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Thanks so much guys. Really appreciate it.

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Anyone know of an online retailer that sells those little kits of corks and pads? Or a retailer in the NYC area that sells them? Thanks, stein

The Royaleers was that all girl corps and they were pretty dern good as I recall ! :)

I'm also interested in this issue. I think the Japanese just "jerry gigged" the lead pipe on a conventional euph, which is a great idea. I'm mean think about it, it's just a bend, a re soldered joint, with a brace. This is just my assertion. I recall seeing the all girl corps (sorry can't recall the name) with the shoulder euphs at Wildwood many years ago. Also, as I stated in an earlier post, The Bronx Kingsmen had them, WR's as I recall. If someone from Japan could enlighten us it would be appreciated. Mean while, I have a 2 valve euph that I may try to re do the lead pipe. It should be noted that before the contra's came on the seen, it was the, what we now call a "baritone", played the lower register assigments, peddle tones and all. Interesting thread. stein

Dear friends. It is my regettabile task to inform you that Mark Teofilo has died. Mark passed as the result of an apparent heart attack, Saturday, December 17 at Flushing Hospital in Queens, NY. Mark was a snare drummer in the Emerald Cadets of Connecticut and also was a member of the remarkable Bayonne Bridgemen snare lines of the early eighty's This is crushing news for everyone that knew him. He was a kind and gentle soul and a very talanted percussionist and teacher. May God bless him and keep him. Rest in peace Mark... you will be missed. stein

The BRONX KINGSMEN (1966, 67) had a complete set of Whaley Royce brass instruments and had several shoulder carried euphs. There are pictures of them playing these horns. This was a great idea in my opinion. The way the weight of the instrument is placed on the shoulder letting the "body ridged" handle the load, rather than the most unnatural, conventional, forward playing position. Especially when you have a very young, group of performers. Which I have... The weight of instruments, brass and percussion is a constant issue for my little guys. The weight issue is made most evident when you consider that marching band euphs are "chest held" (which I hope I never see in drum corps,) but none the less is a practical idea. I imagine this can be done with today's euphs by reconfiguring the lead pipe? Could it be that simple ? hmmmmmm

Anyone have a online site I can get a mouth piece puller? Thanks in advance. stein

Ray you may see this twice. Thanks for that thorough responce, very much appreciated! Where do you purchase your Sta - brite solder please ?

I have some older brass horns that have some minor brakage. Spit keys fell off and some pipe seperation. My question is: can one use a soldering iron and a standard " resin core " solder for these repairs ? I am aware that silver solder is supposed to be utilized in these instances, but I understand it is VERY EXPENSIVE. The soldering proceedure would be to heat both pieces and drop the solder on the brake, then hold till it cools. Is this correct? Any help wouldd be appreciated.

Thanks everyone for the ideas and suggestions. Sounds like the "puller" is the way to go. Just wondering if the puller works with the plastic KELLY'S ? Again any data would be much appreciated.

I have a beginners group and I have found myself constantly dealing with stuck mouth pieces. I don't have the machine that removes them. Any ideas on how to remove stuck pieces? I find the "kelly's" (the kids like them)get stuck frequently (as well as the Bach's)and removing them might be a different issue. I've emailed the Kelly company, but they never responded. Any help would be appreciated. AND YES, I have reminded the kids NOT TO "BOP", but to twist in the mouth pieces. Thanks in advance. stein

Thanks very much Mike. I really appreciate you taking the time. This was quite helpful. stein

I agree with many of the reasons given here and would add this: The massive cost for purchasing pit instruments and the equipment needed to transport it, made many directors throw up their hands and close their doors. The proliferation of the grounded, front group, musical instruments, ALONG with the afore reasons mentioned here, factor into the decline of drum corps. The unit corps who could handle this expense, made it cost prohibitive for most others and the times of these two occurrences,(pit equip and corps decline) line up perfectly. Further, this dynamic created an elitist group. I have a tough time coming to grips with the G7, BUT LETS FACE IT, there are only a small group of drum corps that will EVER win DCI. Render unto DCI what is DCI's, but LETS REBUILD LOCAL AND REGIONAL DRUM CORPS. stein

The students are ages 7 through 11 years of age. They are performing in door and statioary....for now.

I have a drumline of young,beginners and need some suggestions on what to purchase for snares and multi toms. Also pricing if you would. Thanks in advance.

Ray Cabs have a lot of great stories , but you'll never see them on here. Like most corps, they have an "internet rule" that they are very serious about. As far as a "corps hangout" they have their own bar and hall which I suggest everyone in drum corps visit at least once.

HAAAAAA The RUNWAY, what a great dump! Named for the runway that CHARLES LINDBERG took off from on his historic flight to Paris. Sunrisers actually did drill on one of those runways at Mitchell field. The old timers HATED us. One time, agitated by our rowdiness,one of them said to Bubba: YOU LOOK LIKE FATTY ARBUCKLE YA HUMP" Jokes all season about that. It was good while it lasted , good until Jimmy broke all the windowws in the autobody shop next door with rocks one night. Some of the color guard girls went there after that and the bartender started throwing glasses at them. We never went back. :) One of many stories about a corps hangout. stein

The dot IS the form. The transitions are MOVING FORMS. This is true in any well constructed drill program. The example you have chosen looks like a program that had not matured as yet. Some of the readers of this post may remember the days before the use of CENTER X, YARDLINES AND HASH MARK REFERENCES,when forms had to be constructed in a BLANK SPACE saving the "50 yardline". CONSTRUCTION OF FORM was a very different skill (dress, guide, cover) for performers and drill techs. FORM and the construction of it, was priority. THIS WAS A TIME CONSUMING PROCESS and if you may remember there were less forms/pictures in these programs. Today, with the "DOT LITERAL" drill programs, we see MANY MORE forms/pictures, MOVING AND STATIONARY. It is a more LEARNER/TEACHER FREINDLY circumstance. So DOT ACHIEVEMENT is FORM ACHIEVEMENT. stein

OLPH Ridgemen When we were kids, OWLS HEAD PARK on 67St and 6 Ave. During the day we would hitch hike to RIIS PARK BEACH spent the day, then hitched back to Brooklyn and went practice at night. Today, it's KETTLE BLACK 87St. and 3 Ave. and Jimmy Steiny's on Hyatt St. Staten Island. We're all still friends and still hangin and playing and you can be our friend too, as long as your not a pain in the ###. stein

I'm on a roll here.... The 507 HORNETS although an excellent drum corps, had a name that possibly would not work today. They beat BLUE ROCK once and I believe they became the CROSSMEN in a merger.

OLPH RIDGEMEN had/HAS a "feeder" corps called the MIDGETS and were very sucessful competitors in the local "stand still" circuits in and around NYC in the 50's and 60's.

The "Spear Heads" from Brooklyn NY. Some really good talent came from that corps. Wouldn't work today though. The "Suburbanette's" from Nashua NH. Great guard, auful name. "Vacationland Sweethearts". No disrespect, but ooooh man. The "Coppertones"... again, no disrepect. I know some of these guys. There's more....