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  1. It's really short. I'm glad there's going to be one. I have a kid that saw his first DCI show when he was 9 years old. He was hooked. And after 7 years of competitive Corps, he will be on the podium to salute the Cavaliers onto the field 28 days from now. Had there been no season this year, he would have had to age out and move on. I realize my perspective is biased. I don't care. I can't wait to see the 10 shows they will have, either live or on FloMarching. And I can't help but think that having these shows as unjudged exhibitions might produce an even more entertaining result. Go get 'em kid.
    25 points
  2. I completely disagree with you. The trend of costumes portraying a theme and/or story is IMO a colossal failure and completely unnecessary. Musical arrangements, visual drill design, and auxiliary will suffice. Props are not going to prop up a poorly designed program, no more than silly mice costumes. Designers need to consider the venue. Smaller venues like a gymnasium work better for costuming - WGI. What we learned this season is that larger venues require more uniformity for greater visual impact. Madison, Phantom, Cavaliers, Cadets and even Bluecoats uniform styles/colors created both simplicity and clarity with respect to marching design and overall visual effect. IMO less clutter more uniformity!
    21 points
  3. Friends, Most corps directors, leaders, and staff visit DCP forums. You might not be commenting, but we know you are listening. So I have a question for each of you... What in the actual **** are you allowing to happen to our activity? As a parent and a former marching member, I am disgusted by what I see regarding our kids' safety and well-being. Sexual assault, hazing, verbal assault, allowing underage kids to be abused by older students? Have we not learned anything from the stories from the NCAA, Michigan State, and Ohio State athletics? Did we not have this hit home with the investigation and prosecution of George Hopkins? There are far too many of these instances happening inside and outside the activity, and your response as individual organizations has been reactionary and below subpar. Press releases and statements on websites were no longer be enough. Hyperbole is no longer enough. What worked in 2017 is far below the minimum requirements of what should be done. There needs to be a radical change. RADICAL! Please don't settle on the bare minimum; you should be looking to lead (hint, this is the moment where you want to go above and beyond). If you'll allow me, I have a few suggestions to get the ball rolling: It's time to separate the kids (high school age kids 14-17) from the adults (18-21). Create different divisions for those 18 and over. Protect and secure the well-being of high school-aged kids. Staff should have regular training and be required to be certified with background checks by security experts. It doesn't matter what the cost is, just do it. Zero tolerance policies need to be enforced without hesitation. Every single report of harassment and abuse needs to be handled by an independent operating body that will investigate and is empowered to make determinations. No more meaningless probation periods - those have done nothing to deter the problem. Complete suspension for those that have been found to be in violation of the DCI ethics policy. Finally, the DCI board needs to be replaced with professionals from outside the organization and comprised of business leaders, educators, and people with no bias or connection to individual corps. The activity we've all grown to know, and love is dying right in front of our eyes. What happened in the first 50 years will no longer be tolerated moving forward. We live in a different era, a different time, that should focus and stress our kids' absolute safety and well-being. If you're spending more money on show development than you are on safety, diversity, inclusion, and wellness programs, you're doing it wrong. There are no more mulligans. The drum corps community is done with business as usual. You are all on the clock, and inaction will no longer tolerate this. Make the tough decisions - either continue doing things the way you have and kill the activity or make some drastic changes and do it now. And don't feed us BS that you've been working to make a change... you haven't gone anywhere near close enough. Until you make that change, you're not getting anywhere close to my kids. I know a good majority of you are good, honest people that care about your students, organizations, and the activity. But we're not seeing it. Actions speak louder than words. Show us by making the changes that need to be made. Dare to dream. And create an activity that is poised to grow and protect our young people. Signed, A concerned and disgusted FMM and Parent.
