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I have read several times the Cadets have sold their equipment. I would think if this has actually happened in our small world of drum corps and band we would have heard who it was sold to. So who was this equipment sold to?

I was in the Cavaliers Anniversary Corps that year. I’m not sure LOS was ever talked about as being a real option. I only remember Bloomington as being the performance site.

I remember using a Kevlar head by Duraline in 1981 with my marching band. I didn't have a Mylar layer and ripped when water hit it.

I think They stopped their bingo at the end of last year.

Not that I know of.

Their generator went out, so no electronics.

What? We lost Hook'emCavies?

I remember 79. The school we stayed at was disgusting. Easily the worst school during the entire summer. And that is saying something since they found a dead body outside of the school we stayed at in Boston.

I get that, but it is just stupid. Do you know of any other activity with subjective scores that hides the criteria for said subjective scores? I mean, WGI has their sheets posted on their website.

That was the most recent I found also. Kind of makes you wonder why the sheets are not made public. Why would DCI not have those on their website?

I agree, but where should this show up on the sheets?

This is why I am trying to find the sheets. Where would demand be measured in the score?

But did they perform at the same level?

But don't they have a sub-caption for achievement? It would seem to me that 24 trumpets playing a lick would have a higher achievement score than 24 trumpets with 4 mic-ed playing the same lick. Which scenario would have higher achievement? Achievement should reward the players. I mean in the drum world if a snare line of 2 and a snare line of 9 play at the same level, I would expect the larger snare line to have a higher achievement score.

Ha, thanks!

Really? I can think of several scenarios where that could happen. The judge is on side 2, the brass ensemble is on side 2 and playing a FFF. The soloist is on side 1. Do you really think the brass judge could hear the acoustic sound of the soloist and not the amped sound? And I am still trying to determine IF the brass judges can distinguish between the acoustic and amped sound from the brass ensemble? If they cannot, this is a mute point.

But what if the only way the soloist can be heard is through the speaker? Does the brass judge not include that in their score? I find it virtually impossible for the brass judge to not hear any amplified brass sounds during a performance and to not consider that in the score.

Anyone have a link to the sheets?

So you are saying when a brass ensemble is playing at full volume and there is a trumpet solo being mic-ed over it, the brass judges does not judge the solo, because without the mic the solo would not be heard?

Who judges the sound coming out of the speakers?

Hypothetically speaking, what if they played the same?

So you saying the brass judge somehow ignores the amplified brass coming out of the speakers? Are they required to stand on the opposite side as the speakers? Do they then not judge soloists that are mic-ed? I am trying to envision a place during a performance where someone could stand to NOT hear the speakers. Even watching the performance from the back sidelines, you can hear the audio coming from the speakers. I understand they do not consider all the audio coming from the speakers in determining scores. I believe they can do this, they just currently do not. My question is why? And would still everyone's answer to the 2 questions I posed earlier. Question one: Can the brass judge distinguish which ensembles are mic-ing select players? While full field mic's are obvious, is this more recent phenomenon of the full time mic-ing select players within the ensemble even detectable? I would think a judge could distinguish if an ensemble was mic-ing 20 players in the ensemble, if they listen to the audio from the speaker and compare it to the acoustic sound. If they can't, then question 2 is pointless. Question two:. If there are two brass ensembles that are performing at the same level and one is mic-ed, who should be rewarded with a higher score?

But those are obvious. Mic-ing just your 20 best brass players is not so obvious, it's deceitful. And the judges are in on the deceit by rewarding those brass ensembles. Apparently the highest scoring brass ensemble will not be the one with the best musicians, from top to bottom. It will be a battle to see which brass ensembles can successfully use and hide this technology. I am against the use of any technology that removes the performers individual responsibility.

By ranked do you mean brass or overall score? If brass ranking, you are claiming that BD, Crown, Bluecoats, Cadets and PR all mic certain brass players through the entire performance. How can this be verified?

Why?