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roosevelt

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    a lot of them
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  1. Yeah, but it doesn't mean that those rookies are going to come back. The rookies that loved the brass staff that was let go, may not come back. The rookies that didn't like the old brass staff, may be jaded about the whole SCV organization and how things were handled and they too may not come back. With lots of staff turnover (which SCV has been the model of), means that you are probably not going to have good retention and therefore, will be young. Listen, I am not saying SCV is going to finish 8th. Not at all actually. However, if they do I wouldn't be surprised because they, as a corps, have been trending downward. Sure, they hired some new (and in my opinion, better) staff. That does not mean that all is fixed and even if it does, it does not at all mean that all will be fixed right away. Saying that SCV is going to automatically be in the hunt for a medal and especially a championship NEXT year is putting unfair expectations on the members and the staff. Building that in this activity takes time. Look how long it took for Crown to build up to that level and even then they have only medaled once. Having the reaction of "Really? SCV in eighth? ok, dude" makes it sound like 8th is so far out of the question that the poster who predicted them there is WAY off base. It also implies that SCV is bound for much much higher than 8th. I think that is both unrealistic and unfair fo 2012. Maybe they will be in the hunt in 2013. Certainly they should be in 2014 if the staff stays intact. Could you imagine what it would be like if a championship corps fell all the way to 8th or ninth the next year? What if someone would have predicted that on here? They would have been ripped to shreds, right?... Didn't a recent championship drum corps fall all the way from 1st to 9th in one year? Oh yeah, they did, and a majority of this "dream team design" staff were the ones responsible for both the first, and the eighth place finish. So, those are just a few reasons why I say that they could finish in 8th and I wouldn't be surprised. I think they will finish a little higher (5th or 6th maybe?), but if they finish lower I would not be surprised. Anyways, what I meant by this all was: Give it time.
  2. Doesn't sound that far off to me. What makes you think they are going to be so much higher?
  3. I agree with this 100%. I would say though that Gaines put the horns in plenty of tough spots to sounds great as well though.
  4. So, Richard Hinshaw must look like Michael Gaines in order for it to be The Cavaliers?
  5. I was just going to post the same thing. I think Gaines is great. Certainly one of the best ever, but I have felt like it has been visual first at The Cavaliers for quite some time now. I am eager to see what they look and sound like with a different drill writer. Richard Hinshaw is pretty different than Gaines, but the guys knows how to write drill and he stages well. This could end up being a great breath of fresh air for the green team.
  6. So, Mike McIntosh would leave The Cavaliers, who just won drums to go to Crown? Yeah I don't think so. As someone else posted earlier, it will end up being Hannum who takes over.
  7. This is the only things I really disagree with in your post. To my ears, they sounded rough pretty often. Not all the time, but often. They did get to a point later on in the year where they did not sound rough nearly as much, but it they never really got clean either. I have heard groups that were not very loud that played the precision game and it worked just fine. BUT the problem is, when you take the emotion out of the program (i.e. the effect) everything becomes about the ensemble which is all well and good until you have ensemble issues. If / when you do, you end up getting slaughtered by the judges and you get a lot less leeway from the fans. Anyways, what is done is done and the new folks should do just fine.
  8. You are correct. It is my understanding that Dave McKinnon and some others are staying on with the Bluecoats while George Wozniak and some others are headed to SCV.
  9. Not really, no. However, if there was one going and people were saying that they were getting a bad rap I would certainly argue the contrary.
  10. Ok. Now we are talking. I agree, Madison's drumlin this year is definitely worth talking about as well. To me, they were VERY fortunate to finish where they did in drums. There were many drumlins that finished below them (even though they finished 14th) that should have beaten them. Lots of similarities there.
  11. Hold on there for a second. To suggest that Send in the Clowns could never sound bad no matter what is a bit unrealistic. SCV is without a doubt my favorite corps, so don't misconstrue my statements for disdain for the organization one bit. Nothing could be further from the truth. As a person who has adored the organization (and their corps song) for decades, I was offended by what I heard.
  12. You are right. I do take it seriously. I have a lot of respect for The Vanguard. I do not blame the kids and I do think they made a great hire with the Bluecoats brass staff coming over. I did not agree with the hiring of the old Cavaliers brass staff when it was first announced and voiced those concerns on here last year and those concerns came into fruition worse than I could have imagined. So yes, I did / do take it seriously. The members are not, but the staff certainly are. By drum corps standards, they were very well payed professionals. I do not blame the members. Not one bit. They played the way that they were taught / told to play. I would not fault them unless they blatantly had a disregard for their instructors or the music in front of them. I do not believe that was the case with them this year. Every time I saw them in the lot, the members seamed very focused and attentive. So, I am not blaming them one bit. Yes. Absolutely.. but not all. Ok. It's a matter of perspective I guess. If we are comparing 2011 SCV to all brass sounds on the planet, then yes, they were far from horrible. If we are comparing them to all drum corps this last season, that is debatable. If we are comparing them to past SCV lines, I think it is pretty clear and many other alumni would agree.
  13. There are penny of adjectives (both good and bad) to describe those groups you mentioned, but that is not what this topic is about. It is about SCV's horn line. It is my opinion that there were bad. Some disagree. That is ok. I will say that I had a discussion with Jeff Fiedler a years ago about staff consistency and he talked about how important it was, but he choose to pull the trigger on this staff after just one year...That should say something about how the organization felt about their productivity.
  14. Bachelors in Music Education, Masters in performance, and a former DCI judge. Not the most qualified out there by any stretch of the imagination, but certainly not the least either.
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