cybersnyder
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Drum Corps International. Which proposal excludes drums?
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5 minutes ago, JimF-LowBari said:
Well one is in a group that has had woodwinds for decades and the other has been unique because it never had them. Apples vs oranges anyone?
Yeah some of us stuck around for the sound....
Not sure apples and oranges, maybe fuji apples and granny smith at best. (I think those are two different color apples, please substitute if not.) I'm just not sure that the sound will change much if at all.
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Just now, Poppycock said:
Be interesting to find out how many of these 100% investment subject matter experts paid for their own transportation, housing and meals this weekend.
I don't understand.
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Most donations are to individual corps. Will people withhold support to their corps of choice because of a DCI run allowing all instruments? I'm sure some will, but I guess I'd have to ask if you were supporting the corps and the kids or trying to remain influential?
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6 minutes ago, Poppycock said:
Please! They’re only involved for the money. IMO
There are so many other ways to make a lot more money. Maybe to eek out a living while staying alive in their field that was fun in high school and college?
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2 minutes ago, ranintothedoor said:
This is a good point, and part of the reason that I'll be staying a fan of DCI (or whatever it's called eventually) corps regardless of my preferences in instrumentation or how this vote goes.
I would prefer all brass, but I think it will be fine with woodwind - maybe even something new and interesting. Drum corps and "band" has been merging all along.
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Fun how a few weeks ago someone posts a Vandegrift HS video and we think its great, but if DCI adds woodwinds, it will suck. The lowest scoring will be better than Vandegrift. DCI is good because they commit more than a year to producing 11-12 minutes of intense choreography.
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Sometimes this is like watching an argument at a comic book convention where Teenage mutant Ninja Turtle comic books are declared stupid, but Superman comic books are the bomb.
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Just now, rmurrey74 said:
If they still exist.
Well, I was trying to be optimistic.
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Just now, Glenn426 said:
But I guess now you guys and everyone who are #neverWW can enjoy DCA.
For a couple years. They'll go WW too eventually.
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I think all instruments will pass and woodwinds will be used, but sparingly. If they expand membership to 200, then there might be dedicated woodwinds sections, but at current levels, WC would take a hit on overall sound by marching woodwinds. OC groups could benefit from extra bodies on the field by marching woodwinds.
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Just now, WaxDCIFan said:
As a former contra player, plugged in bass is stupid. Nothing beats a walking baseline played by a great contra section. Very little skill is required to do this on an amplified guitar. Why bother going on the field at all?
Cool. I ran into that opinion a lot.
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26 minutes ago, Angelee said:
I’m a nobody around here, but I’ve only been a DCI observer since I saw the 1989 DCI finals on PBS when I was a freshman in high school. I never had the opportunity to march for anyone, but I married a 90s DCI alum so we’re as a family in love with the activity! I’ve also stalked these forums for years, but I’m not much of a commenter as I had personally no official ties to the activity. Until recently!
Anyway, my son is a Madison Scout this year for his very first drum corps performing experience. 💚🤍⚜️ We as a family are so excited by the energy this program has surrounding it this year! Both camps my son has attended has lit a fire under him that I’ve never seen. His HS experience has been wonderful, but the acceptance and kinship the Scouts has is already obvious. Even with the negatives coming into this season, the kids are on fire with passion and I’m so excited to be a part of the Scouts family!
(Just some positive words for an obviously stressful weekend in DCI)Congrats to you and your son! Enjoy the season!!
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1 minute ago, kalad's_phantoms_regiment said:
Not entirely on the topic of woodwinds, but I'm confused about Kathy Black's comment on guitars — haven't several corps used acoustic guitars recently? Southwind in 2018 comes to mind.
Yes, plugged in instruments on the sidelines is ok. No idea what year that was added. I am partial to the electric bass.
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3 minutes ago, Tim K said:
I have seen opposition to woodwinds on Reddit and various Facebook groups. My thoughts on the Facebook groups is that many have probably not been to a Sophie in years and just like to argue. Reddit seems more opposed to the practical issues than tradition. DCP seems to have wide ranging opinions, some valid, others a bit out there.
