beenthere

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    Never Marched, but voluntered
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    27th Lancers
  1. I agree with the poster who suggested slowing down a little. Why must everything be done at warp speed. I don't think we need to go back to symetrical drills or anything like that but it seems that speed and constantly changing patterns are used to obscure poor marching (just an opinion). On the subject of design, to me it seems like designers are coming up with a visual program first then forcing the music to fit the visual. This coupled with the speed might be what is creating the "chopped" up music theat we hear so much of. The visual progam should be designed to fit the music. I also
  2. Interesting discussion First off I don't believe DCI needs to have a hard and fast written rule about performance order. What has been quoted here is a policy decision made by the board and as a policy it can be changed, deleted or whatever by the board. Is it fair? maybe, maybe not. I would prefer a rando draw for position for all corps below the top 6 or so. Maybe then we would see more movement between positions than we have today. The Star of Indiana example from 1985 of having to go on firest in every show is not a valid comparison. In 1985 there were more Div I corps and not all
  3. The way to increase the number of corps is to go back in time. This wouldn't please many of todays members and fans. Once upon a time, in the dark ages all the corps were local, they were relativily small, the vast majority of the membership had no musical background, the staff was mostly volunteer and or low paid (for the love of the activity) and most never traveled more than a couple of hundered miles from home except for a trip to VFW or the World Open or such. With that said, and all the moaning about the lack of quality music programs why wouldn't it be possible to go back to that mod
  4. Very intersting topic. I'm one of those "ancients". Started in 1961. I have all the respect in the world for today's marchers. The amount of time required of them, the complexity of the shows and music and the difficulty of living conditions on a two month tour are deserving of respect no matter what era you marched in. The shows are different. the instrumentation is different and the kids who march are different. For one they are all musicians, whereas back in the dark ages the vast majority of us had never touched an instrument couldn't read music etc. As far as the changes I like tod
  5. 1964 - Troopers, Company front, circle WOW 1965 - Chicago Royal Airs - Whole show (One of GR's favorites) 1981 - 27th 1987 - Santa Clara 1995 - Madison
  6. I don't think you can make the analogy the because there are so many bands now that DC is healthier. Yes they are related but they are different beasts. To look at it a different way, rugby and football are closely related, does having more rugby teams mean football is stronger. I don't think so. That said I think Band and DCI drum corps are closely bonded now. For us old pharts who go back to the 60's and into the early 70's there was a distinct boundary between corps and band. That boundary was that high school band directors of that era did not like drum corps. Many of them penalized
  7. The only problem with comparing era's is that in the 60's and into the early years of DCI not every corps attended Nationals. The VFW was the "big" contest for Juniors in the 60's. In 1963 the Cavaliers won the championship in Seattle, Washington. The Troopers who were a couple of years away from being a power were 2nd. Would the Cavaliers have won if the other powers of the time were present. Nobody knows and there never was a single contest that year that had all of the eastern and midwestern powers. Another probelm was you had to be sponsored by a VFW post. If you wern't you couldn't
  8. The same thing happened to DCE, except it was a slow death. The big corps would be around in early June, but wouldn't have completed shows. By the time the show was finished they would be off to the south or midwest. Then they would come back between tours do a championship and maybe one or two other shows. The little corps needed a couple of "headliners" at each show to make a go of it. With those corps on tour they were hung out to dry. A large number of those defunct corps came from the east and died off either from trying to keep up with the big boys or from lack of support if they s
  9. Over the past five or ten years I've left shows feeling kind of down. The performances seemed to be lacking in emotional impact from what I was used to (or remembered). Maybe it's because they are moving so fast. Maybe it's because we have so many more music majors and bandos now and technical ability has taken precedence over the old raw emotional power. But the strange thing is if you put on the cd's with headphones on it comes across differently. Just wish I could get the same feeling when actualy viewing and hearing the performance. Would love to be able to get up and scream and holl
  10. In many threads and now with the Madison situation the subject of "Corps identity" comes up. IMO there are two kinds of identity. The first is internal to the coprs. This involves the traditions that fans don't see or hear. This could be corps songs, initiation rites etc. I think this is what the Scout alumns mean when they talk about traditions and brotherhood. It's also similar to what George Hopkins said a few years back when he said the Cadets would still be the Cadets even if you added woodwinds and electronics. The second identity is fan expectation. Madison; loud and accesable (
  11. I've been lurking in the background for the past six months as a guest. Bit of background, been following Drum Corps since 1962. Never marched but did volunteer work. This whole tradition vs innovation/evolution thing has me perplexed. I certainly don't want to go back to the days of a prescribed program, ie off the line, color pre, etc. Nor do I want to hear the same song played by four different corps at a show. On the other hand it would be nice if a corps like Casper could get credit for doing a more "traditional" show, or Boston could play more than a few notes of "Conquest" The amp