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Nobody's complaing about dciguy01 doing these "standings." I think it's awesome (and one of the most convenient way to check for scores).

Those who are smart "get it." Not everyone is smart. I was only speaking in defense of CorpsLife.

Hey, there's nothing with being excited about your favorite corps (or all corps!) improving. This is definitely the most exciting part of the season in my opinion. And I'm not saying that it's pointless to have competition before the "big week" but I'm saying that comparing scores from two different shows is NOT competition and not indication of change in the actual standings. i.e. how could someone say that Blue Stars is in 8th place when they didn't even compete against BK, BAC, or GMen? If Blue Stars is in 8th place come this weekend, then yes that's definitely something for the fans to get excited about. And I'm not saying it's bad to put up fake standings, either. I check them, for amusement. But the point is that a lot of people are getting stoked about perceived placement changes, and they just might be a little upset once all the corps compete at the same show again. (Then again, they might not, there's no way of knowing until it happens!)

Nobody. He's merely pointing out that people are having a hissy fit about all these "placement changes" when really it's false excitement. While it's fun to update the "standings" (and notice that the word is in quotes even in the thread title) every day or so, it doesn't mean anything. Madison closing the gap on Boston? Crown dropping to 3rd? Blue Stars in 8th place? People are acting like these placements are from quaterfinals or something, when in reality they don't actually "mean" anything.

<-- Really looking forward to your Boston review.

These tallies aren't right. Make sure to add/take away points when you vote (and include the new scores in your post) so there's a running total.

I don't think he's talking about forms. The Cavaliers, form-wise, are generally pretty clean. Especially from up top where their uniforms really help out. He's talking about visual style from person to person. Personally, I've always though the Cavaliers are weak at this. Their upper and lower body technique is generally very different from person to person. However, their style is very hard to get uniform from person to person (especially in the lower body). The trick is, the uniforms distract from the lower body so you notice the forms over the style of movement between forms. And of course, because I'll get flamed if I don't say it, I'm not "bashing" the Cavaliers just pointing out that I've always noticed this problem with them. Bicycle is just harder to make uniform than straight leg. But that doesn't explain away the relatively lax upper body posture I've noticed from them over the years. But really it's something you mostly only notice either from close-up or side views.

Uh oh! Better call the

Yeah but then people would complain about how they make it sound good but they never move while playing them. /flamebait

To be fair, this should have a neither option. Not everyone will have a problem with one or the other...

I agree with you that last year's product, overall, was fantastic top-to-bottom. On the other hand, if you seriously think that The Cadets (or any other corps) "need more stuff" to be competitive, you are sadly mistaken. The Cadets have been competitive for what...ever since the formation of DCI? Before that? The competitiveness of the corps has to do with the work ethic of the kids, so don't insult the kids who sweat their ##### off to make some ridiculous point about being anti-electronics/narration/clowns/whatever.

Well thanks for quoting my post, so that even after it gets deleted my words live on. I really had no idea all this hullaballoo had exploded over this post. It's...quite amusing to say the least. Suffice it to say that I didn't make a personal attack on this Jason fellow, I merely pointed out that his grammar, syntax and punctuation were all awful. For those of you who would argue that we should leave him alone and rather discuss the points he's making...to be honest, I can't read those posts, so I don't know what points he's making. It would be like trying to have a conversation with a Swahili-speaking native, sans the interpreter. Please...please...let good English count for SOMETHING.

"To avoid this particular can or worms, the proposal specifically states that pre-recorded sounds or sounds sequenced from other sources such as voices, wind and percussion instruments would not be allowed. That would prevent a corps from creating an entire vocal choir out of a synthesized patch and would further negate the replication of an artificial brass choir or percussion ensemble to augment the corps members on the field. It would also address the concerns of a recording industry that has been increasingly more vocal about the use of sounds that might be copyrighted, including samples from other artists’ works. In addition, woodwind and string instruments that are currently not legal would not be made legal under this proposal." I'm sorry but this is a little confusing to me. Does this mean that any keybords, synths, or electronic instrument that create sound through use of samples of the actual instruments they're modeling are going to be illegal? How does that affect the use of FM, additive, subtractive, wavetable, or physical modeling synths? Are corps going to be allowed to edit and create their own patches? I get the impression from the article that the BoD is focusing mainly on the use of electronic instruments to play pre-sampled sound effects or to mimic pre-existing acoustic instruments (although not necessarily the ones already in use on the field). I really hope that's not the limit of their thought about electronic instruments, because they're capable of so much more.

Hahahahaha, good idea. The only problem is that most people on dcp have learned not to argue with me and seem to just ignore me because I always win. Oh well.

I'm not talking specifically about Daft Punk. If you're just wasting time on DCP right now take a listen to that link I provided above...it includes a wide variety of music that would work well for the type of show I'm proposing. Frank Stallone's "Far From Done" would be amazing...imagine the mellos on the arpeggiator parts!! It would really provide from some great technical showcasing AND some great, in-your-face ensemble moments. Additionally, a lot of french house music such as Daft Punk and Justice and the music that they derived their influence (and samples) from have SICK basslines. Talk about one of the greatest contra books ever. Also keep in mind that current french house groups like Daft Punk and Justice employ a LOT of samples and it's very worthwhile to look back to the original context and see what they took, and what was left out. The reason why I'd pick the Cavaliers to design and perform such a show is because, at least in my mind, it seems a concept that would play out very similar to the Frameworks/Spin Cycle era of show design. It's not so much how the parts stand on their own, but more about how they're put together that makes this type of music interesting. And the great thing about, say, Daft Punk, is that if you took just their Discovery album you'd find a rich and varying body of material to begin working with...everything from rhythmic complexity, harmonic warmth, catchy melodies, etc. A show of this nature would also necessarily require a lot of dance, a lot of fast movement/drill evolution, and superb integration of the guard into the mix. I think it's definitely possible, but it would also require that the design team do a lot of research into this style and era or music (and its historical predecessors) to being to understand how to bring it together. Personally, I think that such a show, if put together by a top-notch design team, would blow people away.