tommytimp

No. Saw it, it's not as heavy as some people seem to think it is. It's a psych thriller wrapped in ironically pretty paper. Phantom did Swan Lake already, in 87, and it was great. And I don't see the plot as being drum corps-friendly at all.

Phantom 1996. And NOT JUST because of Kristy Spears. I think I'd vote for Anaheim second. Big Blue was awesome looking, and the rifles were SO HOT. (Dig them in the Historical Photos section.)

That's 1985. I bet both statements hold though.

Apparently everyone's ideas are now guided by fear. Welcome to the Tens.

Muchachos 1974. I would add Muchachos 1975, but that show never existed. If you can find the San Jose Raiders 82 or 83 shows, they are almost pure Latin, i.e. the percussion is congas, bongos, and side drums, no tenors.

I actually have no idea. But it is the scourge of the American business system. And I've BEEN a consultant.

Plus, you can't tell me that judges' likes and dislikes don't enter into their scoring. I marched with the Knights in the mid-80s.

That show was the talk of our bus on tour. It was all, "What do YOU think of Suncoast?" At first I was putoff by the atonality, and what I ended up saying was, "It's certainly difficult, innit?" But the show really grew on me, and the guard work was fantastic. Plus the pit book was CRAY-ZEE.

1980, too. They pretty much built the show around him, which wasn't necessarily a bad thing.

Plus consulting fees. The bane of the American business structure.

Voted for Madison. Even though I wasn't crazy about the guard concept, it was great to see the old-school look so well done. Now get the spats for next year. Who cares how dirty the feet are? The screams of delight will make up for it.

As do I. These things should be discussed, say I, by eras, the way we do many things in this quiet corner. Pre-DCI (ex:Price, Centorino, Dorritie), valve-rotor (Kievit, Metzger), two-valve (Brady [i think], Dalstrup, Noonan), 80s (Harpo Blum, Dan Moore, Chris Eble, Morgan Larsen, etc.), 90s, three-valve, etc. What say the brassheads?

We sure that's not a photoshop?

That 83 WGI show is one of the most unbelievable things I've ever seen. There's a flag move I still can't figure out after all this time.

Let's see some WHY, friends!

But not DCI. You're right though.

I would tend to agree. Although I liked the unis a little more than you I think, and I loved them on the guard. Crossmen 83 might fit in this criterion as well.

I really wouldn't worry about the dictionary definition; I think (at least I hope) everyone's got the vibe of the thread. And I hope it doesn't become the "Your show's so bad..." thread. There's plenty of that elsewhere, and while I don't mind it, it's not what I'm after in this one. 'm seriously looking for what shows generated interesting, controversial responses in people and why. Like the shows I mentioned, or the Reveries in 66, etc.

Ludwig timps are the best. At least at the drum corps level. Yamahas are good, but nothing really is as good as the Ludwig sound with a clear head.

Shows you what I know too. Of course it's 1991. Durr.

The post on "Most famous show ever" has gotten varied responses and a lot of wondering what "famous" means in this instance. So, being the contrarian ####### that I am, I thought I'd float a discussion of some of the more "infamous" shows in history. Three that spring to my mind right away are the 75 Muchachos, because of what they stood for (the first Eastern corps with a shot) and because of how they were basically snuffed out, rightly or wrongly, in one fell swoop. Second is Suncoast Sound 1984, with the most political show in DCI history, in fact the only overtly political show in DCI history. (SCV 1991 made a comment on the losing of th Viet Nam war, but Miss Saigon is a Broadway show, whereas Suncoast was doing a commentary on the 60s. Third is Star of Indiana 1993, for many reasons, all content-related. Love ot or hate it(I love it except the symmetrical pit), people really react to this show. What do you think?

Yeah. I guess it's a shame we left our pink ladders and green elf at holme. Sorry, home. And the only epic thing about the Marauders in 88 was when the DM, Corey, back-handedly accused us of stealing their cones in Birmingham. Stay classy, Longview.

Sez you. Speaking of mish-mash, Marauder's show WAS actually a little more like toad-in-the-hole than a jelly garnish, now that you mention it. And our 86, 87, and 88 shows made the Marauders look like a marching band. Oh, wait. No they didn't. They were designed that way. Check out our recordings if you'd like to hear some drum corps, though! Thanks for playing! Epic, my azz.

Fixed that for you. Yicch.

Not sure. He was GMen's DM in 1988, when I was for QCK, which is when I really got to know him. I know he went to IU, so he may be in the state.