I'm read-only on reddit, that place can be harsh. "I like puppies" turns into nazi sympathizing.
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3 minutes ago, Jeff Ream said:
You obviously didn’t read what I said about staying true to ones beliefs. That’s ok I’m not surprised
Play the martyr card if you wish, I'm with you on most of your posts but thought it was a little weak using Neil as a weapon against woodwinds. All Instruments are the beliefs of other that they're being true to. I understand why people don't want all instruments, but I really don't think it will be the end of the genre. I think the genre already died. Troopers in pajamas was my wake up call that things have changed.
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Just now, Jeff Ream said:
So on a weekend drummers Everywhere mourn the death of Neil Pearl, who became an icon for staying true to his values and beliefs, those of us opposed to woodwinds in drum corps state our views and are mocked for it. I’m sure there’s a Rush lyric that fits the moment but sadly I just keep hearing Ben Stern saying “ don’t be stupid you moron” instead
Come on. You can't use Neil Peart as a prop to support a woodwinds / no woodwinds platform. Neil revolutionized drumming, definitely strayed from the status quo.
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3 minutes ago, Terri Schehr said:
Did you look at Facebook drum and bugle corps? DCP Facebook? DCI’s Facebook page? I don’t think you’re looking in the right places.
I don't follow those.
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7 minutes ago, HockeyDad said:
And somehow we know that your average 15 year old is really clamoring for woodwinds in DCI? Your premise has no basis behind it. What if your garden variety 15 year old today likes DCI partly because it is different in instrumentation from marching bands. In this case the change could be a very bad idea.
I tried to find woodwinds clamoring for inclusion in DCI, but I can't find any. Do you know what else I can' find other than here on DCP? People opposed to the idea. If it happens, not much will change for the vast majority. If it happens, not much will change for the vast majority.
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2 hours ago, KVG_DC said:
Fair enough. It seems kinda serious this time though. Ticket prices for NFL games not against teams near by were going for like $4 by the end of the season. Games against nearby teams were going for more because the demand was actually coming from away fans. Dannyboy's pocket might be feeling the reality.
I don't really follow the sport anymore anyway. it's just something that comes up on the news.Weren’t those tickets on the secondary market? The ‘skins already got their money but season ticket holders couldn’t dump their tickets. If enough PSL owners don’t renew, the he’ll feel the pinch.
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I would watch what the Blue Devils do the first year. They will utilize WW to maximize their score and then everyone else will do the same the following year. I'm not BD hating, they're kinda like the Patriots and know how to win. Except this year, sorry Brady, not sorry.
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2 minutes ago, jjeffeory said:
That's worthy of a ban.
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4 minutes ago, KVG_DC said:
I just wanna know if the live birds count against the marching member cap or not.
Not against the cap, but can be used for the 55 member minimum.
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24 minutes ago, garfield said:
You (conveniently?) left out THE key word in that sentence then turned it into something else.
TASKS. "...administrative TASKS desired by the membership". You conflated that to mean that this proposal was desired by the membership.
For example: "Hey DCI, we, the member corps, have been talking about whether or not we should require all members to eat green eggs and ham before each contest. Please put together a committee to study the effects of green eggs and ham and give us the information so we can Congress, caucus, and vote with full understanding of the details."
That, in no way, suggests that the voting membership or the committee members "desired" to feed their kids green eggs and ham.
Sam I am.
I thought your comment was easy to understand. Sometimes proposals are meant to put ideas to rest. Raise your hand, go on the record if you want woodwinds. I guess you can always vote "Present".
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2020 Rules Proposals
in DCI World Class Corps Discussions
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Just something didn’t convey in the text of your original comment. Maybe if I heard inflection if it were spoken, I would have gotten it. Maybe I agree, maybe I disagree. I truly just didn’t understand the background or intent of the comment. So then I had to guess That’s it. Truce.