    18 points
  4. We were having this very discussion last night. It’s obvious that the criteria for what constitutes performance is miles apart between the eyes and ears of adjudicators and fans. Look at the responses to those who performed before and after those who received multiple standing ovations is a clear indication if there ever was. We noticed there’s no replacement for wonderful musical phrases, powerful brass and percussion and actual marching design with great guard staging. Props and/or lighting is not a replacement for either. We also noticed that amplification and electronics is not a substitute for complete musical phrases either and is better when used in support of the musical repertoire instead of being the musical repertoire. It was nice to see individual corps identity resurgence with the hope that it remains. Costumes are not required to tell a story or emitting themed translations to receive audience approval. Seems like great drill design is still the staple for fan visual appreciation vs fluttering around from one set to another then striking a silly pose. Finally guard unison work with choreographed body movements along with the use of flag colors are both more beautiful and impressive in comparison to individual improvised movements or theme based equipment use. Anyway you cut it scores will determine a winner. The big question is what will determine the scores in the future?
    18 points
  5. I guess I am just surprised that anyone is going to criticize any show this season. I have to admit that during the darkest days of the pandemic, I found myself at times wondering if I would ever see live drum corps ever again. Each corps has had to engage is some serious soul searching in the past 18 months to contemplate the way forward for their organizations. The fact that this corps is out there with what looks like a full corps to me and is performing an enjoyable show is commendable. Keep it up guys, and to heck with the keyboard commandos on dcp.
    16 points
  6. It’s probably the best idea to teach without getting personal with anyone. Be a professional. Address people by their name when teaching in a respectful manner. Everyone. Is this that difficult? No wonder drum corps is rife with issues. They can’t get the easy stuff right.
    15 points
  7. Hey everyone! I just wanted to introduce myself. My names McKenzee, I'm the 2021 SOA member who came forward the other day regarding all of this. I wanted to thank those of you that have supported me and spread the word. If you have any questions pertaining to what happened, I'd be glad to answer them. I cannot name names, but beyond that I'm open to talking about my experience. Thank you. Do Better SOA https://t.co/JovLdmjGBM https://m.facebook.com/100001523737826/posts/4838454732881937/?d=n https://chng.it/hDfGzdRG
    14 points
  8. "Cancel culture" is a term adopted by people who refuse to hold those accountable who have done things wrong in the past and continue to do things wrong. We're not perfect at all, but people SHOULD be held accountable for their actions. In terms of Crossmen changing their logo, who cares? It's their prerogative and I'm not bothered by it at all. Cadets have changed their logo many times and while there were people who went nuts about it, we moved on.
    14 points
  9. 14 points
  10. Every corps has those "fanboys/girls". Yes some worse than others. I have also witnessed some isolated events by members of a particular corps in a parking lot when i attended a show in SoCal back in 2007. But i don't/didn't hold the entire organization accountable for all of eternity (not accusing you of that). To this day when that corps takes the field, i cheer just as loud for them as i do any other corps performing that night. Every corps, sports team, fanbase etc, has jerks. It just seems like when one is successful and has found a winning formula to win consistently, and we can't find any dirt or skeletons in the closet, we start latching on to any little thing to bring them down and minimize their success (speaking in general, not directly at you). That's why as a BD fan, I try my best to always be respectful, friendly, and polite, ESPECIALLY on this forum. Us BD fans have to hold ourselves and each other to high standard, cause I know there are some posters (NOT ALL) wanting and waiting to pounce on anything negative about BD. And if they can't or don't have the guts to attack the corps directly, they will come after the fanbase and latch on to any little thing we say.
    13 points
  11. To anyone involved with the 2021 season. Congrats. Staff. Member. Volunteer. Whatever. We did it. Drum corps made it back. Was full of fear a year ago. Full of happiness and hope now.
    13 points
  12. The list of shady characters involved in this activity dates back 50 years. The list of names would not be surprising to some and would be shocking to others. The level of arrogance increases with every new pageantry leach carving out a livelihood. The number of sexual predators in and around the activity is nothing more than a microcosm of our society that entered into the activity, and is increasing with each season. Many risk factors are apparent - member isolation, relationships with other members, adult staff, and volunteers, all interacting making it possible to target higher-risk groups like the drum corps touring model. The greater the number of sexual assault risk factors, the greater is the likelihood that a person will be a perpetrator or a victim. IMO the organizations need to be held accountable for the actions of those affiliated in either a dependent or subordinate position. DCI is too incompetent to thoroughly address predator-prey interactions. (911) is your friend. A specially trained police officer is better equipped and prepared to handle the particular situation to document and/or make an arrest. Don't expect any organization to have your best interest in mind, they're protecting their livelihoods that you are funding.
