rmurrey74
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56 minutes ago, Cappybara said:
Thanks. This is another thread with no date. I really think we should start making it a requirement for show threads for the date to atleast be put in the OP if it’s not in the title along with the info Karuna just posted. Thoughts, @JohnZ?
Please! It's been confusing trying to find/decipher show threads this year. At least that would help.
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8 minutes ago, LabMaster said:
When traveling under the care and protection of the organization, the organization IS ultimately responsible. Especially with mixed ages of the members in their care.
I'm NOT disagreeing, but what should these organizations do to prevent potential activity where sexual assault could happen? If policies are in place, whistle-blowing hotlines, and all are trained on mandatory reporting, how can they further limit the interactions between people? I'm not saying they can't be better, I just don't know how any organization (drum corps, traveling sports group, college campus, school district, etc.) can completely handle this.
For example, If two staff members or two corps members venture out at 3am at a random school and sexual assault occurs, what can be done to prevent? Over my many years of drum corps, I've seen or known about sexual activity (not assault luckily) happen on member buses, on a staff bus, in the trees at a show site, free days, on a gym floor, people in an empty classroom, and non-drum corps related in high school sports groups and college. (where my roommate stayed overnight in his girlfriend's dorm for over a month until they broke up.)
I wouldn't want to be involved in any admin role of any traveling organization right now.
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1 minute ago, IllianaLancerContra said:
We did both in HS & College band - 4 to a room, 2 to a bed
Same. I shared a dorm in college probably like most here.
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3 minutes ago, Grandpa Joe said:
Having dealt with large high school programs, it's actually quite manageable. You basically explained it for yourself in your second sentence. One male and one female adult staff member and/or parent, stationed at either end of the hall, tape on the doors to ensure the noticeability that someone has opened the door, hourly patrol sessions. It's not hard. Yes, they're dealing with "adults" in drum corps, but the same thing could be done to ensure things like this can't happen in hotel rooms of all places.
Between have chaperones patrolling all night in all the gyms during the entire summer too.
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7 minutes ago, Grandpa Joe said:
I want to know why they were allowed to stay in the same room? Over 18 or not, it shouldn't be happening.
It’s pretty common that over 18 same sex members share a room when in dorms/hotels.
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12 hours ago, Weaklefthand4ever said:
Agreed Cappy. It's a fantastic ballad. Whomever the cat is on flugel....brother you have some gorgeous tone man. The only thing I hope they add, is some voicing to when the full ensemble comes in. The whole drum set "thump" on 2 and 4 is just....meh. With such a good pit, they can add a lot of timbre and color to that 8 or 10 measures. It just feel the tiniest bit empty to me as a drummer.
Definitely my favorite show of the year.
Agreed, I feel like they could make that moment more special with something more than just drum set underneath.
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1 hour ago, Vuitton said:
I was blocked by Madison on Twitter in 2019 after commenting something about hoping Blue Devils B and Vanguard Cadets don't beat them finals week. Under the corps preview video on YouTube there were comments critical to the design. All deleted.
In 2014 (or maybe 2013 - can't quite remember) I sent Jim Mason a message on Facebook. The message was just me gushing over Star. I'm a HUGE Star fan and in that moment I was listening to and watching Star like crazy. To my complete surprise, he responded to thank me for my comments and tell me what a wonderful time he had at Star and how proud he was of that organization and the achievements of it and its members.
Then, and I would never have the guts to do this face-to-face, I replied and said I felt like he was doing at Madison what he did at Star in '88 and '89 - writing shows beneath the talent of their members and therefore inhibiting their competetive success. To my surprise, again, he wrote back. I was nervous to see what he had to say. He was wonderful and kind. He told me what he thought had to be done to move a corps up the rankings and what he and the team were doing to get them there, amongst other things. I may not have completely understood or agreed with him, but I respected him even more. He could have just ignored me. He could have just shot me down. Instead, he was open to what I had to say and shared his thoughts in a concise and kind way. I will never forget that and I will always appreciate it.
That's how you handle criticsm. You don't threaten to throw someone in a lake with concrete blocks around their ankles.
That's great that Jim handled your criticism in that way, but if you reached out to him with those comments questioning his team's level of design and inhibiting competitive success, how many other alumni were doing the same thing? That's kind of the point.
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10 minutes ago, madisonsmiley said:
Alumni have control over the Scouts' program? That's interesting. Who makes personnel decisions? I thought Komnick did. And aren't their programs designed for the judges and the audience? I'm surprised the alumni could have such an outsized influence on the Scouts' program design.
Best wishes to all of the creative and instructional staff, and members for a great season! Nice to see them currently at 13.Correct, they have made past designers glad to be somewhere where they’re allowed complete freedom without all the negative comments from alumni living in the past.
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21 minutes ago, brassboy said:
Thanks for filling the DrumScorps void with this! So far it seems to be working pretty great. Two things that I would love to see changed/fixed: contest results combine World and Open class into one result (e.g. Gold listed in 6th place among all corps at Rose Bowl vs. 1st place in Open); and the recaps are listed in reverse order of appearance as opposed to order of final placement.
Agreed on the recaps. Sorting by final results like through DCI would be preferred.
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Loving this app. It's well thought out and I'm looking forward to seeing it develop.
