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How wonderful for you! Must have been nice. This is simply not achievable today, thanks largely in part to the boomers' gutting of the economy from about 1981 - 1992. You got yours. Now you're out here telling us how we need to march at one band because REASONS. YOu're a walking Old Economy Steve. I wasn't talking about how much student debt you owe, I was talking about how much you profit off of the student debt of the kids you bemoan in your earlier posts. (Spoiler alert: You own a lot more of it than you think you do.) You're welcome for the free money!

Who do you think buys the things that result in your shares of stock having more value? What do you think the yield of your bonds is based on? How much student debt do you own? (Probably quite a lot.) You know nothing about me. It's MARCHING BAND. MARCHING BAND. Kids should be in the band they want to be in. What happened to Madison? Failure of management to adapt. (See also: "Cadets, The")

Those #### kids are funding your retirement, despite the fact that they themselves will most likely never collect a dime of their own contributions. You're welcome. Then you come take a huge #### on them without understanding the way culture has evolved. This is pretty much the textbook definition of boomer culture. It's gross and entitled. The world exists outside of cornball notions of "fairness" and "wisdom." Let kids march wherever they want. It's ####### marching band. B A N D.

George likes to imply that he’s some kind of Cadets insider but whoever feeds him information is almost always wrong. Or he’s just guessing. Here and on reddit. It’s kind of funny.

Those were already in the works. Props had already come and gone once. My only point - I'm having a hard time watching my corps slip out of the upper tier, maybe permanently.

Agreed, but if I had stopped you on a street corner on June 28, 1999 and said, "Hey, 20 years from tonight, the Bluecoats will five-point the Cadets at their home show," you'd have laughed in my face. What a world

The Cadets just got five-pointed by the Bluecoats at J. Birney Crum. What planet is this?

Look, it seems like some folks have half the story and others have the other half. None of that inside baseball nonsense matters. The upshot is that the design of this show is very poor. Structurally, the narrative makes no sense. Woman is assaulted. Disappears. Returns like eight minutes later. Fin. The message of the show -- which is apparent only because they made a series of videos talking about it at length -- makes no sense. The show does nothing innovative or even really interesting. It probably would have been a pretty cool show in 2012 or so. The uniform feels like a uniform someone made up because "Welp, everybody makes up uniforms now, so I guess we better too!" There is no reason not to wear the old maroon and gold this year. It even fits, thematically. Two-thirds of the performance captions are incredibly weak. The color guard is easily the weakest color guard we've had maybe ever. The hornline is... average, I guess. About what you'd expect from a 7-10 place corps. (The percussion is amazing! Good work, Tom and company!) The corps doesn't do the little things. I just watched the Allentown encore. The arc they were standing in was horrible. Horn carriage from person-to-person was wildly inconsistent. Yes, stupid stuff, but on some level that stupid stuff is what makes the Cadets the Cadets. Exactly zero of this has anything to do with the kids in the corps, all of whom I'm sure are doing the "heads down, do your job" thing that we're known for. The adults have let them down. Staffs win championships. Let's go get a world class staff.

Does anyone know the last time we lost a caption to either of the Crossmen or the Blue Stars?

Update: They no longer tear off her dress. She is merely kind of tugged on and tugged at, then she kind of fights with some guy and disappears for, like, the entire show. Still exceedingly gratuitous and stupid.

The number of shows doesn’t change the fact that the design is a 7-10th place design. This is at best a middle tier band show.

I think we already know two things: (1) this design team ain't *it*, and (2) after another 7-9th place finish this year, the talent just won't be there. It's time for a massive rebuild. I do wonder why we don't have any home-grown talent leading the instructional teams, save for Tom. "Golden Age" Cadets alums run some of the most successful programs in the drum corps world. Why aren't they at home? Namely, in part: Daniel Riley is the guard caption head for Vanguard. Brad Toth is the brass caption head for Phantom. Derek Gipson is the brass caption head for Bluecoats. Mike Fanning and Jarrod Huntley are the visual co-caption heads for Bluecoats. Zach Schlicher is the Percussion Production Designer for Boston. Keith Potter and Leon May run the visual program for Boston. Ryan George is the brass arranger for Boston.

Maybe not, but it doesn't take rocket scientists to look at the past 18 months and say, "You know what? We should avoid literally staging sexual abuse on the field." I'm just completely stupefied that the current designers are so tone deaf. Just mortified. Did anyone learn anything? Honestly, the Board *should* step in here. I know at least one Board member posts here for some reason. This is how you lose supporters. Just. Be. The. Cadets.

You people should listen to me.

Excuse me for not reading the last 100 pages of replies, but who the #### thought it was a good idea to have the main female character literally stripped and beaten on the 50 yard line? What the actual ####? How? Why? Nuke this #### and start over. Ditch the "story," which is incomprehensible to start with.

I don’t think it is appropriate for a member of the Board of Directors to post in a forum like this.

Based on nothing more than having seen and heard a huge amount of drum corps and having a pretty good sense for what wins and what loses. Feel free to ignore with all of your might.

Yikes you guys get so easily triggered. It’s just marching band and placements are just made up. Yes I’ve heard the whole show and my opinion is that design-wise, it falls squarely in the 7-12 range. Just my opinion. We need some top tier design talent and fast.

I'm so happy that this corps exists and I'm not trying to be a downer, but this is a ninth place show. Hopefully this is a building year and we can see some return to excellence in the years to come!

I'm tempted to do it just to prove you wrong. That seems petty, but worth the $100 filing fee.

So cringe-inducing. Can we just do drum corps

Completely, 100% untrue. I could start The 27th Lancers Drum and Bugle Corps, Inc. tomorrow morning in, say, Idaho or Hawaii or Arkansas, and legally it would be fine. It would #### off a lot of people, but it would be legal. Interestingly, Denise Bonfiglio personally owns the trademark on "THE 27TH LANCERS FOUNDATION," but only as it applies to sweatshirts, and not as it applies to drum corps or marching bands.

Disagree. The only thing that matters is whether the underlying entity still exists. Whether someone says they are "operating" the organization or not doesn't really matter.

You can search the state database to see whether the corporation still exists. Google "[state] entity search". Every state has its own system. As for trademarks, you can search: http://tmsearch.uspto.gov. Click on "Basic Word Mark Search" and see what comes up.

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