    12 points
  13. Sorry I’m so late to the conversation. I started to read this thread Monday evening, but had to stop after a few pages from sheer disgust. I read a few more pages yesterday, and again just had to stop. I’ve finally caught up, and now I have to take a shower to get the stink off me. Or maybe throw-up. Maybe throw-up and then take a shower. There are no words I can use to express the disgust I have for the incidents, the lack of response from the supposed adults of SoA and DCI’s inaction. Probation? Is that some sort of sick joke? I’m so sorry @anomaly . What you experienced was horrific. Brava to you for your courage.
    12 points
  14. The other thing about Tim: he has an easy going, gentle demeanor and he is invariably positive about the activity. There are worse ways to be.
    12 points
  15. This was fun, the entire 3+ weeks have been fun and refreshing and a great distraction from everyday life. But most importantly, it's reaffirmed my love for this activity. I can't wait to introduce this activity to my young child, after they (only one child that we are aware of) are born in 2022. I hope the child will love drum corps as much as I do.
    12 points
  16. If that guard isn't standing out to you, I don't know what to say
    12 points
  17. Seeing Spirit of Atlanta live was also such a thrill. Man can they perform. They let you know they are there and you can feel the pride and joy they have in performing. This show is shaping up to be one of my favorites of the summer. The ballad was so good and incredibly powerful. They cover a lot of field and LIVE those bottle trees are so neat and effective. Great music, great performers, and a fantastic show! As the Cadets came on the field you could hear the crowd enjoying the look of those beautiful and iconic uniforms. What struck me was how warm and controlled their brass line was. The Cadets guard had a rough run for sure, but I think the brass was very good tonight. For the guard I do feel the rain before the show did not help, but I am sure these performers are tired from being out East. When you see the brass and percussion LIVE you get a better feel for where they are. Their brass line has a warmer sound than the others, although not as polished as Boston or Bluecoats. They utilized a lot of dynamic range and did a nice job to pull the pit back when they needed to. Mallet playing was great. The percussion section may be the best on the field this summer. Hard to say but they were staged perfectly and the writing is so musical. The ballad gave me goosebumps. Moondance had the crowd rocking, and Far and Away blew the place down. Crowd was on their feet as soon as the company front began to push. Boston may have had their finest performance yet. I'd say they had the best brass tonight. Bluecoats are amazing, but Boston is a few tenths better. That line is easily the best Boston brass I have ever heard. What a musical book as well. Oh, by the way their percussion section through down as well and do not take a back seat to that brass. We all know their guard is one of the activities premiere units. They were stunning. I think the thing I took away most from their show tonight is how well this show works when you see them LIVE. I had no problem with the electronic panels. My girlfriend loved them. It seemed most of the crowd was very engaged and thrilled by their use and I don't feel I missed or was distracted from other parts of the show. Oh, and the rifles and tosses toward the end of the show will draw you in and make your jaw drop. The music is another thing that just hits you. On Flo I can tell I like the music, but LIVE it all felt larger than life. Their ballad may be the best on the field this year. It's hypothetical and tough to compare shows this year, but I'd say Boston had a slightly stronger run than Bloo. But speaking of the hometown corps, the Bluecoats definitely have a full package. I don't think they were as tight and polished as what I saw at Allentown, even if my vantage point was Flo. A few brass issues with timing and phasing hit them early in the show. Having said that they make up for it later on and close the show with a huge JAM FEST! The 1st 3rd of the show is more cerebral. Lots of dance, body movement, and a lot of effects in the pit. But as the show picks up steam the percussion begins to flex their muscles with so many intricate grooves and some amazing effects that you are simply wowed by the timing and complexity of layering. The guard is absolutely phenomenal. The use of flags was my favorite of the night, with Spirit of Atlanta actually being my 2nd favorite use of flags tonight. As the solos begin to add more to the show (and the soloists are excellent) the stage is set for the all-out jam fest that tears the house down. Then they pause for a few seconds, build it back up, begin singing, and then crush you one more time. In terms of total show design there is nothing like this package on the field this summer. It's very good visually, and it's absolutely stunning from a GE perspective. Seeing this show LIVE makes all the difference. If this corps is young, or at least younger than say 2019, then look out for 2022. The talent is so amazing top to bottom. Simply no weaknesses, even if the brass was a little off in a few small areas. Fantastic show! Bravo to all the corps tonight. So glad I got to see live corps this summer.
