tommytimp

I wish I could have seen so many of the Old School shows live. 65 Royal Airs, 75 SCV, Madison, Argonne Rebels, whichever year they tied Madison in have liked to witness live more than any other. I think among drum corps fans, however,the most famous show has to be from either the 70s or the 80s, because that's when DCI (and drum corps in general, as a non-military art form) asserted its primacy. So: Madison 75--Raw power, but, as some have said, a culmination, and not a storming of the walls BD 1976--Total domination; I don't find it as revolutionary as others do Garfield 1983--Zingali was already made by 1979, but this was the artsy show that finally won Garfield 84--Overrated in my opinion, but not without its benchmarks Of those 4, the obvious favorite on DCP is Garfield 84. But famous? I think BD 76.

The Phantom Julient The Concord Holy S#!t, WTF Are You Wearing? Mad Men Scouts

You heard me.

Stop being a ####.

Joliet Kingsmen, 1892, Hanson Park, Chicago. Their first performance ever. The average age looked about 8. And they sounded about the same. Racine Scouts, 1982, Whitewater A Day. I blame the staff for this one. Ill-prepared. unsure, sets didn't hit, bad notes int he hornline. What do they have in common? They didn't dog it, they went out and DID IT. So, no hate from me. Or from anyone, I would guess. "For never anything can be amiss When simpleness and duty tender it." -Shakespeare

Blue Devils. Westshoremen. It's a little known fact that Santa Clara Vanguard is actually named after a moving van. UPDATE: SCV was actually named for the security guy at the van company. Never mind.

I can't put a finger on a single show in the history of recorded time in which every single element was worthelss enough or loathsome enough to be "hated." There are certain parts of certain shows I don't like at all, but I can't think of a show that is devoid of any accomplishment or achievement. And I saw what may be the worst performances ever given by a junior drum and bugle corps, both in 1982. But there was no hate in the game, only appreciation.

Compared to their 86 show, the third act of "Noises Off" is a step up.

Rondinaro made jokes about it both years, I believe.

...green...

They were not on that night.

I believe the point was missed completely here. Call me crazy.

SCV 1980 is not an asymmetrical drill. It has an asymmetrical concert set-up and concert set, and the first half of "Jupiter" is asymmetrical. That's it. It's a fantastic drill, and brilliantly marched(though not as well as Phantom, wow), but it is not really all that asymmetrical.

Cadets 85.

Not much of a difference. (And I got paid to march my last two seasons.) Many people doing theatre at the pro level are of drum corps age. It's prolly what I would have done if I hadn't done corps in the summers. That's one of the best things about corps-the retention skills you can take away from it are phenomenal.

That kind of retention happens in professional theatre all the time. In a situation where a show is in previews, often the cast will rehearse new content during the day, then perform the "old" show at night until the new content is absolutely rehearsed, tech'd, and designed up to be put into the show. Go anywhere on the Intertubes and read recent accounts of the preview history of the new "Spider-Man" musical for an inkling of what I mean.

Kiss it. You all sound like cheap apologists. There is no excuse you can give here that makes them unique in "losing" them. You can reproduce any sound in DCI and that's part of the problem. Don't give me excuses about price, affordability, space, transportation, finding talent(!), spending too much time instructing on them, etc....Are you serious? First they came for the timps. Then they replaced the trumpets with saxes. And the Bluecoats were pleased. And Hopkins's poodles gave the saxes a smile.

Pre-paid charge cards (maybe a Visa with $200 on it for example), gift cards (Mickey D's, Target, national chains like that), and phone cards are great. Power strip if they're permitted. Wet wipes. Clean socks and undies. Dry foods that can't melt. Odor-eaters. Rolls of quarters. When I was in corps my girlfriend found me a hand rewinder for cassette tapes. I was the most popular guy on the bus for a long time. I should have charged for it. What would the equivalent of that be today? (Maybe one of those multi-charge pads.) Whatever it is, find it and send one along and your kids will be the talk of the bus!

Sorry I'm late. I was cleaning my apartment. I thought the book was pretty tasty if a little checky, and that the line (battery and pit) was a little too hyper-kick-azz for the Prokofiev show that was being done. (I had the same "probelem" with SCV the year before. Those guys looked like a 27 line.) First time I watched the timp player, he was so "into it" that he literally missed his drums a couple of times he was swinging so wildly; I wanted to throw a tarp over him or hose him down. We bunked w/NA at DeKalb and i talked with some of their guys and watched their run-throughon Friday night and appreciated the level of difficulty and thought they werre cleaner than we were but that we would clean and execute better than they would or Gmen would. AND I WAS RIGHT. I kind of wish NA had made Top 25 that year; I liked their show better than Spartans or L'Insolite. Glassmen were our boyz that year so I'll never break bad on them, but I would like to have seen NA make it in.

1983, both the Knights and the Crossmen played the Overture to Glinka's "Russlan and Ludmilla." See if you can guess which verion I preferred--the up-and-comers who got ripped out of a Top 12 spot, or the jazz corps with a fine drumline that pulled one of the most head-scratching 180s in DCI history? You make the call.

Everything is relative. When I marched there was a corps that beat us one year (and ever after) with what IMO was a horribly overrated show. But you can't blame the members for that, right? That's what I thought until my last year when I met their DM on tour and as we shared a housing site together. (And I watched their practices and hated their practice methods. All negative reinforcement.) Then a few nights later their DM accused us, indirectly, of stealing their pylons. Logic aside (why would we take another corp's pylons with a week and a half to go in the season? Because we'd been going without for this long and finally had the opportunity we wanted?), what kind of atmosphere breeds that paranoiac behavior? Either he or onr of the instructors made that leap in logic and decided to share it with me. IN UNIFORM. That, to me, is worthy of hatred. and that's why you'll never get me to say a good thing about that organization and I'm glad that they ceased to exist even before we did.

I remember seeing them at DeKalb for the first time and liking their show and the level of difficulty, although I questioned the gung-ho nature of the drum line.

Somebody moderate this game already. We're only a page and a half in and it's already like a buffet in here.

None of them have ever played in my living room. What do I win? I'd like to win a living room.

Agreed. But that 85 corps was good.