 points
  26. Yes, it is truly amazing that after 30 years of mismanagement by a dictator things haven't become perfect over night.
    12 points
  27. I get the aspiration to make the benefits available to as many young people as possible. I don't doubt the sincerity of the aim. But way to maximize the benefits isn't to eliminate the characteristics that distinguish the one thing from all other things. It's to make many different things. Summer string camps. Chamber orchestras. Youth symphonies. Jazz combos. Chorale. Fiddlin' competitions. Bluegrass camps. Piano competitions. Drum and bugle corps. I've said it before: When you put all the ingredients in the kitchen into a single pot, every item on the menu tastes the same. The
    12 points
  28. Much like the Madison scouts with CK, DCI should have canned DA many years ago. There is way too much bando influence in drum corps these days and what used to be a clear distinction between drum corps and band will be completely gone. Who the heck wants to hear flutes and clarinets in a drum corps show? No thanks.
    12 points
  29. It's great that you use paragraphs, but I'm not sure you understand how they work.
    12 points
  30. Look gang, this is all great news. And I want drum corps back as much as the next person. But the real world doesn't work like that. Even if they can get the vaccine's out in Q2 2021, there will be administrative and logistical hurdles that will be nearly impossible to overcome in time to put together a meaningful season. Add to that the fact that DCI is probably running on fumes right now with limited staff, I would feel much more comfortable about us jumping back in in 2022 after having the chance to plan while allowing the logistics of the vaccine distribution to work themselves out. I know
    11 points
  31. When Ike Jackson himself is captured on a video making wildly inappropriate comments to HS students, then IMO the jury is not still out. The one video alone should have resulted in him being released from Ayala at least. As for the Mandarins, if their admin sees that video, plus the weight of the other reported commentary, then hopefully they do the right thing.
    11 points
  32. What a great post! Thanks for putting it together. I've been following posts on DCP for years but until now haven't posted. In 1987 I was on the visual, and color guard staff for the Velvet Knights. I worked closely with Bobby Hoffman on the visual staff and Roxanne Narachi on the color guard staff. I designed and constructed all the silks, designed/built all the props (the California license plate at the end of the show was a major undertaking!) and made most of the costumes that were used throughout the show. (Interesting coincidence - the two corps that tied, VK and Star, probably had
    11 points
  33. My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant, that when I pee, it cleans the toilet.
    11 points
  34. Six years for me. I still flip the bird to my employer every time I drive by.
    11 points
  35. And I’m hoping you do the same in 2022
    11 points
  36. My final plea to DCI voting members . . . . Continue to allow any instruments to participate. But, ONLY AS PIT enhancements. Instrumentalists using devices not considered Brass or Percussion shall remain stationary and restricted to positions outside the sidelines. Continue your efforts to make DCI more affordable as the means to achieve greater ‘inclusion.’ Cut present expenses to create more revenue. Thank you.
    11 points
  37. The “inclusion” rap is laughable. The sheer cost makes the experience unreachable for way too many. Inclusion? Look for ways to reach more kids who can’t afford $5,000 for a summer. Just the economics of it makes Drum Corps exclusionary by class.
    11 points
  38. Woodwind player (clarinet and sax) here — completely agree. I don't feel like I'm lacking in "life-enriching" musical summer opportunities because DCI is made up of drum corps instead of marching bands, even though I'd be eligible to march for a year if the proposal passed. I wouldn't want a snare drummer to join my woodwind quintet; there's no reason I should be playing a woodwind instrument in a brass and percussion ensemble. There is a huge range of timbral possibilities available to DCI arrangers right now with the brass, percussion, and electronics that are already allowed, and I don't se
    11 points
  39. The financial aspects of the concept haven't been explored in any meaningful way to address the central issue of sustainability. Bands with 200-250 performers have most of the infrastructural expenses of operations covered by their school districts. The band directors are paid for through tax dollars, their rehearsal facilities, etc, etc, are also covered by their school districts. If the average BOA program had to be self-sustaining, they'd never hit the field. Drum corps have to eat all of the expense of putting the product out there, and adding more members actually makes it more expe
    11 points
  40. The Joint: Nightmares in Four Walls without a Door
    10 points
  41. This question has been answered numerous times and can simply be found by googling. You're still going to get the same answers.
    10 points
  42. Was going to finally get out on my own when I got back from doing admin stuff again. Will probably do that sooner. Get my first place. Have been working to and have lost weight the last year and a few months, will get to keep doing that. And focus on some clients I have during the fall for marching band. Play video games. Read some books. Be big sad.
    10 points
  43. Lots of hard decisions to come I am sure. In the end what needs to be done is keep everyone safe. WGI didn’t just cancel because they’re scared, Ohio/UD were probably going to make restrictions on events with higher attendance events and the like. I suspect if DCI would do the same it would be for similar reasons. There’s housing for all parts of the tour, performance venues, the environment that corps operate in, different states restrictions on events should this continue to escalate, etc. I and I’m sure many more will be heartbroken should something happened his summer, bu
    10 points
  44. I thought they were fantastic and so much fun. Best use of a prop ever. Get to a show, @Skeletor '96. These videos just don’t translate as well as being there. I watch on flomarching and it’s nowhere near the same as being at the show.
    10 points
  45. LMFAO @ "I like the electric light bulb; the fact that I don’t know what it means doesn’t matter." So sad that the design team completely "wastes" the greatest collection of talent every year. Leave the DCI discussions for the grown ups please. EPIC FAIL.
    10 points
  46. I don't care either way & I'm not a mod. There was just a ton of conversation already in this thread about the YEA! changes PRIOR to the "other thread" so it seemed a bit misguided Additionally I would like to make another point: I certainly hope (and assume) that 95% or greater of the folks posting in EITHER thread want nothing but the best for the Cadets. However, it's a bit important to be realistic - there are a small number of folks posting either aligned with GH or the folks that led the corps in 2018 & 2019. All are entitled to their perspective - however it would be G
    10 points
  47. Your agenda is crystal clear if necessary all us donors and alumni will step up and support the Cadets fully on their 2020 world class tour
    10 points
  48. I’ve heard some things. In my eyes, the most important thing is the survival of The Cadets.
    10 points
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