    12 points
  18. My son had the highest honor of conducting the corps playing “Rainbow” on Saturday in honor of a terminally ill Cavalier Alum who was right below the podium soaking it in via his wheelchair. I can guarantee that THESE moments and memories will live with him forever, and scores and contests simply won’t.
    12 points
  19. In 28 of DCI's 48 years, the championship has been won by one of two corps from California. In 1 of DCI's 48 years, the championship has been hosted in the same state as one of the two corps referenced above. They have already invested more of their fair share of financial and logistical resources to the activity.
    12 points
  20. I heard somewhere that an instructor (can't remember whom) will leave one Corps & teach at a different Corps. Can't recall which Corps. 😎
    11 points
  21. FloMarching? Narration? A corps director pacing the front sidelines? This is DCP, complaining is an artform!
    11 points
  22. Hidden beneath all of our complaining about props and flo and misc stuff…these marchers and staff and volunteers have crushed it for the last month!! So thankful DCI is back this summer!!! Can’t wait for 2022
    11 points
  23. My thoughts from this years shows so far: Biggest Surprises: 1) BlueStars- really put out a full package product that is just wonderful. I feel like this show would have been very competitive. 2) Phantom- really improved the most of any corps to me and is on the right path to break into top 5 again. As much as I like the remix its just not as good as the original to me. Its still fantastic. 3) Cavies- have the easiest music book of the 2019 top 6 corps that I heard so far. I was expecting a lot more, but I realize this year is unique. Show is fun but not up to what I usually expect from them. 4) Boston - from their concert in the park it sounds like a more technical music book which positions them well for the future. Waiting to see the visual. Biggest Delights: 1) Crown - crushed it and fixed their weak spots, thus setting the ground work for 2022. Guard is most improved and more like old 2015 and prior guards. Precussion is stepped up also. 2) Madison Scouts - improved a lot and are on the right path to being top 12 again 3) Cadets- made me fall in love with them again. The show is wonderful and so cadets. 4) Blue Knights- show is amazing and reminds me of why I love their unique identity and style. Really good drum corps show with just music and drill the way I like it. That's all for now.
    11 points
  24. I’m vaccinated and I’m uncomfortable with this kind of segregation. I’m not afraid to sit by an unvaccinated person. I’m vaccinated.
    11 points
  25. a Spirit percussion staff member resigned tonight saying he could not support the organization. good for you Tony Teleky!
    10 points
  26. This may be a minority opinion here on DCP, but I strenuously disagree with the premise of the OP. To be clear, I am 61 and have spent 41 of those years in and around the Boston Crusaders. I LOVED Cadets 2021! I loved Rocky Point, Land Race from Far and Away, and pretty much everything else from their show. The classic uniforms were authentic Cadets and just as importantly, worn by those kids with authenticity. As a drill guy, I LOVED the Z pull, and while I didn't see Phantom in person, the video I saw of them with the kick out at the end of their show literally gave me goose bumps. But, the problem is...I am 61. How many years left do I have as a fan buying tickets and travelling to shows.....5? 10? More I hope? Someone connected with Boston for whom I have the utmost respect and who is only 10 years younger than me said the following to me this summer, "Craig, we have to connect with and appeal to 20 year old college kids instead of 70 year old men if we are to last another 80 years." It pains me to admit it, but he was right. In the case of BAC, I think they have been quite adept at threading that needle for the last several years, but it is clearly a balancing act, for all corps, not just Boston. Corps that cannot adapt and move ahead to appeal to the continually changing fans risk ending up on the dead corps list, which grows every year. As a "Legacy Fan", I would have loved to see Boston perform "California Dreamin,", "Hava Nagilia", and full out "Conquest" this summer (which was technically their 80th anniversary season btw). I am so glad they didn't.