If anyone hasn't checked this out yet, download it and give it a try. It's a great way to pull up scores, recaps and the schedule.
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29 minutes ago, Grandpa Joe said:
It feels like it falls apart every time too. Is it supposed to feel that way?
Anyone familiar with the source material enough to give insight?
Yes, listen to the original
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1 hour ago, HockeyDad said:
So it’s the alumni fault that the Scouts aren’t competitive. Deflect. Blame others. Don’t take responsibility. And round and round we go….
Not all, but alumni have had a direct effect of top designers not wanting to work there. They'll have to take a chance on younger talent, which isn't a bad thing, or shell out $$$ to make it hard decision.
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On 7/6/2023 at 1:44 PM, HockeyDad said:
Gee Wally all we need to do is have a lemonade stand and think happy thoughts and everything will get better!
With respect the “pull together and get behind them” approach has had many years to work and it hasn’t. The board and director need to resign or be flushed and replaced. Not with relics of the past but looking to the future. I’m sure Mr. Seidling is a great guy but the future is with people like the staffers of the Bluecoats. Go entice a few of them over and rebuild!
I won’t name names, but from a staff perspective in the activity, designing at Madison is not looked at as a popular destination because of past experiences with the alumni base. That’s definitely discussed throughout. Some people like the freedom to create and openness to ideas of other organizations.
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5 hours ago, brassboy said:
I think Bloo has their work cut out for them regarding setup and teardown time. From salute to last cutoff, their show clocked in at just under 14 minutes, and corps have 17 minute slots. It took them a long time just to set up their tarps today. I know they’ll get faster, but still.
First show and first time coming on the field. I bet they will figure it out by San Antonio which I believe is when it counts for the first time. They do have the longest show this year in performance time! It still flies by.
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Absolute love every minute of it. Thanks Bluecoats!
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Love the look and the costumes! So flowing and just a breath of fresh air. I can’t wait to see this live!
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14 minutes ago, BlueStainGlass said:
I know there have been some seasons where it's closed rehearsal before first show. I was going to take students a couple years ago before the Detroit show and they wouldn't let anyone go. Phantom, blue stars, and crown welcomed all that week so they still got to see top groups rehearse
They typically have had one closed rehearsal per year since 2016. Every single other day of spring training wide open to the public, including this year.
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3 minutes ago, Grandpa Joe said:
I edited my post. Read again. My anger due to this thread has me mixing corps names. Bluecoats are charging $7,000.
But, they’re not?
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47 minutes ago, ContraFart said:
I want the number to mean the value it says it is, and that value to be relatively equivalent from competition to competition.
Right now all I am hearing is that the numbers are based off of management and that they are withheld until the end so they can be changed after the fact. To me that is not judging the show in front of you. That is putting a number in place of an ordinal.
So by that definition, the 99.65 is irrelevant because it could have been simply a case of the 12 place corps being given a number that was too high which either made the spreads tighter, or caused you to run out of room at the top so you are automatically maxing out a score sheet.
The fact that nobody seems to understand why I believe this is bad baffles me
Yes, numbers have always been managed. Are you new to this activity? Before judges were given the ability to change numbers prior to the end of the show, as a judge you had to leave room.
Even if you thought the third group from the end had incredible design and performance, you couldn't write down the max rating of 20.0 because what if the following two groups were even better? Not always, but the highest you would typically score would be a 19.8 to allow the possible 19.9 and 20.0. Now with the flexibility to adjust before submitting, you can put the numbers in the correct order while adhering to the value of a tenth.
There's always been numbers management. It's a rating of the competition in front of you at that time based on the criteria of the sheet. It's not a comparison to other classes, shows during that season or past years.
I'm done posting on this.
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2 hours ago, ContraFart said:
So I guess you can get a perfect score by breaking my immersion in a show for 30 seconds because there was a crash and its like it never happened because she recovered?
I may not be able to define perfection, but I know that when a huge fall happens, it's not perfect. I don't think it's that hard.
It's never been a perfect score and you said yourself you're concentrating on a perfect score. You're simply wrong and perfect is not a wording that has ever existed on any judging sheet. It's the highest or max score in a ranking. As someone that has been a visual judge myself and was in-person at WGI Finals, I would have ranked RCC the highest of the night as well.
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4 hours ago, OldSnareDrummer said:
IMHO, headwear makes the corps have more stage presence. Everyone looks taller.
"Stretch" here is a perfect example. 5'4" to 6'5".
I don’t miss this look at all. Love seeing the performers perform. What corps is this and are they struggling to hold m their horns or just holding them different ways person to person?
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I’m on a caption staff of 17 people. 2 weeks before finals, I was on the road with the caption head and 1 other tech. Less people than when I marched and I definitely earned my $25 a day for each day that I taught. Big staff’s but there’s only so much room on the bus and each caption typically limits to a max of 4. The more days you teach, the more you earn. It is much better mentally to teach for a week or two and leave then to teach all summer like most did back in the day, myself included.
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When will Hopkins be removed from this HOF?
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7 minutes ago, bullethead said:
Might want to check out the numerous WGI groups with cymbal lines before making that sort of assumption.
Cool, and there were still open cymbals spots last year in DCI.
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Battle At The Alamo(dome) - July 22,2023
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