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Shut Up !!!!!

----------------------- Wouldn't you say Game on ????

----------- Jeff, cmon, you know the answer to that one..........LOL!

----------------- I thought first place was already determined................... :tongue:

--------------------- No excuses Liz

-------- with a score that has been pre-determined.........

First of all - - Elpha... whoever you are........ Whether a corps runs a show or not......... what does that matter ? Kidsgrove is here to compete - - they came, they saw and they conquered. Does that mean they should place last because they haven't paid their dues or hosted a show......... Whichever person said that if we call it WORLD championships........ then that is what it should be was dead nuts on. If we are not here to ask every to join us on the field of competition then change it and change admittance to the circuit. If you are here to compete, compete. If you beat people you only SEE one time each year.... so BE it. That is what competition is all about. God, get a grip. THEY WERE on fire. And they should have been judged as such.

------------ Close to the stupidest post............ the year isn't over yet.

---------- To both comments...........

--------------------- As with Frank and some of the others --- If KIDSGROVE Scouts, came to Bridgeport and kicked everyone's ###................ then they should have one. I have seen all of the other shows at least once this year and there is NO WAY, NO HOW that Kidsgrove Scout doesn't slam dunk the entire lot of them at Bridgeport. What does that tell you - - that the DCA judging which mirrors USSBA............... is NOT fair, NOT accurate and does NOT reflect the actions of the corps on the field. The concept that you start with a certain score and work your way through the season to a better point - - - is and has been crap. That a judge has to "see" a corps 2-3 times to get a "feel for the show" to be able to capture its merit - - if I could use stronger words without being deleted, I think you all know what they would be - - that whole idea is even MORE CRAP then the first. So judges - - you messed up. Crowd - you got it ABSOLUTELY right - - boo away. I have never seen a case where it was more deserved. DCA - - I hope that our corps brethren Kidsgrove - - leaves knowing that the REST of us believe they were the best and decides that they WILL come back and entertain us. What a disappointing end to a great night in Bridgeport.

----------------------- These are the kinds of ideas that need to be hashed out and discussed. Awesome! Nothing is impossible, and if there is a TRUE interest in saving all aspects in the activity, then we can put aside the we did this, but we can't do that attitude and move forward.

-------------------------- You didn't read my post................ I was talking about the organizations starting task forces to deal with the issue of the future of drum corps. I am well aware they "talk" to each other. That isn't what I was getting at.

------------ Agreed - - BUT don't you think we ALL have vested interests in each other's worlds............ they are not entities in and of themselves.................. Cooperation is great, but that isn't what I am looking for... I am looking for discussion, ideas, FROM ALL of us. Not just DCI leading the way or DCA - - bring it to the table TOGETHER and lets figure it out. If we can't at least do that...............then we are all talking out of our #####.

Liz, you and Jeff are both right in what you are saying..... However - - unless we are all willing to come together DCA, DCI, minicorps, ALUMNI's - - everyone and hash out a solution..................something - - we will all be left with nothing. You can see the demise already with the state of DCI itself now - not including all the others. Do I have a solution ? Nope. But I do know - - as with this and other threads.............there is NO coordinated effort to save any remnants of the activity because each party is in their own "well we have done it this way since the dawn of time, and we can't possibly change our thinking now" mode. IF DCI or DCA were smart -- either one of these organizations or both could create a task force to put the whole "future of drum corps" issue on the table and at least get a coordinated, documented effort to do something, anything. A task force doesn't cost a lot of money and you would have volunteers to sit on it in less than a minute coming out of your ears. And it gets people talking face to face about the same concern DRUM CORPS - without the veil of message boards and comfort of the behind your screen computer zone. NO ONE is willing to even do that. So what does that tell you? It doesn't take a genius to figure out the each party has a vested interest in what they others do....... so why not talk to each other and figure out ways to make sure we are ALL here in 10 or 20 years. But instead of talking, each organization just keeps doing what they have known how to do, while money gets tighter, membership in most cases dwindles and some areas turn into something that doesn't even look like drum corps any more.

Hey you know what -- When in 10 or 15 years we are ALL standing around wondering where the good old days of DRUM CORPS went too..........because no one wants to change what it is that they do today.....Guess these types of discussion won't matter at all then. The activity is bleeding - - in all areas. No idea should be off the table and I think our days of "we can't do this because we can't move that or we can't change that" are also coming to a close. Pretty soon it won't matter. We are already looking at high priced twisted versions of marching band, where only the rich kids can march and only the well established corps can manage (not thrive). SO, let's keep up the we can't change attitude and pretty soon - - that is all you will all have left.

Doesn't count - - - once you dismissed us, that was it. The final tally was 10 - - and it was a tie win. I owe Gerry and John $1 each. I WAY underestimated you. BLONDIE

----------------------- There was ????? LOL!

--------- Keith, I agree. In the case of Sun, DCA and the larger organization there in had nothing to do with Sun's problems. Sun's problems were/are many, but DCA wasn't one of them.

------------ Yes, I know. But DCI long ago set the stage, hence my reference to the top 12 being set in place already. That is what I meant. This created an atmosphere for the G7 to do their prima donna thing. So it is a classic case of you reap what you sew ................ DCI is no less to blame then the G7. They are part in parcel of the same attitude that was created and reinforced over these many years. DCI may have been blindsided as you put it - - but it is the enemy that THEY created.

--------------- I agree - - WE MISS YOU KEV !!!!!!!!!!!! Love Blondie

------------------ Jim - - wasn't the opener that year "Like a Bridgemen" (insert like a virgin music here") ???? :lol: Blondie

--------------- Nah, we don't have any of that severe weather stuff here !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The only forecast is that for sure Santa arrives tonight ! Dress warm, play hot !!!!!!!!!!!!! LOVE ME