    10 points
  27. right. you only deal with it when you want to dish it. it's been that way for years, so own it like I do being an ########. there's no shame in it. that said sorry to hear about the cancer diagnosis. i am dealing with it in my family, i wouldn't wish that on anyone. Fight on, if anyone is obstinate enough to beat it, it's you
    10 points
  28. um - yes? Their show is literally designed as an open love letter to fans and alumni. Many had become disillusioned with the organization - and it goes way back before 2018. It all started with an egomaniac as a director who treated everyone else as unimportant underling. HE extended that courtesy to all: caption head, a pretty young assistant or dedicated volunteer. HE is gone. Next summer, I just want the members to have a terrific product they are proud of, and can be successful with. I certainly do not need another "throw-back" show... I don't know of anyone who wants or expects that. I just want to see quality marching and playing and spinning... But even more important: I want to see people treated with respect. WE are excited about the 2021 Cadets because they are a #### good drum corps, and yes, the show is a wonderful reminder of why we all fell in love with them in the first place!
    10 points
  29. Sign me up to "I hate the video screens" crowd - and I'm using the word HATE here. Very distracting, enormously prone to error, and high cost of ownership. Nothing but a design crutch IMO - I'd rather them save the $$ and reduce member fees - we already have way too many screens in our lives
    10 points
  30. My list! 1. Actually marching design forms vs fluttering from one set to another, ring around the Rosie around poorly made props, striking poses, and then pushing props around the field. 2. Playing music that is recognizable and toe tapping entertaining vs brass acrobatics or obscure and boring. 3. More tailor looking costumes vs annoying silly ill fitting theme costumes. 4. More unison guard equipment work vs staged individual tosses, dancing and acrobatics.
    10 points
  31. Boston is just loaded with talent, particularly guard
    10 points
  32. Bluecoats are another WOW! That's probably the strongest overall show and performance I've seen from anyone this summer. Even over Crown in my opinion. The level of playing, marching, the guard work, the effective prop use, the color, and the way they tied this all together is fantastic. I was not sure what to think of Lucy after the great 2019 show, but they have definitely constructed a show that feels new, fresh, and modern. The show feels mostly cerebral and elegant with some fantastic minimalistic writing in the brass and percussion book. But the ending is super fun and definitely pulls the crowd out of their seats. Those Bluecoats soloists were on point and well played once again...just as you would expect if you've seen them over the last decade. Interestingly, most of the corps this summer are doing throwback kinds of shows (which I am loving), but Bluecoats, Boston, and Spirit of Atlanta definitely have a more modern vibe to them.
    10 points
  33. these corps are all crazy good wasn't expecting this in 2021
    10 points
  34. Hood gosh. The masking rules are coming back because of continued disbelief COVID is real or disbelief vaccines work or disbelief there isn’t a microchip being inserted of disbelief someone isn’t taking freedom away. How about the possibility that you may be wrong, COVID is real and to FINALLY have drum corps we have some really simple simple rules to follow? We used to follow rules when we marched, it’s not to hard to do so now. You cannot get closer to corps than they will allow you to be. Just go with it for 2 weeks so nothing is jeopardized. It’s not much to ask. Please stop being so adversarial and just go along with it.
    10 points
  35. yes, lots ARE CLOSED these corps are literally in a 250-person bubble - they cannot rely on the "honor system" of "I'm vaccinated and symptom free"
    10 points
  36. I respectfully disagree with this. In the case of the Blue Devils I think people forget (or maybe do not know) that they run a very large organization. It's not just the A corps. If you take the A corps out of it (where many of the members come from all over) what you have is a mostly local/regional organization that services a lot of kids. They have the B and C corps, Diabalo Wind Symphony, Yamaha School of Music, winter drum lines and guard, a special needs guard, and they run a lot of educational programs and clinics. I bet they have 350+ kids in the region who partake in various services offered, and that's NOT counting the A corps. By staying local and not taking part in this DCI exhibition tour the Blue Devils are re-building their local organization and tending to the local and regional youth they offer services to. They are not abandoning anyone. The members that marched the A corps who may have had a year or two left to march are certainly talented enough to do so. There was plenty of opportunity.
    10 points
  37. Bluecoats 2021 isn't a "new take" on a previous show (2019). It is a NEW show that just happens to be by the composers they used in 2019. Lennon, McCartney, Harrison wrote enough great music that several corps could do shows based on their library...without a need to repeat anything.
    10 points
  38. Hi, I was in the Suncoast '88 color guard, and I literally was the "contemporary child," soloist dancer (you know, the "little girl" in a sailor suit dress and hat?). I don't know if anyone will see this so many years after this thread was posted, but yes, it was Karl Lowe, along with George Sellers (as well as I think on that staff Kevin and Deena and sorry I don't remember their last names!), who was the designer and choreographer of the guard for Symphonic Dances for the Contemporary Child. Karl was a genius. It was so extraordinary for me that I was asked to do the part even though I never threw a rifle or flag (and notice if you see a video, I don't). It was something magical touring that summer and to open and close the show alone on a football field--nothing I'd ever experienced before or after. More so, I so admired the rest of the guard who did some really intense guard work (that last long rifle toss/catch during Kansas City finals was a OMG moment!). Finally, everyone in Suncoast, guard and muscians, was so dedicated to the original music by Robert Smith and original concept dreamt by him, Karl and others on staff. So, you can imagine how very emotional it was to do this show. A show that in a mere 12 minutes tried to not only be completely original in composition but also make a message about children and how the seeds of hatred implanted start wars. On a lighter note, during finals, as I recall, at the end when I was dancing again with the "globe of earth" ball alone on the football field (with the corps on the sides), a gust of wind blew the ball and I improvised my reaction to it! For DCI folks interested, I was also the dance soloist for 1990's Magic (Suncoast staff back again), Fantasia. In the end, I only wish is that I danced better because everyone was so nice and very artistic in Suncoast/Magic and it was such a privilege for me to have experienced DCI.
    10 points
  39. Does it really make a difference in the middle of a pandemic? We should be grateful that we have SOME semblance of a season.
    10 points
  40. Not to mention the influence of design and trends. I find it appalling that anyone would think that either organization owes anything to DCI to participate in the dog and pony show just to prop up DCI. In fact it’s the other way around.
    10 points
  41. Everyone deserves to be treated with dignity, humanity, and respect.
    9 points
  42. "Special finale" SURPRISE WE HAD JUDGES TONIGHT! lol no
    9 points
  43. If I'm in the minority on this observation I'll be okay: The screens during BAC's performance were cute but I found my visual loyalties diverted too often while BAC was playing their ##### off...maybe too much of a good thing?..just a thought..peace
    9 points
  44. Wow, Wow, and Wow! The Cadets are just outstanding! Seeing that uniform again, the Cadets style, the drill, and that music was so heartwarming. I was tearing up during the closer! It's not perfect and there are things I'd like to see changed with the drill in a few minor areas, but seriously that show is goosebumps! What a nice selection of tunes. Appalachian Spring, Rocky Point, Dancer In The Dark, Moondance, and Far and Away. I really hope they can build on this because that's the Cadets that many of us have been missing! Amazing! Bravo, Cadets!!!
    9 points
  45. No critiques from me this year. Everyone gets a score of 100 just for getting back out "on the field". Thank you for helping us get back to normal kids!
    9 points
  46. I don’t believe it’s a good economic situation for any corps to participate in this Indy dog and pony show. Stay home and plan for 2022, because corps will need a lot more money then ever before to tour.
    9 points
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